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Directory not showing all members


 

The Member Directory doesn't show all the members, but only for the last 15 members, including my Admin Test account. The number at the top left shows the correct number of members, but the navigation menu (lower right) shows only 15.

Bug?

Emacs!

Emacs!


 

Directory vs the Members List
There are two places with group member names:
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one that has all members (the Members List in the Admin area) and
the Directory. However, not all members are in the Directory - you can opt out.
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The Directory is an index of member profiles.
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A Subscriber's profile will be visible in the Directory only if:
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-- (s)he creates a Profile and chooses to share it (Subscription->Group Profile->Edit Group Profile->Profile Privacy*), and,
-- group settings under Privacy->Member Directory is set to Subscribers, OR
-- the person viewing the Directory has Owner/Moderator privileges.?
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The content of a user's profile can be anything they choose to put in it. Group Owners and Moderators cannot edit user profiles.
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The Members List is an index of subscriptions.?
Its visibility is set by Admin->Settings->Privacy->Members Visible.?
Content is restricted by the system to designated fields (email address, display name, join date, mail delivery, etc) that are necessary to perform system functions.?
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For privacy reasons, the members list will usually be visible only to Owners and Moderators, who can also "click through" each member record to send +owner messages, view activity, save notes about this subscription, or generally manage subscription settings.?
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If you as an Owner want Subscribers to be able to "see" every other Subscriber in the group without forcing everyone to jump through the profile hoop, you must make the Members List visible. Doing so will not give Subscribers access to the underlying information, however -- only the "stuff" that appears in the main index (Display Name, Message Delivery, Email Address, and Join Date).
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*Account and group profiles may also be edited via Account->Identity

From the GMF wiki

Frances
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I'm still not understanding this...

As an owner, I can see everyone's profile. I added myself as a member and I can't see more than a page of members (even though at the top left it says, "Showing 26 of 115 Members."

Question: Is it true that owners and moderator can see EVERY member's profile, but members can ONLY see Profiles set for "Other members of your group"?


On Friday 11/8/2019, [Frances] said:
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Directory vs the Members List
There are two places with group member names:
?
one that has all members (the Members List in the Admin area) and
the Directory. However, not all members are in the Directory - you can opt out.
?
The Directory is an index of member profiles.
?
A Subscriber's profile will be visible in the Directory only if:
?
-- (s)he creates a Profile and chooses to share it (Subscription->Group Profile->Edit Group Profile->Profile Privacy*), and,
-- group settings under Privacy->Member Directory is set to Subscribers, OR
-- the person viewing the Directory has Owner/Moderator privileges.
?
The content of a user's profile can be anything they choose to put in it. Group Owners and Moderators cannot edit user profiles.
?
The Members List is an index of subscriptions.
Its visibility is set by Admin->Settings->Privacy->Members Visible.
Content is restricted by the system to designated fields (email address, display name, join date, mail delivery, etc) that are necessary to perform system functions.
?
For privacy reasons, the members list will usually be visible only to Owners and Moderators, who can also "click through" each member record to send +owner messages, view activity, save notes about this subscription, or generally manage subscription settings.
?
If you as an Owner want Subscribers to be able to "see" every other Subscriber in the group without forcing everyone to jump through the profile hoop, you must make the Members List visible. Doing so will not give Subscribers access to the underlying information, however -- only the "stuff" that appears in the main index (Display Name, Message Delivery, Email Address, and Join Date).
?
*Account and group profiles may also be edited via Account->Identity

From the GMF wiki

Frances
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FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups
GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers


 

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:15 PM, Steve Bass wrote:
(even though at the top left it says, "Showing 26 of 115 Members."

Question: Is it true that owners and moderator can see EVERY member's profile, but members can ONLY see Profiles set for "Other members of your group"?
Correct.? The 26 showing are those that have chosen to make their profile available.

Duane
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And even though it seems obvious, I want to be sure: If the other change it to "Other members of your group," they'll be seen be every member in the group, correct?

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 02:27 PM, Steve Bass wrote:
If the other change it to "Other members of your group," they'll be seen be every member in the group, correct?
Steve -- My attempt to be totally clear on this:

If a subscriber of your group goes to Subscription>Group Profile, creates a profile, and changes the Profile Privacy setting to either "Public" or "Other Members of your Group," then that subscriber's profile will be visible to others in the Directory.

Group Moderators and Owners can see profile information no matter what. This can lead to some confusion if they unknowingly refer regular Subscribers to the Directory for information that is not visible to them.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

Hi all,

It would be really nice to have the option as a list owner (of a restricted group) to decide that it be a premise of the group that all members be displayed in the member directory.

While I understand how particularly in a public group that it be a privacy option for members to choose whether their profile is displayed, it would be nice in groups like the one that I administer that you show yourself as present so that contributors can see who is receiving their contributions.

Perhaps this could be an option that only shows up to owner/moderators for restricted groups.

I am relatively new to the GIO community.... is this discussion forum effectively a feature request forum also or are there other avenues (emailing support@??, etc.)

Max


 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM, Max Edleson wrote:
It would be really nice to have the option as a list owner (of a restricted group) to decide that it be a premise of the group that all members be displayed in the member directory.
Max -- In groups.io, a subscriber owns his own Profile, and controls its visibility to non-Moderators/Owners.

If you want your subscribers to be able to see each other's information, see Admin>Settings>Privacy>Members Visible. Note that doing so will NOT allow mere subscribers to "click into" a member record or perform any admin functions.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Max Edleson wrote:
...it would be nice in groups like the one that I administer that you show yourself as present so that contributors can see who is receiving their contributions.
If you mean what I think you mean that won't and can't work. Show yourself as present means what exactly? A subscriber to that particular group? Logged in and watching? Just being a subscriber to any given group doesn't mean that you are reading everything that turns up. Some subscribers set their mail delivery to "No Mail". Does that mean that they read posts on the web UI as and when they are submitted, or does it mean that they only read things as and when the mood takes?

Just having every profile visible in the directory doesn't actually tell you who everyone is, if only because some people use Display Names that don't reveal their actual identity.

Next time you get a Read Receipt for an email you have sent have a look at what it says; It announces that the email has been displayed on the recipient's computer (or whatever) but it reminds you that they may not have read it.

Chris