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Re: moving from subgroup to main group #transfer #howto

 

Eva,

I cannot start a new transfer.. I get this error message:
That Yahoo Group is already a part of another transfer.
Have you resolved this yet?

As Bruce and Duane mentioned, that prior (or current) transfer must be deleted before you can start a new one from that Yahoo Group.

That could have been yourself, yourself logged in using a different email address, or someone else. If you can't figure out who it is, then only support can help you.

I've written Mark directly with no answer.
I'm not sure what you mean by "directly", but if you have already upgraded your destination Group to Premium Yearly then you should receive priority response from [email protected]. But even so it may be a while, as there's apparently quite a backlog.

I'm fine with deleting the subgroup if I could get the information
into the main group.
I don't see how that could be helpful.

You should target the transfer for whichever Groups.io primary or subgroup you intend to contain the content of the Yahoo Group - there's no easy way to move content between groups and/or subgroups.

Shal


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Re: Can we disable replies to a posting?

 

Duane wrote:
...moderated, not just the first one.? Amazing how quickly people are willing to learn when it gets in their way.? I have 2 people that are on permanent moderation because they still haven't learned (and apparently don't care because 90% of their posts get rejected.)?

Great if it works for you. I'm not sure I want to spend that much time moderating, especially if groups.io could fix this with a 5-minute code change. I'm still waiting to see full headers from someone who has set the appropriate options.

Larry
find members by status

 

Is there a way to list all members by "NC" status? I do see the option to list "Banned" and "Bouncing" members.

Thanks,
Su
announce@.. list Replies to discuss@... list?

 

I've got a newly ported list from Yahoo; and overall we're quite happy. Only one technical issue so far. I've dug into the docs, and archives of this list, and haven't found an answer yet.

I made an announce@... list, with a subgroup of discuss@... and ported everybody into the discussion list. They are automatically also in the announce@ list.
The announcements will be moderated and hopefully a few messages a week tops. People can easily leave the discussion list and remain in the announcements list.

Replies to announcements should be sent to the discussion list. There isn't a setting for this.?As is, I've and set the list to be moderated, disabled the footer link to "Reply to Group" and I've set footer text to tell people to reply to discuss@... I have a suspicion we're going to be dealing with a number of people who still forget to reply onto the discussion list. I haven't experimented with a clean workflow for this.

I know we could have done this with a single list, and either "special messages" or perhaps an "announce" tag, but these seem to me would require more user education.?

This feels like a standard situation, of wanting a separate discussion and announcements list. Any good options?

Thanks,
Daniel
Re: Links in digest

 

Thanks, Duane.

Frances, I know about that. I'm not sure how it relates to my question, though.

Su
Collaborating on documents

 

I don't think there's a way to collaborate on documents within Groups.io but I'm wondering if there is a clean way to connect to a google drive folder or some other such.

Thanks,
Su
Re: Can we disable replies to a posting?

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 04:57 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
Too many posts about educating users.
Well, GIO isn't YG (thankfully), so users and moderators will need to learn the way things work here.? On my groups, I post the rules when they join, as well as monthly.? For anyone that can't follow them, all of their posts get moderated, not just the first one.? Amazing how quickly people are willing to learn when it gets in their way.? I have 2 people that are on permanent moderation because they still haven't learned (and apparently don't care because 90% of their posts get rejected.)? Not bad out of ~2000 members.

Duane
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Re: Can we disable replies to a posting?

 

Yes, but who actually reads those, except for the firs time. I will admit I never do and mark all of those as read. Even theeones to my own lists I run.

Blessings.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. .

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On 19 Nov 2019, at 12:31, VickieS wrote:

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Regarding your concern about education being on going due to new members, there is a monthly message option that you could send to your group to educate them every month.?
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Re: New Member "Not Confirmed"

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 07:25 PM, Charles Roberts wrote:
So, what does it mean when a New member is badged as "NC"?? How is to be fixed?
It's not broken. New accounts have to respond to some kind of groups.io email to demonstrate that they actually own that address and want groups.io emails to be delivered there.?See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/18691?for info.

Bruce
New Member "Not Confirmed"

 

So, what does it mean when a New member is badged as "MC"?? How is to be fixed?
Tks,
Chuck
Re: Links in digest

 

The Groups.io help and linked to the wiki says:

Email Delivery
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The Email Delivery options control how you wish to receive group emails.
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Individual Messages will send each email individually, as soon as it's posted.
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Full Featured Digest will group the days messages into batches of 12 and send each batch when the twelvth is posted. Any that remain at the end of the day will be sent as the final (or only) digest of the day. The digests include the full text of each message, omitting any quotes of prior messages. Full Featured Digests include at the top a list of the enclosed topics, clickable as links to take you to that topic.
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Plain Digest works the same way, but is sent as a text/plain email message, with no clickable links.
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Daily Summary sends a once-daily list of topics posted that day. Unlike the digests the summary does not include the text of any of the messages, only the list of topics.
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Special Notices Only sends only those messages which a moderator has designated as a Special Notice.
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No Email (not available in all groups) sends no posted messages to you by email. You may still receive individual notifications from the group and/or from Groups.io.

Source:
/static/help#subscription-options

Frances
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Re: Links in digest

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 05:44 PM, Su wrote:
The only solution I can think of then is to tell members about it. Any other ideas?
If they get in the habit of copy/paste instead of forward, it would solve the problem.? A learning curve, but not that steep.

Duane
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Re: Links in digest

 

That would explain it, thanks. Most of the time, that is a very good thing.

The only solution I can think of then is to tell members about it. Any other ideas?

Su
Re: Links in digest

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Su wrote:
So does the digest just trim off the entire forwarded part?
Digest trims off anything it believes to be quoted material, including forwarded messages.

Duane
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Re: Links in digest

 

Thanks, Bruce. Here's my answers to your questions.

Was the message completely missing from the digest? If so, I suspect the receiver had previously muted that topic, perhaps inadvertently. Have her check the entries at?/topics?m=1
No. She received the top part (the new part) but not the forwarded part of that email.

It could also be that the message was deleted before the digest was compiled. If so, those on Individual Emails would have received it but the Digest people might not.
No, it's still on there.

If the message was present but the link missing, it could be that it was in the middle of an iframe or a web form or some other prohibited html construct. Generally speaking anyone who gets into the habit of forwarding html emails can expect some things to disappear.
Hmm, I checking .... I dodn't see anything fancy in there. Definitely no iFrames or anything like that. It actually looks like plain text plus a link, to me. With of course the obligatory MS characters that display weirdly on Firefox and Thunderbird.

If something else is going on, we'll need more details; including some information on whether the poster and receiver were the same person.
No, poster (P) and receiver (R) are different individuals. More info:
When I view the original post on the web interface, I see something like this:

I thought I sent this last Friday, but I sent it to myself. Maybe I took too many pain pills? But I believe this is a very important topic for us.
~P

Begin forwarded message:
[Show quoted text]

The digest shows the same thing, minus the [Show quoted text] button.

So does the digest just trim off the entire forwarded part?

Su
Re: Links in digest

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Su wrote:
Recently, a subscriber had a problem. One of the messages in the digest was about an article the poster recommended, but the link to the article was missing.

I asked the member to send me the digest, which she did. Going from there, I discovered that the poster had forwarded the message to the group, and the link (and most of the info) was in that forwarded message. This (the forwarded message) was removed from the digest, explaining the member's problem.

So ... why is this happening? Any solutions for the future?
Su -- Was the message completely missing from the digest? If so, I suspect the receiver had previously muted that topic, perhaps inadvertently. Have her check the entries at?/topics?m=1

It could also be that the message was deleted before the digest was compiled. If so, those on Individual Emails would have received it but the Digest people might not.

If the message was present but the link missing, it could be that it was in the middle of an iframe or a web form or some other prohibited html construct. Generally speaking anyone who gets into the habit of forwarding html emails can expect some things to disappear.

If something else is going on, we'll need more details; including some information on whether the poster and receiver were the same person.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: Can we disable replies to a posting?

 

Too many posts about educating users. The OP said it didn't work and I agree. I regularly pruned our Yahoo group to delete the inadvertent personal messages and I never could educate the users, even the repeat offenders..

The real problem comes from email users--99% of all users. It's an email. John Doe sent it. They want to respond to John. So they hit Reply in their mail agent?just as they would for any other email. They never look at the choices at the bottom of the email.

Setting a Reply-To tag in the header of the email (not visible in most mailers unless you select "View raw email" or "Display full headers) should work if it's done properly. If someone want to set that option and post full headers of an email like that, we can look at it. Set the option to display full? headers and copy/paste it into a post here.

Larry
Links in digest

 

Recently, a subscriber had a problem. One of the messages in the digest was about an article the poster recommended, but the link to the article was missing.

I asked the member to send me the digest, which she did. Going from there, I discovered that the poster had forwarded the message to the group, and the link (and most of the info) was in that forwarded message. This (the forwarded message) was removed from the digest, explaining the member's problem.

So ... why is this happening? Any solutions for the future?

Thanks,
Su
Re: Can we disable replies to a posting?

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 05:24 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
One thing puzzles me; in configuring a Hashtag there is a Reply To setting which has several options; one is Reply to sender and another is Reply only to sender. For the life of me I am hard pressed to see the difference; please don't tell me it is glaringly obvious...:)
With respect to the hashtags, "Reply to Sender" does what the Reply-To field in the group settings does...set the message header field. "Reply Only to Sender" actually blocks?any replies that come back to the group, effectively locking the topic.

Bruce
Re: Can we disable replies to a posting?

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:08 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
...but a certain hashtag makes all replies to that one topic go "reply to sender", or vice
versa), but I have been unable to achieve this in my tests. In fact, I have been unable to get "reply to sender" to work at all -- all test e-mails for which I hit the "reply" button in my mail program gets sent
back to the list, and the original sender's e-mail address is nowhere.
Curious... I have just done some tests elsewhere and things worked as I would have expected.. On an "ordinary" message both Reply to Group and Reply to Sender are present in the received email's footer. Reply to Sender automatically inserts the sender's email address in the "To" field of my email client. (Outlook 2003!) A test message hashtagged as Reply to Sender arrived with no Reply to Group (correct!) and the Reply to Sender in the footer inserted the sender's name in the "To" field again. (Correct!) Clicking on Outlook's "Reply" also produced the sender's address in the "To" field. (Correct!) The web UI was also correctly configured.

One thing puzzles me; in configuring a Hashtag there is a Reply To setting which has several options; one is Reply to sender and another is Reply only to sender. For the life of me I am hard pressed to see the difference; please don't tell me it is glaringly obvious...:)

Samuel; what email client are you using? Is it some oddity in its behaviour that is upsetting things?

Chris
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