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Re: Members Unable to Post to Group

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 01:43 pm, Patty Fletcher wrote:
What I'd like to know please? Is how did you check that?
To see what's going on with a member, go to the Members page and select the member in question by clicking on the row anyplace except the box on the left.? On the resulting page, choose the "Email Delivery History button at the top.

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

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I get it now.

Must¡¯ve missed the part about online mail.

I read all my mail from my in box and when I do get digest mail I have no problem copying enough of the message to make it so folks know what I¡¯m referring to.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Duane
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 3:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group

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On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:22 pm, Patty Fletcher wrote:

Does it not help if a person¡¯s settings are set to show the poster¡¯s original message?


That would only work in an email client.? When replying online, there's no such setting, so each person replying has to make the decision of whether there will be any previous information included.

As an example, I highlighted your line above, then clicked on Reply so it was automatically included.? If I had just hit Reply, nothing would have been included, but I could click on "Quote Whole Post" (the speech balloon) to get it all included, then edit out anything I didn't want or intersperse my answers.

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Re: Members Unable to Post to Group

Patty Fletcher
 

What I'd like to know please? Is how did you check that?
I really do not understand all I know about all this.
Not sure why. Feeling rather stupid.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Leslie Noelani
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Members Unable to Post to Group

One member of my group said that her email to our group bounced, so I checked her "Email Delivery History" and found this:

Most Recent Unsuccessful Attempt:
Message: [MyGroup] Subject Title
Attempted: Jun 27
Response: 452 4.1.1 Too much mail from this address E2210


I thought I'd check every member in the group (we have maybe 10
members) and found that two other members have the same message.


And a fourth member had this:

Most Recent Unsuccessful Attempt:
Message: [MyGroup] Subject Title
Attempted: Jul 2
Response: EOF


What needs to happen for them to be able to respond to group posts? Is it something I can do myself?



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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:29 pm, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
I too prefer reading messages from my inbox
You can do it whichever way you prefer, but you can't expect everyone else to conform to your way of thinking (unless you own the group ;>).? We each have our own preferred method of communicating.? On my groups, most of us tend to read online, so not a problem for us.

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Re: how to allow moderators to apply a tag to a message? #hashtags

 

Go to the topic, select More below a message, and choose Edit Topic.? On the Edit page, just add the hashtag to the subject line, but be sure to leave a space on either side of it (none needed on the right if at the end of a line.)

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

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I?know how to read from the messages.
But I thought these were email groups and not forums or archive groups.
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I too prefer reading messages from my inbox as that is what I am accustomed to doing? in email groups.
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Date: 7/3/2018 1:32:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group
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On 7/3/2018 09:35, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
What is reading online? Is that from the message section of the group?
I am used to reading emails.
Ilene?

Yes, that's what that means.? If you click on the View/Reply link at the bottom of GIO email, it will take you to the message.? Click reply and a editor box appears for you to type your reply in.

I personally find using the web interface clunky, not because of anything about the editor, but rather that I prefer to have all of my email come to one inbox: to have only one place (i.e., my mail user agent, Thunderbird) to check and one place to reply from.? When my new messages in my inbox are cleared, I know they are cleared for all groups and such I belong to.? Responding to group email isn't then any different for me than responding to any other email, or for that matter, email from other lists like Google groups, GNU Mailman listservs and so on.

Others are likely to have different preferences.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:22 pm, Patty Fletcher wrote:
Does it not help if a person¡¯s settings are set to show the poster¡¯s original message?

That would only work in an email client.? When replying online, there's no such setting, so each person replying has to make the decision of whether there will be any previous information included.

As an example, I highlighted your line above, then clicked on Reply so it was automatically included.? If I had just hit Reply, nothing would have been included, but I could click on "Quote Whole Post" (the speech balloon) to get it all included, then edit out anything I didn't want or intersperse my answers.

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how to allow moderators to apply a tag to a message? #hashtags

Dan Hartford
 

Hi,

In a subgroup, where we don't require posts to have tags, and also restrict creating new tags to moderators, I'm having trouble figuring out how to allow a moderator to apply a tag (i.e. edit topic) on posts created by other people.??

Thanks -- Dan


Re: When replying to messages in this group

Patty Fletcher
 

I¡¯m swimming in posts.

But.

Does it not help if a person¡¯s settings are set to show the poster¡¯s original message?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of magicalkingdomgroups@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 1:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group

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Yes something like that. Or the way I just did it now when I replied.

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

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Yes something like that. Or the way I just did it now when I replied.
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-------Original Message-------
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Date: 7/3/2018 11:49:23 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 09:11 am, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
Is there a way to include the question or previous email when a reply is given in this group?so we know what your answer is referring to?
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You mean like this?

Yes, but not everybody does it, and there is no way to force them to. My experience suggests that no amount of cajoling will get people to do what I want, even in my own groups.

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When we see your answers, all is good, but sometimes I cannot figure out what the original question was the reply is for.
Whenever I run into this problem, I just click the "View/Reply Online" link in the footer, then click on the "View all XX messages in this thread" link at the bottom of the resulting page. Another option is to change to a Digest mode for your mail delivery, in which messages will be threaded.

Not a substitute for conscientious use of quoting, but opinions on what "conscientious" means vary widely.?

Hope this helps,
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Re: When replying to messages in this group

Glenn Glazer
 

On 7/3/2018 09:35, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
What is reading online? Is that from the message section of the group?
I am used to reading emails.
Ilene?

Yes, that's what that means.? If you click on the View/Reply link at the bottom of GIO email, it will take you to the message.? Click reply and a editor box appears for you to type your reply in.

I personally find using the web interface clunky, not because of anything about the editor, but rather that I prefer to have all of my email come to one inbox: to have only one place (i.e., my mail user agent, Thunderbird) to check and one place to reply from.? When my new messages in my inbox are cleared, I know they are cleared for all groups and such I belong to.? Responding to group email isn't then any different for me than responding to any other email, or for that matter, email from other lists like Google groups, GNU Mailman listservs and so on.

Others are likely to have different preferences.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

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What is reading online? Is that from the message section of the group?
I am used to reading emails.
Ilene?
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Date: 7/3/2018 11:14:51 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] When replying to messages in this group
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Many (most?) of us read online, so can see the entire thread.? Whether any information is quoted is up to the person making the reply.? I sometimes quote and sometimes don't, depending on how active the topic is.

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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 09:11 am, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
Is there a way to include the question or previous email when a reply is given in this group?so we know what your answer is referring to?
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You mean like this?

Yes, but not everybody does it, and there is no way to force them to. My experience suggests that no amount of cajoling will get people to do what I want, even in my own groups.

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When we see your answers, all is good, but sometimes I cannot figure out what the original question was the reply is for.
Whenever I run into this problem, I just click the "View/Reply Online" link in the footer, then click on the "View all XX messages in this thread" link at the bottom of the resulting page. Another option is to change to a Digest mode for your mail delivery, in which messages will be threaded.

Not a substitute for conscientious use of quoting, but opinions on what "conscientious" means vary widely.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: When replying to messages in this group

 

Many (most?) of us read online, so can see the entire thread.? Whether any information is quoted is up to the person making the reply.? I sometimes quote and sometimes don't, depending on how active the topic is.

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When replying to messages in this group

 

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Is there a way to include the question or previous email when a reply is given in this group?so we know what your answer is referring to?
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When we see your answers, all is good, but sometimes I cannot figure out what the original question was the reply is for.
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Re: coping with high traffic

 

Deborah Armstrong wrote:
One member in particular sends out a constant stream of "I couldn't agree more" and "I was thinking of the same thing" type posts.
I suggest you ask that member / all members to note the use of the Like tab, and having noted it, actualoly use it rather than clog your group up with pointless traffic.

I knew I'd find it somewhere; this Dilbert cartoon identified this very problem over 20 years ago:

Chris


Re: Members Unable to Post to Group

 

Leslie,
Let's back up a bit.? You said "her email to our group bounced" which sounds like she got an error message when she tried to send a post or reply?to groups.io.? To help, we need to know what error message that user got from?her email service.
The "most recent unsuccessful attempt" is a record of last time there was a failure when groups.io sent an email?to the subscriber.? When was the "most recent successful delivery" to this user?? If successful deliveries are reported after the most recent unsuccessful attempt, then she is receiving email from groups.io.? (meaning whatever caused the earlier failure is no longer blocking email)
Thanks
Toby


Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

So, I have a question about that auto reinstatement email that gets sent to someone who was auto unsubscribed for marking a groups.io email as Spam (or, their ISP did that for them, unknowingly):? Would not that auto reinstatement email now end up in that person's Spam folder since they have marked the group's email address as Spam?? Should we as list mods, warn unsubbed list members to also look in their Spam/Junk folder for that auto reinstatment email, because it's probably not going to end up in their Inbox?? And, it sure would be nice if Groups.io had the ability to "group email" all auto unsubbed list members, to let them know they were auto unsubbed due to marking the list's email as Spam, and here's the link to be reinstated.? I already have two pages of auto-unsubbed list members since transferring over, about 3 weeks ago :-(? Again, due to the make up my list members, not being the most computer savvy bunch.
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Re: Finally setting up my new groups, and have a few questions

 

1)? The best for you to start would be /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home.

2)? I don't believe a regular member has the archive download option since it's on the Settings page, only moderators with the proper permissions or owners that can get to that page can do it.

3)? Yes, once a group is made private, it can't be made public later.? Everything else is open to change.

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Re: Virus Detection?

 

That's a question you should probably ask [email protected].? I suspect there's some protection, but not sure what it would be.

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