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Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

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Chris,

On a related point which of the drop - down list is "Posted Message"?

For messages that didn't require moderation there's Accepted message, for those that did there's Moderated message. So you may have to search two actions. Oh, and maybe Edited message and Edited message without sending to the group.

And of course there's all of the error cases for messages that weren't accepted.

At least for this there's the Message Activity tab to gather all of those. But that leaves out the disposition of a Moderated message - for that you must turn to the Moderator Activity or All Activity tab to find Approved pending message, Deleted pending message, and Rejected pending message. Interesting, there does not appear to be an Edited pending message.

Shal


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Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

Victoria,

I just saw that member activities which lie before the transfer date
do not appear. Is this normality?
Yes. The transfer agent does not copy the Y!Group's activity logs.

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Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

Victoria,

This was an extremely practical feature in yg, for you could find at one glance who applied, joined and unsubscribed within the last few months.

I also miss the Membership tab. It gathered in one list all the actions that affect a person's membership, without being cluttered with message or feature related actions:



In Groups.io you can only do this one member at a time, as Duane described.

That one's a common enough use case that I think it merits its own tab. But there are other cases where you want to find all activity related to X, but instead you have to search the handful to dozens of individual actions related to X. For example, try to find out what's happened lately in the wiki (beta ).

The other key failing of Groups.io's Activity log is that the Search feature here does not do partial matches - e.g. you must search for the entire email address, not just part of it.

Shal



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Just checked mine, that looks true for Member Activities.? For Message Activity, all the archived messages (messages posted previous to the transfer) have a date of the transfer date.? For Moderator Activities, it starts when I created the group in IO.

Barb

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On 2018-05-06 01:50 PM, Victoria wrote:

Duane,

I just saw that member activities which lie before the transfer date do not appear. Is this normality?

Victoria


Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:43 am, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
You can see all posts by a member by simply displaying any message that member sent.
Then click the More below the messages and select the All Posts by this Member
Trouble is that fails completely if the person you want to search on hasn't posted anything, or hasn't posted anything recently. A system that relies on finding a "specimen" post by a member isn't a system at all, I'm afraid.

Chris.


Re: owner getting every message posted

 

Peter,

I see that messages intended for the owner or moderator come to
[email protected] and regular group messages come
to [email protected] ...
Regular group messages could also be sent to [email protected] - for the primary group (only) the two forms are synonyms.

So I assume that when my account is set to digest I should still
receive the former as individual messages, but not the latter.
Correct. Your subscription's Email Delivery setting controls only group postings, not +owner messages or other notifications.

Yet the latter is still happening.
Be aware that you have a separate subscription page for each subgroup - selecting Digest in the primary group won't affect group postings in subgroups.

I don't recall that you mentioned whether or not you are also getting a digest for the primary group.

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Re: size limit ?

 

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:49 am, Bonnie :-) wrote:
Is there a limit to how large a message can be & still go thru a groups.io group?
If you want a message to reach everyone in the group (and that's kinda the point, isn't it?), it has to comply with the requirements of all intermediate mail servers. It's nice that groups.io will forward huge messages, but it does little good if it creates a bounce-fest downstream.

For that reason, I have set max attachment size to 5MB in our group settings as a default. Bigger attachments are stored on the server and forwarded as links. See Admin->Settings->Default Sub Settings->Max Attachment Size. This setting applies to the total of all attachments in any given message. It also means that if anybody wants to access such file(s), then they have to log in.

I realize that most servers will forward larger messages than this, and limits are going up all the time. Still, I have made it clear to my subscribers that they send messages much bigger than this -- or change this setting in their group delivery preferences -- at their own risk.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: size limit ?

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Thank you! Very helpful info. :-)

Bonnie

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Subject: Re: [GMF] size limit ?

A couple of years ago, Mark said, "We bounce back messages greater than ~94MB. Because of the way that attachments are encoded, max attachment size will be somewhat lower than that."

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On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:51 am, Victoria wrote:
I just saw that member activities which lie before the transfer date do not appear. Is this normality?
I haven't transferred a group, so hopefully someone that has can answer this.

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Re: size limit ?

 

A couple of years ago, Mark said, "We bounce back messages greater than ~94MB. Because of the way that attachments are encoded, max attachment size will be somewhat lower than that."

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question about the feature "activity"

 

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Duane,

I just saw that member activities which lie before the transfer date do not appear. Is this normality?

Victoria


size limit ?

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Is there a limit to how large a message can be & still go thru a groups.io group?

Bonnie


Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

You can see all posts by a member by simply displaying any message that member sent.
Then click the More below the messages and select the All Posts by this Member
Any member can? do this.??
I just did it for you
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Re: owner getting every message posted

 

That's helpful, Shal. I see that messages intended for the owner or moderator come to?[email protected]?and regular group messages come to [email protected]. So I assume that when my account is set to digest I should still receive the former as individual messages, but not the latter. Yet the latter is still happening. I've changed my subscription to individual and back to digest, so let's see if that fixes it.
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Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

On a related point which of the drop - down list is "Posted Message"? I have looked through it several times but cannot spot anything that looks as though it might find messages posted by a specific member.

Chris


Re: Transfer member not in member list? #importingdata

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John,

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Duh! How stupid of me! I went to the Yahoo forums and everything is ok now. I'm just waiting on the transfer to happen now. Thanks!

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There is a significant ¡°stupid list¡± on that issue. My name is on it.

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Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 08:15 am, Victoria wrote:
Do you think the feature that I asked about (which existed in Yahoo) is s. th. that could easily be added for groups.io?
Mark has said that virtually anything like this is possible with computers, it's a matter of whether it would be useful for many people.? It won't hurt to ask, giving as many details as possible of what you expect to see.

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Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

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Thanks, Duane,

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I?ll store this information for cases where I need it. Yes, I see it?s a bit tricky but possible. Do you think the feature that I asked about (which existed in Yahoo) is s. th. that could easily be added for groups.io? Then I would go and ask in Beta.

Victoria

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It's over simplifying it, but Member Activity is anything any member could do (although it may be done by a moderator) and Moderator Activity is what only a moderator is allowed do.

There's not an easy way to do what you've asked, but there is a way.? You could go to the Member Activity log and select Left from the Actions drop down, then click the Search button (leave Date set to Any).? This would give a list of anyone that's left the group.? Now you can copy that person's email address (or name, but email address is better) into the Search box, select All Actions from the Actions drop down menu, click the Search button (again leaving Date set to Any), and you'll have a list of all actions by that member.

For other actions, you could use similar logic.? One thing that has thrown me off a few times is forgetting to click the Search button after selecting an Action.

Duane


Re: question about the feature "activity"

 

It's over simplifying it, but Member Activity is anything any member could do (although it may be done by a moderator) and Moderator Activity is what only a moderator is allowed do.

There's not an easy way to do what you've asked, but there is a way.? You could go to the Member Activity log and select Left from the Actions drop down, then click the Search button (leave Date set to Any).? This would give a list of anyone that's left the group.? Now you can copy that person's email address (or name, but email address is better) into the Search box, select All Actions from the Actions drop down menu, click the Search button (again leaving Date set to Any), and you'll have a list of all actions by that member.

For other actions, you could use similar logic.? One thing that has thrown me off a few times is forgetting to click the Search button after selecting an Action.

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question about the feature "activity"

 

Hi,

I cannot find a distinction between "Member Activity" and "Moderator Activity". When I choose "Member Activity", I get activities both of "normal" members but also the ones of moderators, although there is an extra feature for "Moderator Activity". So I do not understand why both activities are mixed together in "Member Activity". I know I can check one person?s history under his subscription, but that?s not what I want.

I?d like to have a clear distiction between "Member Activity" and "Moderator Activity". "Member Activity" should show activities of all members during the complete time of the group?s existence. This was an extremely practical feature in yg, for you could find at one glance who applied, joined and unsubscribed within the last few months. In groups.io I cannot find this feature, but I might have overseen it. So far I see all activites (of members and moderators) mingled together, and this makes this kind of search quite difficult.

Example: If I choose "Member Activity", I get hundreds of activities of moderators (file updating and changing, message sending, photo editing, etc.) and the ones of members somewhere in between. In the pulldown menue under "Actions", I can only select one action at a time, such as "applied for membership" but not the complete history of all members applications, unsubscriptions, mail address changes of the past months or years on one page (unless I am missing s. th..).

I hope I could make clear what I mean.

Thanks
Victoria