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Bret wrote: I've then taken that message file of over 31,000+ messages and upload those formats to the FILE section.? Folks can download it, browse it, search it with ease, print sections etc....? It's faster that way.? Not the Yahoo files section, I hope! That's going away. You need to put them someplace like Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive or similar. By the way, for Andrea's benefit, this is what the PGO HTML (web page) looks like: What I had proposed in a prior post was to add a Search box and links at the top for previous page, next page, and home page. Clicking each message number opens the link in your web browser. Larry |
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On 14 Nov 2019 22:09, Andrea wrote:
OK - I fear we have to do the PG4 download. But - yes, what to do with it afterwards?PG4 can only download the mails in its own format. PG4 is actually a message viewer, and the idea is that anyone who wants to read the mails should download the free version of PG4 and read the mails inside PG4. This is not very convenient, if you ask me. One nice feature of PG4 is its ability to export messages as HTML. But it can't export messages in a format that most e-mail programs can read. If you have a geek friend, I can recommend IgnoredAmbience's python scripts wholeheartedly: Samuel |
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Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment
#howto
#membernotices
#question
On 14 Nov 2019 16:56, Ann Wild via Groups.Io wrote:
I am wondering if there is a way to send them out to new members asI'm not sure how many members you are allowed to send a message to simultaneously, but if you go to Admin, then Members, then select all members, then click the Action button at the bottom of the page and choose "Send message", then that form *does* give you the option to add an attachment. Samuel -- Off-topic: your question prompted me to see if one can include an attachment in a member notice, but unfortunately since we can't access the message headers, we can't add attachments (e.g. in base64). You can add images directly into member notices, e.g.: < i m g src="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAIAAAACUFjqAAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAARnQU1BAACxjwv8YQUAAAAJcEhZcwAADsMAAA7DAcdvqGQAAAA6SURBVChTY3gro4IHgaT/f2LAihDSSht90BC6NMOiF3CEXfr/ST4gIlcajrBIoyEUaawIKo0TyagAAPL3kO0ip4wtAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC"> ...but then it's not an attachment, and you can't add PDFs this way anyway. -- |
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Re: Checking transfer status of group I co-own
On 14 Nov 2019 21:21, Jim Pruitt wrote:
I co-own a group.? The other owner paid the fee.It doesn't matter who paid the fee. What matters is that one of the owners start the transfer process, and the way I understand it, only that owner can then see what progress has been made or what steps were taken. So, you can't see at which step you currently are. This is how it worked with one group I'm co-owner of: the other owner paid the money, and then I took care of the transfer process. I do write an e-mail to the other owner at every step to tell him what has happened so far and what will happen next. Did your other owner not give you any progress report as things went by? I'm no expert at this, but since the steps are: Step 2 ¡ª Set Up and Start the Transfer Process Step 3 ¡ª Invite the Transfer Agent Step 4 ¡ª Promote the Transfer Agent to moderator Step 5 ¡ª Give the Go-Ahead for the Transfer Step 6 ¡ª Transfer Progress and Completion Check to see if the "transfer agent" has joined your Yahoogroup yet, and if so, whether he has been made a moderator. If not, then it means that your Yahoogroup's data hasn't been copied yet, and I **guess wildly** that that might mean that you (as other owner) may be able to initiate the transfer process from scratch (i.e. starting from step 2 again): /edittransfer?start=1 Now he is in the hospital or at least unavailable. ... We have seen no progress to indicate that anything has been done.Here's an idea: does his wife have access to his e-mail? If so (and if he or she agrees), let Groups.io send him a login link by you visiting the login page and typing in his e-mail address: /sendloginlink ...and then forwarding you that e-mail, so that you can log in under his name. I found it very odd that a co-owner can't see the transfer progress...I agree, it's odd and inconvenient. Samuel |
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Andrea,
Our group has a similar issue.? Since 2009 nobody has heard from the YG owner.? Even the moderator who was left had limited abilities to do anything.? AND, YG would not move the ownership over to the moderator.? Our only option then was to use PGOffline to pull all the data, photos and messages from our YG location.? This saves it to your PC hard drive.? One can then re-upload all of the content files and photos with ease. At this moment in time, it's unknown how to upload the messages in PGOffline to Groups.io.? I did hear the 4 person team who wrote PGOffline may have a solution in the future.? BUT, our group actually to the direction to SAVE the message data to an HTML file, then a CSV file and a .ods file and finally an extended Excel file for Office 2013+ as .xlsx? I've then taken that message file of over 31,000+ messages and upload those formats to the FILE section.? Folks can download it, browse it, search it with ease, print sections etc....? It's faster that way.? So, our group has saved EVERYTHING as members as the owner is AWOL and the moderator is now up in his senior retired years.? We started from the 1980s on Prodigy then moved to GeoCities, then to Yahoo Groups and now Groups.io.? We are the 2nd largest tractor group on the YG site.? Much of us are homestead farmers. lol? what do we know about computers.? haha ? |
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Re: Question about moderated messages
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There is a wiki page about moderation that has this:?
Claimed messages: ?If you ?open a message to moderate, a Claimed tag with your name will appear.
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You can edit the message and then save it to look again after an edit.?
You complete the approval / moderation of a message by clicking save and approve.
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No one can approve or reject a claimed pending message by email, but working on the web the claim only gives other moderators a warning - it doesn't actually prevent other moderators from "jumping your claim".
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This is why it is unnecessary to have a way to remove the claim - if you become unable to ultimately approve or delete/reject the pending message, another moderator can step in and do it for you. Hopefully that's an infrequent occurrence.
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-- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment
#howto
#membernotices
#question
On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:13 AM, Ann Wild wrote:
i just need to figure out the best way to get new members to read the Guidelines. ?Right now I am sending out private emails with the Guidelines attached as a pdf file, ?but I was hoping for a more automated method through groups.io.Just re-read your original post. You were aware of some of the functions of Guidelines already. Sorry.? Since you can get a URL for Guidelines on your group homepage and the Welcome notice allows you to add a link to it, could that work? That would be automated. Frances ? -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Re: Can I Send Group Guidelines as an Attachment
#howto
#membernotices
#question
On 14 Nov 2019 16:56, Ann Wild via Groups.Io wrote:
Our group's Guidelines are long, so I am wondering if there is a way to send them out to new members as an attachment through groyps.io?I wonder if this would work (can't try it, sorry): upload the guidelines as a file and then select the option "notify members" when uploading the file. It won't be an attachment but it'll contain a link to the file. Samuel |
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Re: Removing the Blue or Red Bounce Indicators
#bouncedemails
If the member is a member of another group on Groups.io, and the email address isn't changed there, I understand that the B won't disappear. As someone mentioned, you can check the account activity. Go to Members and use the buttons along the top - Activity, Email Delivery.
I hope you saw this too: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Dealing-with-Bouncing Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Well, you can't, at this point, have them as a message archive as you would if you were transferred.
See this from the FAQ on transferring -? 10. What are my alternatives to paying for the Premium Yearly plan?
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(a) Moving members yourself:
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You can Upgrade your group to the Premium for one month plan ($20 USD) in order to upload a list of members (Direct Add). However everything else would need to be copied manually.
Details:
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On the Basic plan (free) you can upload a list of members to the Invite page. Similar to a Yahoo Group, it sends an invitation to each email address and the invitee must receive and respond to the invitation before they are added to the Members list.
To obtain a list of your Yahoo Group members you can go to the Manage Members page and in the Actions menu Export (download) a csv or tsv format file. It is best to open the file in a spreadsheet like Excel, then you can easily copy the Email column to paste into the Direct Add or Invite page. Note: this is only for groups with 1000 or fewer members, due to Yahoo's Export restriction.
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Send a message to your YahooGroups members on YahooGroups inviting them to join your new home. Include the URL. Or tell them to send a blank email to the Subscribe email address found at the bottom of your group's home page (that is, [GROUPNAME][email protected] ?substituting the real group name for GROUPNAME). Since you won't be using a G.io invitation, you may have trouble tracking members who don't respond.?
(b) Moving message archive, photos, etc. yourself:
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You can download content from Yahoo - see /g/GroupManagersForum/message/19430?
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There are a few third-party solutions to do that, including PG OFFLINE, and a
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The problem is what to do with the message archive once downloaded; as there is really no good way to re-upload it to groups.io, to re-link individual messages to their owners, or to provide online message search capability. ?It's not the same as a transfer and loses "ownership", but Lena has a way to get the messages into the archive, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251?
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An option is simply to print the collection of old messages to a PDF file; at which point you can upload that to the files area of your group. That will give you something, even if it isn't conveniently indexed and searchable.
Currently ?(Nov 2019), the only way to have the correct ownership for files is to have the owner upload it.
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(c) Photos and files:
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You'd need to move them manually if you're not paying for a transfer. ?It can be time consuming and "ownership" of all the items will be in your name. ?If the person that originally uploaded a picture is on the new group, you can manually assign ownership to them (if you know who it was.) ?There's currently not a similar function for Files.
-- Frances FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
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Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download
#yahooprivacydashboard
#ioimportpl
Most of our members had gotten the 'no data' as well.? That's when we knew to jump onto the PGOffline tool after reading the PGOffline forums and how well the software worked.?
We were able to grab ALL of our data, files, messages, photos, database, etc.? Then there were spin off groups over the years, 3 of them actually.? We didn't have to pay again or again or again to snag all of the spin off groups.? Next we took all of the messages and saved them as archive FILES.? HTML, .ods, .csv, and .xlsx? This way, a person can search and filter to a certain topic, subject or keyword(s) very quickly.? Actually faster than poking around on Yahoo for the most part. |
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