On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 09:32 AM, ro-esp wrote:

where you can read "select the checkbox in the row of the member you want to send the message to".

So how do you send one to the entire group?

Ronaldo -- By checking the box at upper left, you can select every member on that page. If you also use infinite scroll,?in principle?you should be able to select everyone in in the group in this manner and post a private message to each one using the +owner address.?

I admit that I have not actually tested this. If you do, please report back on how it went.

If the message does not need to be private (and since you're sending it to everyone, why should it be?), just select New Topic from the left-side menu bar and select the +owner address in the "From:" menu at the top of the message composition page.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

If the message does not need to be private (and since you're sending it to everyone, why should it be?), just select New Topic from the left-side menu bar and select the +owner address in the "From:" menu at the top of the message composition page.

I just tested it again, but more thoroughly.
It works fine when you are on the group site and replying to just one person.?
You can click on Reply to a message in the group homepage, select your owner email address and select Private (bottom right).
(Note: your group has to allow other reply options - make sure "Remove Other Reply Options
However if you don't select Private, the email is displayed as coming from your main email address. You can't send to the whole group from the owner email address, at least this way. Wish it could. It looks like it could!
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Frances:

However if you don't select Private, the email is displayed as coming from
your main email address. You can't send to the whole group from the owner
email address, at least this way. Wish it could. It looks like it could!

I had never noticed this problem. I have just run a test and the message sent to the group from the owner address actually displays my personal address.
Sorry, indeed.

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Bruce (and Ronaldo),

Ronaldo -- By checking the box at upper left, you can select every member on that page. If you also use infinite scroll,?in principle?you should be able to select everyone in in the group in this manner and post a private message to each one using the +owner address.
I admit that I have not actually tested this. If you do, please report back on how it went.

I also don't know if/how infinite screwall would work in this scenario as I detest using it anywhere not just here, but what does work impeccably is a URL hack:

1. Go to the members admin page.
2. The URL will display as /g/.../members
3. Click on one of the sorting links, like DisplayName, to force the page to display the code parameter list in the URL.
4. The URL will now look like /g/.../members?p=fullname,members,,20,1,0,0
5. Notice the 20 in the parameter list, it will be there if you haven't touched your default account settings, otherwise it will be the value you have selected, mine is 100 for example.
6. Edit the URL, change that value to your group member count +1 at the minimum, or round up, and press Enter.
7. The whole member list is now presented at once, no need for pressing PageDown/End/mouseclicks to get that -OneOfTheWorstUIdesignIdeas- to get them all; and as long as you don't change from that Members setting (by selecting Mods, Bouncing, etc), you can do anything the Actions allow, including sending messages, and when you are back, the custom value you used remains, so it's very useful when you're doing things en masse.

And the unavoidable disclaimer: It works great for the up to the 5K members one of my groups has, and although I can change it to 10000 for example and the page renders fine, I haven't tried it actually using it with a larger member number group, so if anyone reading this has a very large group, it's a good time to test this and let us know.

I had started a wiki on using this hack to make member admin stuff easier, one of these days I need to finish it up...

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/15356

Cheers,
Christos

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On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 02:20 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:

although I can change it to 10000 for example and the page renders fine, I haven't tried it actually using it with a larger member number group

I'd be interested in whether that works as well.? I know on the "Find or Create a Group" page that using 10000 as the parameter for the starting place gives blank results.

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 07:47 AM, Duane wrote:

I know on the "Find or Create a Group" page that using 10000 as the parameter for the starting place gives blank results.

Duane,

It works over here, eventually; after a ~45 second or so delay on Firefox or Chrome; give it some time, lol.

Cheers,
Christos

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 03:13 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:

It works over here, eventually;

Hmmm, nothing here after a full 5 minutes.? Using /search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,10000,0? Anything that keeps it from going over 10k works fine.? Not that I'll probably ever use it.

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Thank you! Quite helpful, but... The first try went well, setting it to 60. It keeps the 60 when coming back. However, it seems stuck with that number. I want to change to 300, but it doesn't keep 300. When I go back to the page, it is stuck at 60. I cleared browser cache and cookies to no avail. Any suggestion on how to change it permanently to a different number?

Regards,
Wolfram

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Wolfram Schneider wrote:

It keeps the 60 when coming back. However, it seems stuck with that number. I want to change to 300, but it doesn't keep 300. When I go back to the page, it is stuck at 60. I cleared browser cache and cookies to no avail.

Are you using a browser bookmark? If so, it will contain the original query string.

Any suggestion on how to change it permanently to a different number?

If that's what you're doing, edit the existing bookmark.
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Wolfram,

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Thank you! Quite helpful, but... The first try went well, setting it to 60. It keeps the 60 when coming back. However, it seems stuck with that number. I want to change to 300, but it doesn't keep 300. When I go back to the page, it is stuck at 60. I cleared browser cache and cookies to no avail. Any suggestion on how to change it permanently to a different number?
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What Bruce said; also, keep in mind that GIO has the ability to set (and remember) the default rows-per-page value to up to 100 rows per page (Main GIO Account Settings -> Prefs).? So you can go there and set it to 100 and it will remember that regardless, that's what I've personally done so at the very minimum I can have 5 pages worth of the default 20 rows in a single page.? But anything else above that, you'll have to manually adjust it on the URL when you go to the member admin list screen.

Also, depending on what you are doing within the member list screen, sometimes you have to use the Back browser arrow (with a browser F5 / Ctrl+F5 refresh afterwards) after applying the changes otherwise it will reset it to your default.

Cheers,
Christos