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Re: #transfer #transfer

 

Hi all, I just started setting up to do a transfer from Yahoo to Groups IO I paid for the year subscription but the "set up new transfer" button did not show up. Where do I find this in the menu or how do I get to it if I have logged off. TIA
See the wiki -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

6. Where are instructions for transferring to groups.io?
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Detailed instructions using Easy Group Transfer (GMF)

Frances

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Re: Trouble with my group messages transfer

 

I got an email saying “messages” were transferred but when I went to the Group to which we specified everything be moved, there was zero old postings in there.
Margaret, has it sorted itself out?
Have the messages appeared?

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Re: Group Alias

 

Please see /g/GroupManagersForum/message/20563

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Re: #search engine problem #search

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 09:21 AM, Sarah Morse wrote:
I can't use the search function on my group and on the other groups that migrated.
The search indexer is lagging behind due to the importing of so many groups/messages, but it should catch up eventually.? Mark mentioned a few days ago that the indexer was crashing periodically from the load, so I'm sure he's working on it.

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Re: #search engine problem #search

 

?I can't use the search function on my group and on the other groups that migrated.

Sarah, it is to do with the huge transfer of groups and indexing.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/20714

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Re: Pleasure dealing with Groups.io

 

Our group that was started as a Yahoo group in 2002 migrated to groups.io in March 2018. It went so smoothly! We use almost every feature, have expanded membership significantly (about 1200 now), and have had very few glitches. I am so very pleased with groups.io.? Just recently when I noted a few things (hashtags, searches, for example) that are not working as usual, I came to this forum to see if others are experiencing the same issues. I see that there has been a major demand for transfers to groups.io that is taxing the system.? I am hopeful - confident - that things will get back to normal.The snafus are not affecting our most important functions.

Thanks for all you do everyone at groups.io.

Ro
Group Alias

Edward Borg
 

Hi Group;

I wanted to know what the "group alias" is for and how is it used.

Thanks;
Ed Borg
#search engine problem #search

 

Hi,
I just started a group and are part of many list servs that migrated over from yahoo this week.? I can't use the search function on my group and on the other groups that migrated. When I click on "search" and enter a word, nothing comes up even though I know there are messages with the word.? Any help? Wisdom?? My group members are asking me what's going on!? btw, I can successfully search this group.
thanks,
Sarah

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Re: Transferring a bunch of tiny groups

 

Thanks for your thought discussion on this
Re: Narrow formatting in Digests?

 

Sandi,

But a lot of factors enter into how things are displayed.
I use a host and their "responsive" templates for one my website
customers fills my Mac computer screen in my browsers ...
The problem is different in an email message. The Groups.io site is responsive, but attempting to build fully responsive code is probably impractical given what various email interfaces are willing to allow in an email body.

Fortunately I think what Phil wants wouldn't require responsive coding. It would be enough for the style of the HTML not to set a fixed column width.

This has been mentioned in beta previously. Phil could take it up there again, once the surge of Yahoo Group transfers is over.


In the mean time, Phil might try the Plain Text digest. It won't have a fixed column width (nor any other formatting).

Shal


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Re: BT + problem leads to ghost registration

 

Ken,

I am trying to help someone join my Group, but they have a BT email
address and so any attempt to join by email simply results in the
subscribe email being sent to the main Group address (as BT strips out
the +subscribe part) and is of course rejected.
As Chris said, that won't happen if they use their webmail interface rather than an SMTP client.

Trying to avoid the email route I asked him to try and subscribe via
the website, but when he enters his email address (required to
confirm) there is another error, stating that email address is already
registered and he needs to log in ...
That message says that he needs to use the Log In page, not the Sign Up page. He should believe what it is telling him.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

which is clearly impossible as he is NOT a member, so his address is
NOT registered ...
Your inference is incorrect. A membership (subscription) in a group is separate from whether the person's email address has been registered at Groups.io. A single address (account) can participate in multiple groups. And even if this person is not yet a member of any other groups, the account may exist as a result of prior attempts at joining a group.

and there’s no way he could ever have logged in previously and created
a password.
Again incorrect. You, as a group owner, cannot tell if they have or not - all you know is whether they've joined your group. The account exists independent of any group memberships, and even independent of whether the person ever logs in to use it.

Can anyone suggest how to clear this restriction or otherwise explain
what is going on and how to actually allow this person to join?
The person needs to use the Log In page. On that page select either the "Forgot your password, or don't have one yet?" link or the "Email Link To Log In" button - both do the same thing.

Once logged in to Groups.io, the person should be able to Join your group (or Request membership, if your group is restricted).

Shal


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Re: Narrow formatting in Digests?

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Sigh. That’s no doubt often true, but sad: “We can’t figure out our own technology, so we’re stuck with something dumb”. I sure hope that isn’t the case here!

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I’ve taken this to the Beta forum, as someone suggested; we’ll see whether it gets any traction. Of course they’re a tad bit busy right now.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandi D.
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 9:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Narrow formatting in Digests?

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I would agree.
But a lot of factors enter into how things are displayed.
I use a host and their "responsive" templates for one my website customers fills my Mac computer screen in my browsers but it does not fill the screen of my client's browser on his PC. Instead it displays white space on either side of "narrow text".?

It's sometimes far too labor intensive or difficult to discover what coding or client preference setting is preventing "a narrow window" from filling a specific display. While coders do their best for operating systems and programs/software it can sometimes be traced down to a user's preference setting somewhere.
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Re: BT + problem leads to ghost registration

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 08:13 AM, UKenGB wrote:
when he enters his email address (required to confirm) there is another error, stating that email address is already registered and he needs to log in which is clearly impossible as he is NOT a member
He can be registered (on the site) without belonging to any groups.? He can log in using the information at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

As Chris stated, there's a known problem with BT for emails that members send when it goes out through the synchronoss.net system, /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/34125793 using the web interface seems to avoid the problem.

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Re: Narrow formatting in Digests?

Sandi D.
 

I would agree.
But a lot of factors enter into how things are displayed.
I use a host and their "responsive" templates for one my website customers fills my Mac computer screen in my browsers but it does not fill the screen of my client's browser on his PC. Instead it displays white space on either side of "narrow text".?

It's sometimes far too labor intensive or difficult to discover what coding or client preference setting is preventing "a narrow window" from filling a specific display. While coders do their best for operating systems and programs/software it can sometimes be traced down to a user's preference setting somewhere.
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Re: Invite-to-membership time for Yahoo Group (in order to begin transfer)

John B
 

Its all pretty slow right now...? I think I read that accepting the invite requires a human -- probably the weekend didn't help...
Re: BT + problem leads to ghost registration

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 01:13 PM, UKenGB wrote:
Can anyone suggest how to clear this restriction or otherwise explain what is going on and how to actually allow this person to join?
Not for certain, no.

One thing he might try is to use his BT mail web UI; the stripping off of +whatever won't happen then. There is no guarantee that he won't encounter the same blockage but it is worth trying.

Chris.

PS: I am another BT mail user and have been caught up in this muddle for some time. BT don't seem over - keen on doing anything about it. :(
Re: Invite-to-membership time for Yahoo Group (in order to begin transfer)

 

I am assuming you correctly sent an invitation from your YahooGroup to the transfer agent email address. Not the other way round.

From the FAQ on moving from Yahoogroups:

11. How do I check the transfer status?
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Transfers are queued up when you first set it up and processed in that order until you get to Step 5.?
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At that point they are re-ordered based on when the transfer go-ahead is given and uploaded to groups.io in that order (unless you pay $200 for priority service).
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When you click on the green "Set Up New Transfer" button at bottom left of the Yahoo groups transfer page (/yahootransfer), a new page will come up where you can enter the source and destination group names.?
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There is also a series of checkboxes for the various areas of the group to transfer (files, photos, members, messages, etc). Simply uncheck the ones you don't want before clicking the "Start New Transfer Process" button.
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If you've already started a transfer, return to the Yahoo groups transfer page (/yahootransfer), select the transfer you've already started from the "Existing Transfers" list (pull down the menu and click on its name). On the resulting page you will see the same series of checkboxes. Uncheck the ones you don't want and then click the "Update Transfer" button. Actual transfer status for any ongoing transfer can be found in the status box at the top of the page.
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New (2019-10-23): more details now available. See
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New (2019-10-25) If you have started a Yahoo Group transfer, and the status is the message that starts "Make sure you have sent an invite to your group", that means that we have not received your invite yet and that you should send another one. That message will change automatically when we receive the invite and is not subject to the delays in other parts of the process are seeing.
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Re: Expedited Transfer Completed Very Quickly!

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Hi Isidro et al,
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I understand your problem but be patient. I sent my invitation to Groups.io on about Saturday, 19th October but didn’t get their membership listed until maybe the Monday morning, when
I was able to start the transfer process as per the procedure and that then worked well. I am sure that I sent Groups.io a second invite when I got impatient.
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The deadline for adding content to Yahoo groups is today, Monday, 28th October. I thought that maybe “adding content” might include adding members to the membership list, and therefore today would be the deadline for instigating transfers to Groups.io. Whether this is the case or not, many potential movers may assume that it is and Groups.io will probably be inundated with requests to transfer. This would explain why transfers are taking much longer now than they did 8 days ago. My advice to others has been: be patient. I am aware of other Yahoo groups in the queue to transfer.
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BTW, I sent a few messages to [email protected] but have yet to see any replies, so I guess that all the staff are working their socks off and GMF is a great way of getting around that problem. Lets keep up the good work of helping each other.
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Regards, Martin
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From: Isidro Berniol
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Expedited Transfer Completed Very Quickly!
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Thank you sharing your experience.

I have two groups awaiting transfer and I look very often if the status has changed because I feel responsible to all the users that gave me the trust to transfer the group...

So I'm a little bit nervous at all.

Isidro

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Am 28.10.2019 um 07:05 schrieb Dotty Bell:
The Easy Yahoo Group Transfer of my relatively small Yahoo Group (80 members, 13465 messages, 3622 photos, 162 files) was completed this afternoon.? After working my way through the multi-step process starting last weekend, I gave the "Go Ahead to Transfer" request late night Tuesday, Oct. 22.? I remained in Step 1 (waiting to download from Yahoo) until sometime on Friday, Oct. 25, when I reached Step 2 (download in progress).? By 9:30 a.m. Saturday, Oct. 26 I was at Step 3 (waiting to upload to Groups.io) with 395 groups in queue ahead of me.? As of 3 p.m. today, Sunday, Oct. 27, there were still 383 ahead of me.? I concluded that at approximately 10 groups per day, it might be 30 - 40 days before my transfer was completed.? (I did consider that Mark is putting more emphasis and resources on downloading content right now, with the timeline for the upload process being less critical.? If the demand for downloading slows with fewer new transfer requests, then perhaps the uploading can move more quickly, and the queue will move more quickly.)

Considering upcoming activities that will require my attention, I eventually decided to pay the additional $200 to Expedite my transfer.? I was unsure if that was indeed an option after the transfer had been started, but the "Expedite for $200" button was still at the bottom of the screen for that group, so I gave it a try.? Sure enough, my payment was accepted.? When I refreshed the page, immediately my status box reported "0 groups ahead in queue"!? I was surprised, as I expected there to be a fair number of expedited groups ahead of me.? About 1 1/2 hrs. later, at 4:30 p.m. I received the "Your Group Has Been Transferred" completion email, with details of the members and parts successfully transferred.? WOW!?

I realize the extra $200 cost of an expedited transfer is not affordable for many (or most) groups, especially those who were unable to upgrade to Premium at the $110 price.? But for any who are considering the expedite option, I can attest that it most definitely "sped up" the process!? I will still need to follow up on members who did not get transferred (because they had their email set as "Not Disclosed" in the Yahoo Group).? But that is not a priority at this time.? My main goal was to retain the 20+ years archived content before it was lost.

I do have another group transfer in progress in the queue at 366.? I have no plans to expedite that one.? It will be interesting to see just how long that one will take before the transfer is completed.

Dotty

Re: Invite-to-membership time for Yahoo Group (in order to begin transfer)

 

Check the status of your transfer.? If the invitation has been received, just wait.

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Re: Narrow formatting in Digests?

Phil Smith III
 

Um. If I wanted a narrow window, I'd have a narrow window. Why would I want whitespace on either side? You read your way, I read mine. That's the point of resizable windows, eh? Text should reflow.

It's not "normal" to force narrow columns.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 2:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Narrow formatting in Digests?

Phil,

> Ah, so you mean via Gmail or equivalent—interesting.

I read in Thunderbird, and your example looks normal to me as well.

I think the confusion here is that what you're calling "silly narrow
columns" is in fact exactly what the rest of us are calling normal.

That's based on your screenshot of the top of a digest: it looks normal.
The only thing unusual is the large window size you are displaying it
in. Yes, the scroll bar is out at the edge of the window, as it should be.

I've never used a WebTV, but sizer tells me that a minimum appropriate
window width for reading a digest is 820 pixels. Wider than that leaves
grey boarders of increasing width to either side.

To me, this seems like a normal, comfortable, reading width. Going wider
would make it more difficult for the eye to scan the lines,
significantly slowing (my) reading comprehension speed.

Shal


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