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FW: [GMF] Questions before transferring a large group from Y!G to G.IO
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? If you haven¡¯t seen the discussion yet there is one IO issue you need to know to know about and accept before transferring. Any IO posting that gets put into a member spam folder whether with or without their knowledge WILL result in them being un-subscribed. They then have to find and correct the IO spam status to regain uninterrupted membership. It is a pain in the buns for the owner/moderator. ? My group is only 800 but 50 of them initially were booted and even now after a month in IO 39 are still in this loop. We are parents of children declining with a terminal disorder so this disconnect for 39 parents is killing me. I may well not have transferred if I knew of this before transferring. YahooGroups just ignores it because they are big enough no other internet identities will block them; not so IO, they say they need to have a good spam record or be blocked by too many entities. ? Search the GMF archive; there are dozens of postings pro and con on this issue. ? Good luck in your decision. ? Paul
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GMF] Questions before transferring a large group from Y!G to G.IO #yahoo #transfer ? I'm involved with a large group, about to make the transfer from Yahoo to Groups.io, and we have questions.? I am naive at this.? I have much to learn about groups.io, and never enough time. ? By "large", I mean these: ?- Number of group Members ?- Number of Files and file directories ?- Number of Messages I don't mean total file size. ?
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Gerald Boutin
Any IO posting that gets put into a member spam folder whether with or without their knowledge WILL result in them being un-subscribed.? Paul, You are incorrectly overstating the problem. Just the act of of putting an emailed posting into a spam folder does not trigger this event. Gerald [Mod note : the difficulty is that the trigger is dependent on the recipient's email service provider, ?so blanket statements are wrong for many users. Some, e.g. Gmail, don't send reports at all.] |
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:27 am, Paul Konanz wrote:
Search the GMF archive; there are dozens of postings pro and con on this issue.Paul; the most recent of those postings are gathered in the Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam thread with a Poll attached further down the front page, assuming that you read this on the web UI rather than by email. It currently stands at 89 posts and may or may not grow further. Out of that topic a fairly comprehensive wiki page has been written, and as whoever moderated your post said "See the wiki page about it"; it may not be immediately obvious but the moderator put a link there for you, and it's in the pasted version here as well. While noting that it is still technically a "work in progress" I don't think there is much more that will be done with it; it is certainly comprehensive enough for you to paste into your own group's wiki. Once you have done that? I also suggest that you send out a post drawing your members' attention to it, and make that post "sticky" so that it remains in view on the group web UI. A suitable hashtag against it will also help; I use Group_Management. IMHO important topics such as "members being deleted..." show up what I would regard as a major weakness in people relying on email access rather than the web UI. Emails are quite ephemeral; they come, they go and will often be forgotten about not much later, so an email containing important "Group Management" information gets forgotten along with the rest. Using the web UI means that "sticky topics" with a hashtag in an eye - grabbing colour will act as reminders every time someone accesses the group via the UI; that simply won't happen with email access. Having said that I daresay that expecting people to use the web UI in the days of smart phones is simply expecting too much, sad to say... in my view it is much more useful. Regards, Chris |
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Thank you for both clarifications. But unfortunately they are a moot point. With 800 subscribers and the initial 50 bounced and 39 still bounced, I think my group is reasonably representative, and that is the point. 50 of 800 is 6.25%. He reasonably could 3,500 ¨C 4,000 members affected. Brrrr! ? Andy just needs to look before he leaps and make an informed decision on this issue. I sent him off to the archives where lord knows there is plenty of discussion and much clarification on it. ? Paul ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald Boutin
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FW: [GMF] Questions before transferring a large group from Y!G to G.IO #yahoo #transfer ?
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