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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:19 PM, Duane wrote:

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 05:15 AM, ro-esp wrote:

I'm not sure whether this should be reported as a bug to the beta-group

I wouldn't consider it to be a bug, you just have to be sure that you're
logged in with the correct account before using any emailed links.

I? m not sure. I log in by clicking a link from a digest belonging to my primary account. How is it not a bug if "the system" "thinks" I am logged in with my back-up account?

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

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Not really a big deal, but if I set up multiple reminders for a calendar event each message that is sent becomes its own topic. Is there any way to prevent that? Just live with it? Suggest to beta group? Below an image from the "Topics" view.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 09:08 AM, Nic wrote:

I'm wondering if Groups.io offers any other spam control options for the +owners email address?

Not that I'm aware of.? I've only gotten a couple, so not a major headache (yet?).? Might be a good suggestion for the beta group.

Duane
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An unsavory miscreant has chosen to send spam to the +owners@ address for my group.?

I know how to handle spam for my ISP and email client, but I'm wondering if Groups.io offers any other spam control options for the +owners email address??

Thanks for the help.

— Nic

The need for an online photo resize operation has come up here a
few times in the past. Since no such online facility exists, I've
now been through the alternative process, and thought I'd share it.

I just went through the (tedious) process of reuploading all of the
oversized pictures in my group's Photos section. The original group
owner had neglected to enable resizing. Whether by glitch or grace
factor, we were occupying 1.3Gb. After reuploading, we're down to
just 323Mb, using a 1024x1024 cap. (Woohoo!)

As a precaution, I first got an exported zip backup, so I had all of
the data I needed in case I screwed up royally. That also let me
experiment, to see how much space we'd save after resizing. So I
knew it would be worthwhile before starting.

My process was to first individually delete each photo in an album, in
order to preserve the album's "shell", which preserved the original
creation date, owner, description. I then re-uploaded from copies
that came from the zip export.

The uploads were made easier with some commandline scripts that
ensured that my browser's default upload directory always pointed to a
directory containing only the files from the album I was working on.
(There were symlinks involved.) Also, the per-image json files had all
been moved elsewhere, so that they didn't interfere with a
multiple-select when uploading.

Before starting I had processed the json files so I had the
"Description" data in a form I could easily work with, using full-line
copy/paste. Happily, most photos don't have descriptions, but for
those that did, I could quickly paste them into place.

We have something like 1300 pictures across about 180 albums. Many
pictures were already appropriately sized, but if even a few were too
big, I usually redid the whole album, rather than having to carefully
pick and choose.

I did "screw up royally" twice, while in the really boring per-Photo
"Select-->Edit->Delete->Confirm" cycle. Somehow I managed to (twice!)
skip the "Select" part, and then hit Edit, Delete, and Confirm on the
_album_ instead of on a photo. Dumb. But since I had the photos
already in the zip, all I really lost was the albums' creation times.
Oh well.

But I had to deal with some "surprises" in the zip file:

Duplicates:
Many albums contained duplicate filenames, so when unzipping the
folders there were conflicts. My zip extracter (linux "unzip")
doesn't have a "disambiguate" option, so there was extra manual
work to rename the duplicates.

AFAICT, the duplicates came from three sources:
- Many albums had multiple files named "image.jpeg", sometimes
every photo in the album. These might come from
drag-and-drop, but that's just a guess.
- In some cases it was clear that the identically-named files
were, in fact, identical, and that the user had simply
uploaded the second by accident.
- In many cases the user had renamed the files after upload, to
give them a "meaningful" name. Sometimes the same name was
chosen for more than one picture.

Missing extensions:
Uploaded photos can be renamed by the user (see last bullet,
above), so that, for example, a photo of a pansy can be "Pretty
Flower" instead of "DSC_12357.jpg". (Yes, there's also a
Description that can be modified, but either works as far as the
user is concerned.) When "Pretty Flower" is exported, the original
suffix is lost, and the groups.io uploader won't reaccept the
files. So they need to have the ".jpg" added back on. Except
that they might be PNG, GIF, etc, so you need to identify the file
type before renaming.

All in all, it wasn't a horrible project, and took maybe 6 or 8 hours,
once I got going. Hope this helps anyone that might be considering
doing it.

paul
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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 68.9 degrees)

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 07:20 AM, Sarah Shapiro wrote:

Zoom is open to hackers only if they have the link.

Even with the link, it all depends upon what options the meeting has been created with by the host.? By default, meetings now require a password and waiting rooms are enabled so it's up to the host who gets in. These features weren't enabled by default to start with (an issue openly acknowledged by Zoom) even though they were available. While most corporates were likely to secure their meetings because of the environment they are in, individuals who were new to video conferencing did not. Add to that some people's need to share everything they do on social media, including meeting links and it was open season for some hackers and so called Zoom Bombing.

Andy

Just to add an experience I had. About fifteen years ago a member of a Yahoo regional history group I belonged to sent an attached photo in a message post. The group owner went ballistic because he feared the photographer finding out and suing the group for a copyright violation. I was one of the moderators and I told the owner we could just delete the message with the photo. The owner was convinced he would be held liable and wind up losing his house.

In this group we had a member who WAS a lawyer. Someone many of us knew personally and greatly respected. The lawyer responded that first of all, the photo already existed on the internet? and that was where the image came from. Reusing an image (not from a negative or print) but from a digital image available to the public at large, was kind of a gray area in copyright law. Or at least it was in 2005. Secondly, if someone sues over a copyright violation, the damages asked for have to have a basis in reality.? Someone posted a digital image of one of this gentleman's photo to a private Yahoo group. What kind of financial loss would that cost the photographer? Especially when the photographer had already made the image available over the internet.

The lawyer said, in his experience, the remedy was usually not paying monetary damages but simply agreeing to take the image down. That he had represented a corporate client who had used a photo of a football player being tackled in an ad campaign without permission. Someone at the National Football League saw it and filed a copyright violation. The corporate client agreed to remove the ads and that satisfied the NFL.

My point here is, don't be bullied by someone threatening to sue. On what basis? Libel, slander? How was the party damaged financially? Loss of earnings, loss of reputation?? The lawyer told us people would be surprised how many lawsuits get dismissed at filing. For the court to accept the filing, the plaintiff is required to show they have a plausible case. The plaintiff also has to convince a judge they have a reasonable chance of winning whatever damages they are asking for. If the plaintiff can't do those two things the judge will refuse to put it on the calendar, and the suit will be dismissed. That civil courts don't just drag everyone into court to 'find out what this is all about.'

tommy0421

The Owners Manual actually doesn't say, currently, whether banning a domain in a main (parent) group also bans it in the subgroups. I just confirmed with Mark that it does, so I'll update the Owners Manual accordingly.

- Nina

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 05:15 AM, ro-esp wrote:

I'm not sure whether this should be reported as a bug to the beta-group

I wouldn't consider it to be a bug, you just have to be sure that you're logged in with the correct account before using any emailed links.

Duane
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 01:06 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:53 PM, ro-esp wrote:

but after clicking "reply to this message" I didn't see the button.

No need to click reply, it's here:

I'm on digest, so I do have to click "reply to this message", and no it wasn't there. However, what was there is a button to JOIN (in blue) groupmanagerforum to receive all messages.

The problem seems to be that I joined one of my groups with a back-up email-address, and the system confusing them. The digest is sent to the correct address, but when I visit the website it thinks I'm using the other account.

Unsubscribing the back-up address and logging out seems to have restored things, but I'm not sure whether this should be reported as a bug to the beta-group

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

Yes, and I remember all this terminology was a subject in Beta, but I thought it had been fixed. There are various inconsistencies such as the "joined" badge as Marianna pointed out. The NC badge strongly indicates that the person in question isn?t a member yet. And hopefully all this will be corrected one day....
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:53 PM, ro-esp wrote:

but after clicking "reply to this message" I didn't see the button.

No need to click reply, it's here:




Andy

Today I wanted to thumb-up a GMF-message, but after clicking "reply to this message" I didn't see the button.


groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 09:45 PM, Kenny Paul wrote:

Does blocking a domain at the main level also block it for all subgroups of main?

The Owners' Manual is your friend here: /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/features-available-for-premium-and-enterprise-groups/banning-domains-from-the-group

Andy

Does blocking a domain at the main level also block it for all subgroups of main?
Asking for a friend ;-)
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 03:52 AM, Victoria wrote:

why are membership applicants called "member" before even admitted?

There may be a programmatic reason, but that's just a guess.? A record of a person's choices for a group needs to be created when someone applies and I'm guessing it was easiest (though maybe not best) to just create a member record.? In addition, I've noticed that a person's Joined date/time is actually the date/time they applied on restricted groups, so it makes sense that they're linked somehow.? Hopefully, it can't be too confusing as long as candidates only show up on the Pending Members page.? It's quite possible that this is one of those niggling little things that Mark will tweak 'one day'.

Duane
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