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Lisa
 


Question, if someone that I made has Owner on my Ads List, removed herself off does that mean, I lose my Group.? I am not mad at her, I was just curious.? Thanks Everyone!

Lisa
 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:54 PM, Lisa wrote:
Question, if someone that I made has Owner on my Ads List, removed herself off does that mean, I lose my Group.? I am not mad at her, I was just curious.? Thanks Everyone!
As long as there is one owner (you, I assume), your group is safe. I understand that Groups.io won't let the last owner leave.

Frances
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Lisa
 

Frances,
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somehow, it was removed when she left.? She didn't Remove It!
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Hugz, Lis
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In a message dated 12/27/2020 12:15:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, frances@... writes:
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On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:54 PM, Lisa wrote:
Question, if someone that I made has Owner on my Ads List, removed herself off does that mean, I lose my Group.? I am not mad at her, I was just curious.? Thanks Everyone!
As long as there is one owner (you, I assume), your group is safe. I understand that Groups.io won't let the last owner leave.

Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:36 AM, Lisa wrote:
somehow, it was removed when she left.? She didn't Remove It!
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Do you mean she was removed from the group? Perhaps by marking a message as spam?

Please see?/helpcenter/faq/1/group-member-faq/q-i-got-a-message-that-i

Frances
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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:36 AM, Lisa wrote:
somehow, it was removed when she left.? She didn't Remove It!
Lisa -- Any Owner can delete a group; but to do so, you have to click the Delete Group button at the bottom of the Settings page, followed by typing "I understand" in the confirmation dialog. This sequence of events is unlikely to happen by accident.
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Go to the group's home page (htttps://groups.io/g/GROUPNAME). If the home page is still there, the group still exists.

If you've lost your administrative functions, it's probably because you aren't logged in...or maybe you are logged in, but with the wrong email address.?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/8512?

Regards,
Bruce
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Bruce,

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> Lisa -- Any Owner can delete a group

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If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.

Just a random set of thoughts.

Ken S.

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:
If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.
Ken -- You could propose this as a #suggestion in the beta group, but please carefully consider all the "what if" scenarios first. For example, one Owner could also downgrade (not delete) all the other Owners and then delete the group. So to implement something like this, you would also have to remove the co-Owner downgrade privilege.

And then, "what if" one of the Owners dies, leaving his ownership behind? You can never remove his subscription, downgrade him, or delete the group, no matter what?

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.
The last remaining Owner is never removed for a spam report.
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Regards,
Bruce
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Hi Bruce,

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Yes, they do bring up "what if" issues, but those issues are issues today.

Our group has four co-owners who come together to agree on all of our owner decisions. That same formula or a majority formula could be automatically implemented. I am part of a small group and would rely on your knowledge of the complexities of doing this on a global level in forwarding this as a suggestion.

Ken

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¡°If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.¡± ¡ª Winston Churchill

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMF] #owner

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:

If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.

Ken -- You could propose this as a #suggestion in the beta group, but please carefully consider all the "what if" scenarios first. For example, one Owner could also downgrade (not delete) all the other Owners and then delete the group. So to implement something like this, you would also have to remove the co-Owner downgrade privilege.

And then, "what if" one of the Owners dies, leaving his ownership behind? You can never remove his subscription, downgrade him, or delete the group, no matter what?

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.

The last remaining Owner is never removed for a spam report.
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Regards,
Bruce

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We had a case where one of our three owners had to be removed for the good of our mission and the survival of the group.
He literally went off the rails, interrogating new applicants as if they were potential foreign spies.
When we quizzed him about why, he shouted at us in 64 point type with a vocabulary I haven't heard since the iceman delivered a block to my Grandma.
He truly went nuts, continuing to? rant and rave even though we were not responding.

If we had to get his approval to delete/demote him we could not possibly have gotten it.

If you wish to cause a catastrophe, require simultaneous approval of all owners.? Otherwise, forget it because it will become an obstacle when you least need a boulder in your way.

Bob

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