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On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 03:23 PM, Marcio wrote:

Therefore, I would like to ask, how can I create a test group?
I mean, it's too easy to create a group and name it "Test Group" but is it allowed and advisable for any person to do??

A test group doesn't use any more system resources than a subgroup, but it does lock in a group name, keeping it from being used by someone else. If you decide to create one, for ethical reasons I suggest you name your test group something that no one is likely to want to use.

My own test group is named "bowmanfamily." I created it in hopes that I could coerce my family members into using it for communications and chit-chat. When that fell through, it devolved into a test group -- for lack of a better purpose.

Also in case I don't want to create my own test group for some reason is there a way of joining a? group specifically for testing purposes?

Shal has a group called ShalsTest that several people use. All subscribers are Moderators with most privileges, including modifying group settings. However, this also means that notifications get sent to other subscribers, showing them what you're up to. I generally use my own test group anymore, mainly because I use it a lot, and don't want the associated notifications to become an annoyance.

Generally speaking, it's easy enough to do, but I don't think it's necessary that everyone do it.

Hope this helps,
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Bruce,

Having been a member of shalstest for a very long time now, I can say that traffic is, overall, quite minimal.??

For myself, I like having membership in a group where multiple testers, all of whom are a "of a serious and dedicated nature" are doing things that I can see when they're being done.? It teaches me certain things that I might never otherwise know.

There are pluses and minuses to having one's own private test group or asking to join existing multi-user ones.? Neither situation is ideal.? A good example of where one's own group would be less than idea would be playing with split and merge functions.? It's tedious to create topics lengthy enough to make it worthwhile, yet a number of these generally crop up on test groups as the result of other testing.? ?Everyone knows that "nothing is sacred" on these groups and, provided you're not interfering with what you know to be someone else's test(s) in progress, you can feel free to play with all the stale material to your heart's content.

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Brian,

When I first decided to create a group on groups.io in order to get rid of a group on yahoo, I simply created a private one and experimented with the things I knew I wanted to do─invite members, approve messages and so on.? Eventually I will simply delete the group when it has no further use (pretty well now!).? However reading messages to this group makes me realise there is a whole lot more we can do with groups here, so I read and learn.? For example I didn't know about Test Groups.? I still don't know what the difference is.

Peter

Having been a member of shalstest for a very long time now, I can say that traffic is, overall, quite minimal.??

For myself, I like having membership in a group where multiple testers, all of whom are a "of a serious and dedicated nature" are doing things that I can see when they're being done.? It teaches me certain things that I might never otherwise know.

There are pluses and minuses to having one's own private test group or asking to join existing multi-user ones.? Neither situation is ideal.? A good example of where one's own group would be less than idea would be playing with split and merge functions.? It's tedious to create topics lengthy enough to make it worthwhile, yet a number of these generally crop up on test groups as the result of other testing.? ?Everyone knows that "nothing is sacred" on these groups and, provided you're not interfering with what you know to be someone else's test(s) in progress, you can feel free to play with all the stale material to your heart's content.

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Peter,

For example I didn't know about Test Groups. I still don't know what
the difference is.

The only difference is the intent of the users.

I created ShalsTest simply for my own edification. Same as you, I wanted a "playground" where I could try arbitrary things without affecting members of a "real" group.

I've accepted others into ShalsTest who share that common motive. Mostly for their convenience, but also because sometimes I learn from their experiments. As Brian said, no content there is "sacred". If an experiment destroys the content, or even the whole group, no real harm done. If necessary, I'll just create ShalsTest2.

Shal


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On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 09:04 AM, P H LLOYD wrote:

For example I didn't know about Test Groups.? I still don't know what the difference is.

The only difference is what you call it and what you use it for; a Test Group is simply a Group set up - almost certainly with only a handful of members - with the purpose of "playing" with Groups.io's capabilities to investigate how things work and sometimes don't. A group set up for test purposes has exactly the same functionality as a "working" group. It is somewhere its members can try things without disrupting a working group, usually so that whatever is learnt / discovered can be used for the better running of a proper group.

I hope that makes sense...

Chris

It does indeed, Chris.? Thank you.? That is exactly what I set up....

Peter

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 09:04 AM, P H LLOYD wrote:

For example I didn't know about Test Groups.? I still don't know what the difference is.

The only difference is what you call it and what you use it for; a Test Group is simply a Group set up - almost certainly with only a handful of members - with the purpose of "playing" with Groups.io's capabilities to investigate how things work and sometimes don't. A group set up for test purposes has exactly the same functionality as a "working" group. It is somewhere its members can try things without disrupting a working group, usually so that whatever is learnt / discovered can be used for the better running of a proper group.

I hope that makes sense...

Chris

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Shal,

Marcio,

Looking briefly in the group I saw what I'll call a Wordpress
integration, showing a few posts of a blog. I don't know where to look
to know how it's done so if I may ask, how it can be done?

It is an iframe element that I pasted into the Source Code view of the Description edit box. I think that iframe code was copied from somewhere on Wordpress, equivalent to Groups.io's Promote page, where they give you sample code to paste into other web pages. I'm a bit vague on this because I did it a long time ago, and a coworker of mine gave me the code (he admins the Wordpress blog).

In retrospect I'm a bit surprised that worked. I thought iframes were among the things that get stripped by the editor. But maybe not for Descriptions, or maybe not back when I did that.

Shal


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