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I recently discovered that my basic Group was using the entire 2Gb of storage
Mostly with photos. This is after 15 years with Yahoo. We are sort of a how to do it
Group, and phone pics have gotten bigger. The members do not want me to simply
delete all old stuff, because it has historical value
I have deleted some that were not of much use and gained 130 Mb of space.
The pics attached to messages are 26% of our total space now.

I can start an effort to induce posters to judge how much detail is needed in a pic.
Perhaps I can cut the Attachments space in half.

All this is a short term (4-5 years?) solution.
Members have suggested upgrading and offered funding.
But it appears that for us, if the funding stops, all the old stuff exceeding 1Gb
will be gone. That is what the members are afraid of.
We have no use for any of the other features, and most of our members are not
technically capable.

How about a 2-5 Gb for a one time payment program being available?
Even better maybe a one time payment for a forever 1 Gb more space as a basic -2 upgrade?
And repeatable every few years as the new space fill up.
This could be up to 10Gb at which point some new decision is in order.
Like buying bananas by the pound.
Use them up and then buy more.

I cannot see our group ever using 10 Gb (famous last words!) and we may never fill a second Gb.
Then too as the volume of information increases, the likelihood of anyone finding anything
useful to themselves decreases.? We have no Google to find anything in the Photos or Files sections,
and many members of our Group find it easier to place an inquiry to the group and have it answered by a member as
to the location of the information where it has been for 10 years. Few photos even have a caption.

My group has only 765 members, and within our obscure "hobby/avocation" the membership is dropping slowly.
There is no possibility of ever having more than 1000 members.
There must be a lot of Groups with the same limited future.

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Richard
 

You could change the resolution max for all photos and reclaim space that way. Most people would not notice the difference in resolution.

You could set up several groups of howtos using some classification system so different subjects are in different free groups, each gets a full allocation of space.
 

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 02:18 pm, ray_r.rm wrote:
How about a 2-5 Gb for a one time payment program being available?
Even better maybe a one time payment for a forever 1 Gb more space as a basic -2 upgrade?
And repeatable every few years as the new space fill up.

Much of this was discussed on the beta group awhile back (which would be the proper place since Groups.io Management isn't on this group), but Mark hasn't mentioned anything about possibly doing it.? The biggest problem I had was folks not realizing that the default resolution of their camera, regardless of type, was for printing 8x10 pictures.? Much lower resolution is fine for viewing on any type of device.? I've now set my groups to resize to 312x312 and haven't had any complaints.? (488x488 should work for nearly any group except possibly fine art discussions. ;>)

Duane
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My group that was on Y since 2000, had used a whole lot of pictures as attachments to explain certain things. Members also had photo albums for storing their personal pictures in that related to what our group was about, with a few members accumulating up to 200 pictures in their albums. We also had files, databases, and archived posts too, and on Y our storage was almost unlimited. I knew when I decided to move the group to Groups.io I was going to need more than 1GB, but 10 was going to be overkill. I also knew I was going to lose all the attachments that were tied to archived posts, but I decided I could sacrifice the attachments for a move to a stable site. Groups.io offered everything I wanted so our group would continue into the future, and with 10GB of space we would never run out of room. The tradeoff besides the loss of the old attachments, is it was going to cost me $10.00 per month. Y spoiled me by giving all that to me for free, but I had to contend with a constant barrage of advertisements, and customer service that was pretty much non-existent¡­Just the opposite in Groups.io. Some members offered to pay a little to offset the $10.00 per month, but to me it seemed kind of ridiculous to take $1.00 donations from a few members out of almost 100, and to complicated to setup just for $10.00 per month. I decided since this group was my baby, if I wanted it to continue on it was going to be up to me to pay for it. So where was I going to get the money to pay for my group every month? By giving up going out to coffee about five times a month, I could easily pay for the group, so that¡¯s what I¡¯ve been doing, and it hasn¡¯t changed anything in my life¡­except I¡¯ve saved a little gas money in the process.

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Don

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Subject: [GMF] Storage space

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I recently discovered that my basic Group was using the entire 2Gb of storage
Mostly with photos. This is after 15 years with Yahoo. We are sort of a how to do it
Group, and phone pics have gotten bigger. The members do not want me to simply
delete all old stuff, because it has historical value
I have deleted some that were not of much use and gained 130 Mb of space.
The pics attached to messages are 26% of our total space now.

I can start an effort to induce posters to judge how much detail is needed in a pic.
Perhaps I can cut the Attachments space in half.

All this is a short term (4-5 years?) solution.
Members have suggested upgrading and offered funding.
But it appears that for us, if the funding stops, all the old stuff exceeding 1Gb
will be gone. That is what the members are afraid of.
We have no use for any of the other features, and most of our members are not
technically capable.

How about a 2-5 Gb for a one time payment program being available?
Even better maybe a one time payment for a forever 1 Gb more space as a basic -2 upgrade?
And repeatable every few years as the new space fill up.
This could be up to 10Gb at which point some new decision is in order.
Like buying bananas by the pound.
Use them up and then buy more.

I cannot see our group ever using 10 Gb (famous last words!) and we may never fill a second Gb.
Then too as the volume of information increases, the likelihood of anyone finding anything
useful to themselves decreases.? We have no Google to find anything in the Photos or Files sections,
and many members of our Group find it easier to place an inquiry to the group and have it answered by a member as
to the location of the information where it has been for 10 years. Few photos even have a caption.

My group has only 765 members, and within our obscure "hobby/avocation" the membership is dropping slowly.
There is no possibility of ever having more than 1000 members.
There must be a lot of Groups with the same limited future.

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Richard

 

Richard,

Members have suggested upgrading and offered funding. But it appears
that for us, if the funding stops, all the old stuff exceeding 1Gb
will be gone. That is what the members are afraid of.
For the moment that's not true. Currently when a group downgrades the existing content is not deleted; you simply lose the ability to add more if you're now over the limit.

However, I don't know if that can be relied on as a site policy in the long run. If the time comes that you're faced with having your group revert to Basic you should take advantage of the content download feature before the downgrade takes effect, just in case.

How about a 2-5 Gb for a one time payment program being available?
I'm all for that, even as a yearly payment. As Duane mentioned it was discussed in beta a while ago, but nothing has been said about it by Groups.io (Mark).


Shal


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Bob,

You could change the resolution max for all photos and reclaim space
that way. Most people would not notice the difference in resolution.
That's definitely something to consider going forward.

It would be really nice if there were a feature to apply those limits to existing photos "in situ" - without having to download and re-upload them and without disturbing their meta data (Name, Owner, Upload date, Description). That's something else that's been requested in beta:


We recently got a partial solution in the ability for a moderator to set the Owner field. But that still leaves the excessively tedious task of downloading, deleting, rescaling, uploading, and then correcting the Owner field of the resized photo.

Shal


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