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Mick Anderson All Messages By This Member #18114 The list of members and their email addresses is only visible to Owners and Moderators for privacy reasons. However email addresses are visible to all members in messages. This is serious breach of privacy and could lead to legal action by a member. Mick
Don Grass All Messages By This Member #18115 开云体育 Personally, I don’t think people should join forums if they are worried about privacy. This is just me, but I think anonymity is what is wrong with social media. ? Don ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mick Anderson Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 8:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GMF] Members' Details ? The list of members and their email addresses is only visible to Owners and Moderators for privacy reasons. However email addresses are visible to all members in messages. This is serious breach of privacy and could lead to legal action by a member. ? Mick ?
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #18116 Mick, However email addresses are visible to all members in messages. Yes, to members receiving messages by email. On the web interface only the Display Name is shown (assuming the member has one). Sending outbound messages that do not include the sender's email address is something that was rather heavily discussed in the beta group a few years back. Search that group for the keyword "anonymous" and you'll likely find more discussion than you care to read. But before you do that, start with this more recent one (and maybe throw a Like on it, or a comment in support): This is serious breach of privacy and could lead to legal action by a member. Frankly, that's absurd. Without trying to be too pedantic about it, Groups.io is an email list service, and that's how email works. You send a message TO your correspondent's address, and your address is the FROM address of the message. That simple arrangement, modeled on postal mail, has been a part of the internet email standard as long as there has been a standard The member may as well attempt legal action on that basis against AOL, Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, their own ISP, and every other email service they've ever used. As a practical response to your members, you may recommend that if they are concerned about their privacy when using your group they should create an email address (with any one of the email service providers) which does not include any personal identification in the email address or its Display Name. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
Mick Anderson All Messages By This Member #18119 Shal, I personally am not concerned that my email address is available on the IO website. I also realise that when you send an ordinary email to anybody your address appears as "From", but that is a choice you make in using email. However IO is an International system and must comply with laws in other countries that it services. On the 25 May 2019 the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) came into effect in the EU. You must obtain a person's specific permission to make their details available on the Internet. Other companies, such as Yahoo, do conform by truncating members' email addresses. I intend to send out a Group email to seek all members' permission or delete their membership. I suggest that somehow all Groups must do that. Mick toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 10 Aug 2019, at 3:11 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Mick, However email addresses are visible to all members in messages. Yes, to members receiving messages by email. On the web interface only the Display Name is shown (assuming the member has one). Sending outbound messages that do not include the sender's email address is something that was rather heavily discussed in the beta group a few years back. Search that group for the keyword "anonymous" and you'll likely find more discussion than you care to read. But before you do that, start with this more recent one (and maybe throw a Like on it, or a comment in support): This is serious breach of privacy and could lead to legal action by a member. Frankly, that's absurd. Without trying to be too pedantic about it, Groups.io is an email list service, and that's how email works. You send a message TO your correspondent's address, and your address is the FROM address of the message. That simple arrangement, modeled on postal mail, has been a part of the internet email standard as long as there has been a standard The member may as well attempt legal action on that basis against AOL, Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, their own ISP, and every other email service they've ever used. As a practical response to your members, you may recommend that if they are concerned about their privacy when using your group they should create an email address (with any one of the email service providers) which does not include any personal identification in the email address or its Display Name. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
Duane All Messages By This Member #18121 On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 04:13 AM, Mick Anderson wrote: On the 25 May 2019 the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) came into effect in the EU. GDPR has been hashed and rehashed, both here and on the beta group.? Mark (with his legal team) has assured us that Groups.io is as compliant as it can be.? Honestly, it seems no one, not even those that wrote it, know exactly what GDPR requires.? Until a major legal case is completed, it will remain a guessing game. That said, and as Shal mentioned, this site is for Email Lists.? Kind of difficult to send emails without email addresses. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
Shal Farley Member Profile All Messages By This Member #18128 Mick, On the 25 May 2019 the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) came into effect in the EU. As Duane mentioned, Groups.io is aware of GDPR (the question was raised well before May) and has had legal review. Groups.io did modify its privacy policy to be in conformance. /static/privacy Other companies, such as Yahoo, do conform by truncating members' email addresses. If you mean Yahoo Groups, they too send the member's full email address in the outbound From field, but they do so in the Display Name portion of the field rather than the address portion (which they re-write for DMARC). In message bodies displayed in the group's web pages Groups.io has an option in the Privacy section of the Settings page to control whether they are masked (truncated) or not. If you are talking about somewhere else, please explain. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list

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