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Privacy security on groups.io platform

Tony Ngai
 

Dear all senior Group managers :
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As I mentioned , I am a new comer ( [email protected]) n doing beta trial at this moment , hope all donot mind I asking about current privacy protection of platform as well as liability to us in role of chief administrator as well as respective “owner” of the group ! This is in referring to the incident of “face book” event though I am nothing close in size or scale to “face book” but liability remains , so to speak !
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Pls share !
Many tks?
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Tony Ngai?魏天明?

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Hi Tony,
I'm not sure what you mean by "Privacy" in the groups. Anything on the internet is subject to hacking. I don't think that it is any greater than having a member who harvests emails or group information.

If you go to / there is a statement that there is no tracking or ads.

I'm not sure if this is the place to ask about this since we are a group of Group Owners and not the creator or owner of Groups.io. Perhaps Shal or one of the more knowledgeable members will have some input.

Good Luck with your Group,
Paul, Ohio, USA

On Thursday, April 26, 2018, 7:25:52 AM EDT, Tony Ngai <tony@...> wrote:

Dear all senior Group managers :
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As I mentioned , I am a new comer ( [email protected]) n doing beta trial at this moment , hope all do not mind I asking about current privacy protection of platform as well as liability to us in role of chief administrator as well as respective “owner” of the group ! This is in referring to the incident of “face book” event though I am nothing close in size or scale to “face book” but liability remains , so to speak !
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Pls share !
Many tks?
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Tony Ngai?魏天明?

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Tony Ngai
 

Dear Paul;
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Many thanks for reply, really appreciate your insight, I will study more !
best,
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Tony
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Main driver,
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寄件者: "Paul Ohio USA via Groups.Io" <pwberndt@...>
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寄件备份: 2018 4 月 28 星期六 下午 11:10:53
主旨: Re: [GMF] Privacy security on groups.io platform

Hi Tony,
I'm not sure what you mean by "Privacy" in the groups. Anything on the internet is subject to hacking. I don't think that it is any greater than having a member who harvests emails or group information.

If you go to / there is a statement that there is no tracking or ads.

I'm not sure if this is the place to ask about this since we are a group of Group Owners and not the creator or owner of Groups.io. Perhaps Shal or one of the more knowledgeable members will have some input.

Good Luck with your Group,
Paul, Ohio, USA
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On 04/26/2018 11:20 AM, Tony Ngai wrote:

about current privacy protection of groups.io
What specifically, do you mean by "privacy protection"?

As list-owner, you can restrict the membership list to owners and
moderators. OTOH, email addresses within message bodies are not
redactable.

platform as well as liability to us in role of chief administrator as well as respective “owner” of the group
Specific liability depends primarily upon where the group owner has
their jurisdictional domain.

In the US, for all practical purposes, anything goes, because despite
having more laws that allegedly protect privacy than any other country
on the planet, enforcement is, at best, nominal.

In the Philippines, despite having the strictest privacy protection laws
currently in force, enforcement is based on "not a friend of the state"
status.

In Europe, after 25 May 2018, the GDPR will go into effect. This will be
the strictest, consistently enforced privacy law in the world.

In both PRC, and Russia, enforcement of privacy legislation is based
upon "not a friend of the state" status.

Secondarily, liability depends upon rules, ethics, and codes of conduct
within the field of endeavor. These are enforced by individual
organizations, not governments.

Tertiarily, liability depends upon codes of conduct and rules of ethics
of the individual/organization that is the owner of the group. These
would be enforced by the specific organization/individual.

This is in referring to the incident of “face book” event
Facebook has always played fast and loose with what it does with the
data it compiles on people. The only thing that is new, is that
_Cambridge Analytics_ got caught violating ethical guidelines for
experiments on human subjects.

jonathon
Tony Ngai
 

Dear Jonathon;
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Many thanks for your sharing, what you said sounds reasonable as well as describing certain practice around the world.
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Really appreciate.
Best,
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Tony Ngai?
Main driver of CCML




Tony Ngai?魏天明?
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toki <toki.kantoor@...> 於 2018年4月29日 下午9:17 寫道：

On 04/26/2018 11:20 AM, Tony Ngai wrote:

about current privacy protection of

What specifically, do you mean by "privacy protection"?

As list-owner, you can restrict the membership list to owners and
moderators. OTOH, email addresses within message bodies are not
redactable.

platform as well as liability to us in role of chief administrator as well as respective “owner” of the group

Specific liability depends primarily upon where the group owner has
their jurisdictional domain.

In the US, for all practical purposes, anything goes, because despite
having more laws that allegedly protect privacy than any other country
on the planet, enforcement is, at best, nominal.

In the Philippines, despite having the strictest privacy protection laws
currently in force, enforcement is based on "not a friend of the state"
status.

In Europe, after 25 May 2018, the GDPR will go into effect. This will be
the strictest, consistently enforced privacy law in the world.

In both PRC, and Russia, enforcement of privacy legislation is based
upon "not a friend of the state" status.

Secondarily, liability depends upon rules, ethics, and codes of conduct
within the field of endeavor. These are enforced by individual
organizations, not governments.

Tertiarily, liability depends upon codes of conduct and rules of ethics
of the individual/organization that is the owner of the group. These
would be enforced by the specific organization/individual.

This is in referring to the incident of “face book” event

Facebook has always played fast and loose with what it does with the
data it compiles on people. The only thing that is new, is that
_Cambridge Analytics_ got caught violating ethical guidelines for
experiments on human subjects.

jonathon
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