Attached Picture Not In Emailed Photos.
开云体育I have a member that ‘attached’ a picture to his email to the group, and his picture is not stored in Emailed Photos. This member has this same picture stored in their personal Photo Album, but it was uploaded on June 30, 2018. ?I asked if they ‘embedded’ the picture, and they said no. Any ideas what’s going on here? ? Don |
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I have a member that ‘attached’ a picture to his email to the group,Does the picture show in the group's Messages? As part of the message body or as an attachment? Same question for the message if you received it in individual email. There are several possibilities. Two of which involve the image being displayed as part of a formatted (HTML) message body. In the View source (aka Show Original) of the message these would be: <img src="http:... Or https:... These would be an image file fetched from a web site. The image file wasn't attached to the message, and would not appear in Emailed Photos. This form is often referred to as a "remote" image, and many email interfaces will defer loading them until you explicitly ask to show the image. <img src="data:... The image file is carried inline in the HTML of the message body. This is also technically not an attachment, but I think Groups.io ought to treat it as if it were. I asked if they ‘embedded’ the picture, and they said no.Well, members aren't always clear on what the terms mean, and the various email interfaces out there aren't often very clear on just how they will represent an image, whether placed by drag-n-drop, copy and paste, or with an Add Image dialog box can affect the representation, as can the source of the image (a file finder/explorer versus a web browser, for example). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Does the picture show in the group's Messages? As part of the message bodyor as an attachment? The picture does show in the groups message, and I think as an attachment. I copied the element using Google Chrome as the browser to inspect element. <div class="yahoo-compose-assist-image-card ymail-android-inline-img-container ymail-card"><img id="ymail_attachmentId39336" class="inline-image-global inlined-image-cid-ebeadf6f-56e4-46b6-a97d-aa550e904cb1 myimg-responsive" src="/g/foggers/attachment/19902/0" style="width:100%; max-width:800px;"><br></div> <img id="ymail_attachmentId39336" class="inline-image-global inlined-image-cid-ebeadf6f-56e4-46b6-a97d-aa550e904cb1 myimg-responsive" src="/g/foggers/attachment/19902/0" style="width:100%; max-width:800px;"> Same question for the message if you received it in individual email.I can't tell how the picture came through in my individual mail, as I can't find any command that will let me examine the email. Window 10 Outlook Don |
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Don, The picture does show in the groups message, and I think as an attachment. Here's an example with images sent as part of the message body, using the cid: scheme (image file attached to the message). Note that the images appear inline with the message text, and also in the Emailed Photos album. This is pretty much the "normal", or at least most common, embedded format: Here's an example with images sent as attached files. Notice that the images appear as thumbnails below the message body and you can click on them to see them full size (or depending on your browser settings, download them). These too appear in the Emailed Photos album: I copied the element using Google Chrome as the browser to inspect element. Yeah, that's not the same as looking at the message's View Source, from the More menu. What you're looking at there is the web page source, and for display in the group's pages Groups.io must change the reference scheme of the photo to point to the copy stored in the group's storage. This doesn't show how it was in the message as Groups.io received it. Even so, it says that Groups.io copied the image from the message and put it into storage separately from the message body. That leads me to expect that they would appear also in Emailed Photos, so I'm not sure what's going on. I can't tell how the picture came through in my individual mail, as I can't That's unfortunate. Though what we'd really need is a cc of the original post sent to an address where the view source could be inspected - rather than a copy returned from the group (and possibly modified by Groups.io on the way through). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
开云体育Shal, ? I found the View Source under More below the post, and I think this is the info you’re talking about. Let me know if it is not. The image information is below the post. ? ------=_Part_2379891_1723712028.1538332152046 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ? I put in an Airhead Composting toilet, took it the holding tank and put in = a water maker.. I still have a lot of room under the bed on my 1978 B plan = Islander Freeport 36. I will put a composting head in every future boat I o= wn...<div class=3D"yahoo-compose-assist-image-card ymail-android-inline-img= -container ymail-card" contenteditable=3D"false"><img id=3D"ymail_attachmen= tId39336" class=3D"inline-image-global inlined-image-cid-ebeadf6f-56e4-46b6= -a97d-aa550e904cb1" src=3D"cid:ebeadf6f-56e4-46b6-a97d-aa550e904cb1" style= =3D"width:100%;max-width:800px;"><br></div><br><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElem= entTracker_1538331811521"> ? I think this belongs to the image also. ? ------=_Part_2379892_78045339.1538332152060 Content-Type: image/jpeg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Screenshot_20180818-181706_Photos.jpg" Content-ID: <ebeadf6f-56e4-46b6-a97d-aa550e904cb1> Content-Length: 1170463 ? Don |
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Yep, that's it.
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That confirms that the image was embedded using the cid: (content id) scheme.
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Yes, that heading describes the image file, attached to the message with the image content encoded below that point. Note the Content-ID marker. If there were more than one image in the message body each would be identified by its own unique Content-ID.
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All of this seems perfectly normal, so I still have no clue why this image would not appear in the group's Emailed Photos folder. Possibly it has to do with how the email interface constructed or nested the MIME parts that hold the text/plain (if any), text/HTML, and the image/jpeg portions of the message. You (wisely) didn't post the entire message source, so I can't see the fields that would tell me about that.
Maybe you should report this to [email protected], including the group name and message number. Shal
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 01:43 AM, <dgrass1@...> wrote:
I have a member that ‘attached’ a picture to his email to the group, and his picture is not stored in Emailed Photos. Does the message involved display an "Edited" tag? |
开云体育Edited tag? Explain please. ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman ? On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 01:43 AM, <dgrass1@...> wrote:
Does the message involved display an "Edited" tag? |
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Look at the message online. Is there a blue tag at upper right that says "Edited?" An example can be found here.
If present, this would suggest that the message has been modified since it was originally posted to the group, and perhaps the attachment was removed at that time. Click on the tag to see the revision history. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
开云体育Shal, ? I got an email from support telling me they fixed the problem. The picture that was attached or embedded to the post, can now also be found in Emailed Photos like it should be. ? Don ? From: dgrass1@... <dgrass1@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 8:39 AM To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [GMF] Attached Picture Not In Emailed Photos. ? Shal, ? I sent a message to support about this, and we’ll have to wait for a reply. ? Thanks for your help, Don |
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I've tested the posting of embedded photos in my group, and have been following this topic. Interestingly, I still don't see the Emailed Photos Album, even though they are classified as attachments in the Photos Album. Any idea why? Please see the screenshot of the Photos Album below.
I found this in "View Source" of one of my test messages: <img src=3D"cid:ii_jmtm0bkx0" alt=3D"Fall4H2019Event v1.0.jpg= " width=3D"349" height=3D"451"> Thanks. Lily |
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On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Lily Yapp wrote:
I still don't see the Emailed Photos AlbumThere's a separate Photos area for each group/subgroup.? Are you looking in the group that you sent it to?? (The summary for attachment size includes all groups/subgroups though.) Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
开云体育Did you try to click on the <img src=3D"cid:ii_jmtm0bkx0" to see what happens? ? Don ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lily Yapp ? I've tested the posting of embedded photos in my group, and have been following this topic. Interestingly, I still don't see the Emailed Photos Album, even though they are classified as attachments in the Photos Album. Any idea why? Please see the screenshot of the Photos Album below. <img src=3D"" alt=3D"Fall4H2019Event v1.0.jpg= " width=3D"349" height=3D"451">
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Thanks for the reminder. Yes, I did check the correct subgroup. Below is a screenshot of another subgroup which has the Emailed Photos Album:
My other subgroups also have the Emailed Photos Album displayed. Only the previously mentioned subgroup does not have the Emailed Photos Album. For my group, the summary of the attachments in the Photo Album is particular to each group/subgroup. In my main group, which does not allow attachments, the summary shows 0B for attachments storage in the Photos Album. Not a big deal for my group - just curious why the behavior is different for this particular subgroup. Thanks for any insight into this. Lily |
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Lily,
I've tested the posting of embedded photos in my group, and have been following this topic. Interestingly, I still don't see the Emailed Photos Album, even though they are classified as attachments in the Photos Album. ?
The screen shot implies that all of the attachments in that (sub)group were not images - hence not creating an Emailed Photos folder.
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If you posted messages with embedded photos to that (sub)group there are a couple of possible reasons, apart from the bug Mark fixed recently, that those photos might not be stored in the group as Emailed Photos:
The third option, of course, is that there's still a bug, or that Mark's reindexing didn't fix cases with no pre-existing Emailed Photos folder.
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See my earlier posts in this topic. I hiven't tested whether Mark's comment (in that Site updates message) about converting inline images into attachments means that the "data" scheme has been fixed. That would be worth checking.
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Lily,
LOL. I guess I missed that possibility. However, when set to Bounce, Strip, or Moderate, the Emailed Photos Album is not displayed, although the attachments storage still shows the same size. Good question. I'm sure the storage remains the same because the images are not retroactively deleted when you change the setting. And I would argue that they shouldn't be. However I think it would be fair to call this a bug, because the Emailed Photos Album ought to be shown whenever it is not empty, rather than being hidden by control of the group setting. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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