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Greetings fellow YahooGroups refugees and supporters,?

While I am ready to transfer my YahooGroup archive of messages before it's too late, I do not yet want to invite my YahooGroup members to Groups.io until later, since I just precipitously moved the membership to GoogleGroups. I want them to stay on GoogleGroups for a month or so before doing the transfer to groups.io. Is there a successful way to move the archive and the list of members from YahooGroup to groups.io, but not to alert or welcome the members, not to activate the io.group until a later time, perhaps in a month or two? ?And at that later time, would I be able to send the welcome easily?

I hope that all makes sense, and welcome any suggestions.

Thanks in advance,
? Lisa

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:38 AM, <lisa.reiner@...> wrote:

While I am ready to transfer my YahooGroup archive of messages before it's too late, I do not yet want to invite my YahooGroup members to Groups.io until later, since I just precipitously moved the membership to GoogleGroups. I want them to stay on GoogleGroups for a month or so before doing the transfer to groups.io. Is there a successful way to move the archive and the list of members from YahooGroup to groups.io, but not to alert or welcome the members, not to activate the io.group until a later time, perhaps in a month or two? ?And at that later time, would I be able to send the welcome easily?

Lisa -- You asked this same question yesterday. I was hoping someone who actually had done this would chime in, but that hasn't happened. So I'll try to help as best I can.

The members are best transferred at the same time, or even ahead of time, so that "ownership" of all content is properly retained. Otherwise, ownership of every file and photo and message reverts to you, the group Owner, and you'll have to reassign everything you can after the members arrive later. And of course, if you do the transfer in stages, this means setting up two separate transfers, and waiting patiently in the transfer queue TWICE. You cannot have two transfers from the same Yahoo Group scheduled at the same time, so you'll have to set up the first one with the group content, wait for it to complete, delete it from your transfer list, and start over to bring over the members. Small wonder that virtually no one is exploring this option.

All that said, you can transfer everybody and simply not notify them. You will have to create a custom Welcome Notice and make it inactive. And there is a checkbox on the transfer edit page where you can disable the "you've been added" notification. If you do both -- and exercise some restraint and don't post anything to the group -- you can achieve the full transfer objective and simply spring a surprise on them later (in your case, in a "month or so").

You stated that all your members are on Google Groups now. Be advised there is no way to transfer Google Groups content to groups.io. The Google Groups transfer involves your members list only.?

I hope something in here helps.

Regards,
Bruce

Bruce,?
? ?I appreciate your detailed response. ?I definitely do not want to loose ownership of our prior content...

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:48 PM, <lisa.reiner@...> wrote:

If I elect to make the Welcome Notice?inactive, and also?disable the "you've been added" notification, the members will not have any inkling I made the switch, correct? ?I just don't want to confuse matters, now that we got them off YahooGroups.

Then, later, when I elect to proceed with using groups.io, how will I "activate" the group? ?Is there a way to send the Welcome Notice and the "you've been added" notification at that later time? ?Or is there another way?

If it were me, I'd disable the No Email option on the GIO (anyone with that setting will be changed to Special Notice.)? Then when I was ready, I'd send a Special Notice email to let everyone know.? You could include any additional information you want.

Is there an option for me to set up the transfer with the members and the archive content, and then just hold off on the step to Welcome/Notify the members, i.e. freeze the process after everything is exported form YahooGroups, but before the members are alerted? ?

No.

One more question: Before welcoming/notifying new members, can I edit/update some of their email addresses? ?As I went to transfer from YG to GoogleGroups, I came to know some people have new email addresses....

It might be easier for them to change their email address after they get to the group.? I believe you can change their email address for them on paid groups though.

Duane
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 01:48 PM, <lisa.reiner@...> wrote:

If I elect to make the Welcome Notice?inactive, and also?disable the "you've been added" notification, the members will not have any inkling I made the switch, correct? ?I just don't want to confuse matters, now that we got them off YahooGroups.

Lisa -- That is my understanding. Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, objects in mirror may be closer than they appear.

Then, later, when I elect to proceed with using groups.io, how will I "activate" the group?

Once a group is set up -- and already reviewed against the groups.io Terms of Service -- it is already "active."?

Once you complete the Easy Group Transfer and receive the Owner's completion notice, you can lock the group...you'll find a baby-blue button for that at the very bottom of the Settings page. This will keep anyone (including you) from accidentally posting something to the group and tipping people off until such time that you've finished up whatever it is you need to do over that "month or so" time period.

I do NOT recommend locking the group until the transfer is done. It's possible that the transfer agent will be able to complete the transfer anyway, but it could also mess things up royally.

?Is there a way to send the Welcome Notice and the "you've been added" notification at that later time? ?Or is there another way?

Yes and no.

You can?manually send any existing Member Notice by selecting a collection of people from your Member List (using the checkboxes) and choosing "Send Message" from the Actions pull-down menu at the bottom of the page. I'm pretty sure this works even if those people have "No Email" selected for message delivery.

You cannot, however, manually send the "you've been added" notification with the opt-out link. That notification is a system-generated, one-time deal.

Is there an option for me to set up the transfer with the members and the archive content, and then just hold off on the step to Welcome/Notify the members, i.e. freeze the process after everything is exported form YahooGroups, but before the members are alerted? ?

I believe I have already answered this...if there's something different here I'm not picking up on it.

One more question: Before welcoming/notifying new members, can I edit/update some of their email addresses? ?As I went to transfer from YG to GoogleGroups, I came to know some people have new email addresses....

Since you have a Premium group, you can do this...but I wouldn't recommend it. For one thing, it might generate a notification...and you've already said that you don't want them to be notified. It will also change their email address in any other group in groups.io that they may already be subscribed to, and you may end up with some very unhappy campers because of it.

It's my experience that helping people who haven't asked for my help is not very helpful. :-)

Bruce