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My newly created group is LRPPro (/g/LRPPro). I recently upgraded to Premium to be able to migrate LRPPro from Yahoo () to Groups.io.

I started the automated migration process, but this stalled at the point where you have to send an invitation to [email protected]. The process requires that this invitation be sent, you wait to receive it, then proceed. However, my Yahoo group no longer seems able to send invitations. I get the following error message:

??? Moderator can't invite or add new members

Apparently I cannot proceed with Group.io's migration process following this procedure. Please help me continue to proceed with this migration.

Thanks — Lyndon

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:51 PM, Nawdry wrote:

However, my Yahoo group no longer seems able to send invitations. I get the following error message:

??? Moderator can't invite or add new members

Apparently I cannot proceed with Group.io's migration process following this procedure. Please help me continue to proceed with this migration.

You may get your "power" back.? Yahoo has been doing many strange things recently.? One person has a suggestion that may possibly work, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/21985? If that doesn't work, you can see if another moderator on the YG can do it or upgrade your permissions so you can send invitations (and promote transfer to a moderator.)? The inviter/promoter doesn't need to be the same person doing the transfer.

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You may get your "power" back.? Yahoo has been doing many strange things recently.? One person has a suggestion that may possibly work, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/21985? If that doesn't work, you can see if another moderator on the YG can do it or upgrade your permissions so you can send invitations (and promote transfer to a moderator.)? The inviter/promoter doesn't need to be the same person doing the transfer.

Thanks for responding and trying to help. As a Moderator of my group, I have access to all the management function EXCEPT the critical one required by Groups.io for automated migration: The ability to Invite members (Groups.io requires an invitation be sent from the old Yahoo group to a specific Groups.io address). Only an Owner has that ability.

The cited link advises:

In the last two days, I experienced the same lack of access to my Yahoo group management functions that you describe. I resolved it accidentally by clicking to another Yahoo group I moderate and saw that I had access to management functions on that group. So I clicked back to the first group and my management functions reappeared.

I have tried the above suggestions every which way and backward, with no success.

Here's a summary of the basic issue: With Yahoo ID/Email Nawdry_bga@... I am recognized as a Moderator of the LRPPro Yahoo group, but not as Owner. The Owner is listed on the LRPPro site as Nawdry@.... I own that Yahoo ID/Email address. But when I access the site with that ID, I am not even recognized as a member, much less as Owner.

When I try to subscribe to the list, I get a message:

Your email address is not linked to a Yahoo ID. To join this group, you need to link your email address to a Yahoo account.

But it IS linked to a Yahoo account. I receive Email at that account, but somehow it is not recognized by Yahoo groups. I have gone through loop after loop after loop.

Just this morning I paid a $4.95 fee (plus tax) to get access to Yahoo's online tech support. I spent over an hour trying to get help, but they have no ability whatsoever to assist with Yahoo Groups, despite their promotional material claims. They are processing a return of my fee. More importantly, they have absolutely no phone number or other contact access to the central Yahoo administration and any tech support other than what they themselves provide. In other words, it seems Yahoo has closed any and all support for Yahoo Groups and any way to resolve this at the Yahoo Groups point. All of this is truly like a story by Kafka.

Is there absolutely no way Groups.io could help migrate my Yahoo group archives, photos, etc. to my Groups.io group without requiring the invitation and going through the automated process?

Lyndon

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 08:43 AM, Nawdry wrote:

Is there absolutely no way Groups.io could help migrate my Yahoo group archives, photos, etc. to my Groups.io group without requiring the invitation and going through the automated process?

Lyndon -- It's important to understand that the groups.io transfer agent cannot and will not "break into" Yahoo Groups and "steal" data off their servers. It is up to the group Owners to let the agent in.?If you're unable to invite new subscribers to your Yahoo Group, then I suspect you can't promote anyone to Moderator, either...both of which are necessary for the agent to gain full access to your group's data.

But if you have a lot of time on your hands, it's possible to migrate everything but the message archive yourself, using freely available tools. Please see the FAQ at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups, starting at #10. Meanwhile, Mark is offering refunds to those who paid for Premium but are unable to complete the process. See??for details.

Regards,
Bruce

On 2019-11-03 8:29, Bruce Bowman wrote:

If you're unable to invite new subscribers to your Yahoo Group, then I suspect you can't promote anyone to Moderator, either...both of which are necessary for the agent to gain full access to your group's data.

But if you have a lot of time on your hands, it's possible to migrate everything but the message archive yourself, using freely available tools. Please see the FAQ at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups, starting at #10. Meanwhile, Mark is offering refunds to those who paid for Premium but are unable to complete the process. See details.

Bruce: Thanks for your advice. The FAQ led me to PG Offline, which seems like a decent option.

Since it turns out we won't be able to use the Groups.io Transfer Agent to migrate from our Yahoo group, I can't see any benefit from having the one-year Premium level. However, a one-month Premium level would be extremely useful to directly add members. I'm trying to see if we change to just a one-month Premium level, and receive a $200 refund.

Lyndon