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In Wiki under??Notice to member (from 22 March 2018)??RESUB LINK?is listed but the actual?link is not accessible.?
What is the actual link?
I presume that the group owner can send (and must send) this notice or is this notice sent automatically?


 

Don,

In Wiki under??Notice to member (from 22 March 2018)??RESUB LINK?is listed but the actual?link is not accessible.?
What is the actual link?

The actual link is auto-generated, unique to each case.
I presume that the group owner can send (and must send) this notice or is this notice sent automatically?

The notice is sent automatically to the user. The copy in the Wiki is just for your reference.

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Shal, thanks for your response.
The person "unsubbed" is very computer illiterate and I do mean that!
What does the "unsubbed" person have to do after they go to the automatically generated link?
Or,does the link automatically re subscribe the person?
This person lives close enough that I may have to visit them to provide assistance.
Don


 

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Many are computer illiterate and the directions to do things aren't clear enough for the average person to understand. I had one member go to vote in a poll and ended up removing themselves from the group.
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I think the directions need to be written so a first grader can understand them.
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From: Don Clark
Date: 10/09/18 16:16:21
Subject: Re: [GMF] Removed because of spam report
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Shal, thanks for your response.
The person "unsubbed" is very computer illiterate and I do mean that!
What does the "unsubbed" person have to do after they go to the automatically generated link?
Or,does the link automatically re subscribe the person?
This person lives close enough that I may have to visit them to provide assistance.
Don
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Don,


What does the "unsubbed" person have to do after they go to the automatically generated link?
Or,does the link automatically re subscribe the person?

I've not been through the process myself. I would have expected it to take the user to a page where they would confirm his/her desire to resume their subscription - click a Yes button or something. Except someone reported off-list that it merely brought her to the group's home page, none the wiser.

Shal



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What does the "unsubbed" person have to do after they go to the automatically generated link?
Or,does the link automatically re subscribe the person?

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I had this a couple of times in my group. Generally Yahoo mail addresses were concerned. The person just clicks the mail gio sends and is back in.

Victoria


 

Does this link also add them back to subgroups?


 

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Does this link also add them back to subgroups?

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Beth, I have no subgroups, so I cannot answer this with certainty, but I suppose the link refers to the group which the person is banned from.

Victoria

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On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 04:53 PM, Victoria wrote:
but I suppose the link refers to the group which the person is banned from.
Please choose your words more carefully. No - one is "banned" because they or their Mail Service Provider returned a Spam Report. They are Unsubscribed.

As banning a member is a different "group" function using the term in incorrect circumstances is likely to cause confusion rather than anything else.

Chris


 

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As banning a member is a different "group" function using the term in incorrect circumstances is likely to cause confusion rather than anything else.

Of course, Chris, but within the context and topic I think it was well understood.

Victoria

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On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 05:16 PM, Don Clark wrote:
What does the "unsubbed" person have to do after they go to the automatically generated link?
All you have to do is click on the link, and you are immediately resubscribed. You are NOT forced to also click on any confirmation buttons or anything like that.

I don't have any subgroups, but the question of how this works in that scenario intrigued me. So for the past hour or so I've been using Shalstest and one of its subgroups as a test platform. I sent a message to the subgroup and -- once it arrived in my inbox -- moved my own message to my spam folder. I was immediately unsubscribed from the subgroup, and groups.io sent me the canned notification email. Clicking on the "resume subscription" link in that email renewed my subscription to the subgroup, as expected.

At no point was I ever removed from the main group. However, I was mildly surprised to find that the link in the email did not take me to a subgroup page. Instead, I was shown the main group home page.

Having done that, I tried to do the same thing with the main group, but for some reason this time my ISP's FBL mechanism was not activated, and I was not unsubbed. What I *suspect* that would do is unsub you from the main group and all associated subgroups, as membership in the main group is a requirement for a subscription to any subgroup. I also suspect that the "resume subscription" link in the email would only renew your subscription to the main group, and any subgroup subscription(s) would have to be renewed manually afterward.

I would be interested to know if any others have experience that would confirm or refute my hypothesis.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce

P.S. These kinds of things have convinced me that subgroups are a very good way to complicate your life.
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Thanks for testing Bruce,
After we transfer our main membership next week I'll sure that I will be able to see if we have to manually add people back to subgroups because I know that no matter how many times we tell people not to mark as spam, they will.

I agree that subgroups are sometimes complicated, but if I didn't use them I would end up with more than 40 groups to maintain. This way I have 1 group with 39+ subgroups to maintain.? I' d like it even better if subgroups could have subgroups, and all of them could inherit properties from the parent.? Oh well, I'm in the minority usually anyway.
Thanks again
Beth