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I have searched around and see\ topics going back to 2019, 2017, and beyond, but I see no recent answer to whether is is now possible to easily move messages, in bulk, from main into a subgroup? Here is an example previous question:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/23500

Where are we in 2022? My need here is to convert my main group completely into a subgroup for more consistent management, keeping the main as just a membership umbrella for different subgroups. My main is already functioning as a subgroup, where only a subset of membership posts/receives, but I have to manually control individual post/receive attributes to accomplish this. I have proper subgroups for other subsets, but I did not expect this issue when first setting up the initial group. I don't want to lose all the history if I move all the relevant members to a new subgroup and so I want to move all the messages. Any hope? Thanks.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 09:52 PM, Lawrence Byrd wrote:

I have searched around and see\ topics going back to 2019, 2017, and beyond, but I see no recent answer to whether is is now possible to easily move messages, in bulk, from main into a subgroup? Here is an example previous question:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/23500

Where are we in 2022?

This feature remains unavailable.

Regards,
Bruce

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I used Lena’s script recently to move subgroup messages into a parent group. I assume it would work the other way around. But you’re not technically “moving” them. They’re being re-posted, so you lose the original date stamp and member ID. This info is added into the message content, though. If you can live with that caveat it does work. It will also take quite a while if you have a large number of messages due to throttling by Groups.IO system on rate of messages being posted by one account.?

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 08:52 PM, Lawrence Byrd wrote:

possible to easily move messages, in bulk, from main into a subgroup

I think that can only be done if the group you are moving from is a 'stand alone' group.? See ? You might contact support with details of your specific situation for verification.

Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.

Thank you Bruce, Bryan and Duane.

I will search for Lena's script and ponder this. Obviously losing the poster and date message context is a loss, so I will have to balance this against the pain of managing main as a faked-subgroup.

I remain surprised that there aren't fully working export/import tools for managing messages with meta-data, given the number of different customers managing so many groups - surely this must come up a lot.

Thanks again

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 03:49 PM, Lawrence Byrd wrote:

I will search for Lena's script and ponder this. Obviously losing the poster and date message context is a loss, so I will have to balance this against the pain of managing main as a faked-subgroup.

You can find info on Lena's Perl script at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251?

I remain surprised that there aren't fully working export/import tools for managing messages with meta-data, given the number of different customers managing so many groups - surely this must come up a lot.

Yes, it does. However...

There is potential for misuse of such tools to circumvent groups.io's pricing structure. Picture a scenario we all collaborated to buy an Enterprise group (with its own domain) and house everyone's groups as unlimited subgroups of that. The ability to move messages between groups/subgroups would only facilitate this kind of abuse.

There's also the potential for breach of trust. Imagine posting something to what you thought was a private group (Alcoholics Anonymous or whatever) only to have someone later move all your messages to a different one that was public.

I can't speak for Mr Fletcher; but if it was me, I would be very hesitant to go there.

Regards,
Bruce

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On 03/06/2022 15:29, Bruce Bowman wrote:

There is potential for misuse of such tools to circumvent groups.io's pricing structure. Picture a scenario we all collaborated to buy an Enterprise group (with its own domain) and house everyone's groups as unlimited subgroups of that. The ability to move messages between groups/subgroups would only facilitate this kind of abuse.

I have three thoughts:

1) As far as I know, GIO doesn't permit subgroups to have subgroups, so that scenario won't work to emulate groups with subgroups.
2) There really should be an API for this, rather than hacking the mail protocol. An API could, for example, restrict the copy destination to a group and its subgroups.
3) Ugh, perl ;) my eyes!

Best,

Glenn

I am also in exactly this circumstance.? I had hoped to import my backed up messages intact into the new sub-group.? No such luck out of the box