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Re: Basic question: using groups.io address #access

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:15 AM, Karen Peteros wrote:
I don't k now what "an announcement group" means.? Any recommendations to help me get messages through?
On the Settings page for the group, scroll down to the Spam Control area.? You'll see that the "Announcement Group" box is checked.? Uncheck that and choose one of the other options, then scroll to the bottom and click Update Group.

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Re: Still possible to get Yahoo Transfer of Message Archive? #yahoo #transfer

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:05 AM, Doug Raymond wrote:
The only omission is that message attachments cannot be restored, as everyone knows.
If the attachments are of value, and you don't mind some extra work, you may be able to get them back if you have copies of them.? It won't be as smooth, but at least they'll be there.? Upload the attachments into the Files section, then go to each message that had an attachment and edit it to include a link to the proper file.

Duane
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Re: Basic question: using groups.io address #access

 

Thanks.? I deleted the old yahoogroups address from my Contacts, and typed our address into my email.? I sent a test message and did find a notation under Activity:

ActivityCreated?
Member?Karen <kpeteros@...>?attempted to send message "test" to an announcement group via email
I don't k now what "an announcement group" means.? Any recommendations to help me get messages through?

Thanks for any help you can offer!


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 10:22 AM Samuel Murray <samuelmurray@...> wrote:
On 14/01/2020 18:09, Karen Peteros wrote:

> I have tried doing this with our address but
> the emails keep bouncing back "permanent error."

Could you tell us the name of your group and the e-mail address that you
were trying to send a message to?

If you go to your group in the browser and go Admin > Activity, do you
see anything that indicates that your test message was received?

Samuel
Re: Still possible to get Yahoo Transfer of Message Archive? #yahoo #transfer

 

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Thank you, this has all been done, promptly and correctly by the friendly service at groups.io.support.

I am very grateful.

The only omission is that message attachments cannot be restored, as everyone knows.

I recommend the import service. Our members are very grateful, almost lost their 20 year database of messages at Yahoo.

Case closed.

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Doug

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bryan Jones
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 11:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Still possible to get Yahoo Transfer of Message Archive? #yahoo #transfer

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"Easy Transfer" is no longer available, in that it was a "service" that included fully everything: migrating messages, users, files, photos, etc.

However, following on what Duane directed you to look at, groups.io does provide a service to import ONLY the messages in a nicely formatted, searchable, threaded result.? If you can request (before they end it) the "get my data" request with Yahoo, you will get a zip file that contains all the messages from the legacy group in an "MBOX" format.? You can provide that (through FTP, dropbox, whatever) to groups.io support, and they can import the messages.?

NOTE:? This is only available to groups with Premium (and higher) paid support. You would send a request to [email protected]?to begin the process.? If you intend doing this DO NOT DELAY in making the "get my data" request from Yahoo!??


If you'd like to see what the results can look like, go here:??
That is a subgroup of our main group created to hold the legacy archive of Yahoo messages, since we had some delay in getting access to the Yahoo group owner, and thus the groups.io main group had a fair amount of topic traffic before we could get the import done.? So we put it into a subgroup to prevent combining it all.? Theoretically I suppose you could import it into your existing group, but I don't know how it would appear.? I know the DATES get loaded properly from the legacy messages, but the MESSAGE NUMBERS can only increment... so you could end up with higher message numbers on older messages.? Not sure how much negative effect that might cause, if any.

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Bryan
Re: #Ban, desperate, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!

 

Can you just send her an email and tell her she's not welcome in your group, you will continue to remove her and ban her, it's a waste of everyone's time so just stop. The pending approval suggestion is good so you can just reject her right away.? That way you know it's her before you let her in.? The last option would be to put all new members on moderate, and when she shows herself, ban her before her post can hit the group.

I don't think it's worth getting upset over, it's aggravating for sure, but not a reason to avoid your group.? Eventually, she'll catch on and go drive someone else crazy.

Terri
Re: Still possible to get Yahoo Transfer of Message Archive? #yahoo #transfer

 
Edited

"Easy Transfer" is no longer available, in that it was a "service" that included fully everything: migrating messages, users, files, photos, etc.

However, following on what Duane directed you to look at, groups.io does provide a service to import ONLY the messages in a nicely formatted, searchable, threaded result.? If you can request (before they end it) the "get my data" request with Yahoo, you will get a zip file that contains all the messages from the legacy group in an "MBOX" format.? You can provide that (through FTP, dropbox, whatever) to groups.io support, and they can import the messages.?

NOTE:? This is only available to groups with Premium (and higher) paid support. You would send a request to [email protected]?to begin the process.? If you intend doing this DO NOT DELAY in making the "get my data" request from Yahoo!??


If you'd like to see what the results can look like, go here:??
That is a subgroup of our main group created to hold the legacy archive of Yahoo messages, since we had some delay in getting access to the Yahoo group owner, and thus the groups.io main group had a fair amount of topic traffic before we could get the import done.? So we put it into a subgroup to prevent combining it all.? Theoretically I suppose you could import it into your existing group, but I don't know how it would appear.? I know the DATES get loaded properly from the legacy messages, but the MESSAGE NUMBERS can only increment... so you could end up with higher message numbers on older messages.? Not sure how much negative effect that might cause, if any.

EDIT:? Re-reading your original post, I see you said you already made the Yahoo request for your data.? Excellent.

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Bryan
Re: Geographic blocking may sometimes stop groups.io emails as spam. #email #spam

RickGlaz-WEB
 

I did a deep dive on the origins of the .io TLD.
Very interesting what happened.
Even though the British had a big role in things way back,
it is basically not used by "only" one country...
(Or JUST those Islands.)
The filtering method used is bogus...

Rick

On January 17, 2020 at 10:09 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 09:40 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:


I tracked groups.io emails coming into my organization, and they all came
from a single IP that, when I perform my own geo lookup, is identified as
coming from California.?However when their IT group researched the blocked
emails, they?determined that Mimecast was identifying the source IP for
the groups.io emails as originating from Hong Kong.
Yes, io is a top-level domain for the "British Indian Ocean Territory," which may at one time have included Hong Kong. If a receiving provider uses very crude geographic filtering (tld instead of IP address), it could be a problem, and the subscriber needs to find a provider that doesn't.

Personally, I consider groups.io to be a global community...no one is a "foreigner." In that context the filtering of messages on such a basis seems rather absurd.

Regards,
Bruce
Re: Geographic blocking may sometimes stop groups.io emails as spam. #email #spam

 

Bruce,

Mimecast is not a "crude" provider of anti-spam/virus filtering. It's one of the industry best.

Regardless of your perspective of the mission of groups.io, you have to respect the needs of every organization to implement protections against malicious email.? Fully 4 out of 5 of all emails on the internet are garbage - any organization NOT implementing protections against that is what I'd characterize as "absurd".

My message was posted as a bit of a "PSA" to help moderators who may be seeing bounced emails due to anti-spam filtering such as this (particularly when they're interacting with people who are using their professional/business email when the group membership is relevant to their professional responsibilities), so as to help them understand that in many cases it will require a collaborative effect, involving the recipient's IT support, to resolve undeliverables.? It's easy to blame groups.io when something doesn't deliver... as someone who has performed systems administration for email systems for decades, I can say that it's FAR more often that email delivery problems are the result of issues on the recipient's side, than it is a result of issues on the sender's side.

I really enjoy the fact that the groups.io platform exposes the errors encountered when bounces occur... it gives me the information needed to take it to the next step.

Regards,
Bryan
Re: Moving pictures

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:12 AM, Jackie Preval wrote:
I'm trying to move pics from monthly albums to one for year but it's taking ages one at a time. Is there a way to move all pics in album at once?
Jackie --?You could download them using the Export Group Data function and then re-upload them en masse to the desired destination. However, this will lose photo "ownership," upload date/timestamp, etc (it will be reassigned to whoever does the upload, when it was done, etc). The only way to move them while retaining this metadata is to do so one at a time.?

By combining monthly albums into one you are already compromising album ownership, so perhaps such considerations are unimportant. If not, go for it.

Bruce
Re: What are the issues we may face with Direct Adding members? #direct

 

To clarify, do you mean by bulk transfer, a CSV file of subscribers to send an invite to?

Or using the paid for option which I cannot comment on as I haven't used it

If the former, yes it does

Its a very good system

If anyone is already subscribed, it does not send to them

After sending at the top of the invites page is a summary of how many were sent and how many weren't and the reason

At any point after the sending you can select "sent invitations"

Which tells you who were sent invites and when, and their status

Status could be Sent, Accepted , Failed

You can select any not Accepted and repeat the invite, or for failed you can remove them

An excellent system IMHO

Ah I see you have the answer on bulk transfer

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 17/01/2020 15:59, Jeff Coleman via Groups.Io wrote:
If you have already got a small number of members in a group using Invite, then use Direct Transfer to bulk add a lot more, does it ignore the email addresses of people who are already members?
Jeff
Moving pictures

 

Hi I'm trying to move pics from monthly albums to one for year but it's taking ages one at a time. Is there a way to move all pics in album at once? Thanks
Re: What are the issues we may face with Direct Adding members? #direct

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:03 AM, Jeff Coleman wrote:
If you have already got a small number of members in a group using Invite, then use Direct Transfer to bulk add a lot more, does it ignore the email addresses of people who are already members?
Yes, both Invite and Direct Add will skip over any addresses that are already in the Member List.

Bruce
Re: What are the issues we may face with Direct Adding members? #direct

 

If you have already got a small number of members in a group using Invite, then use Direct Transfer to bulk add a lot more, does it ignore the email addresses of people who are already members?
Jeff
Re: Geographic blocking may sometimes stop groups.io emails as spam. #email #spam

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 09:40 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
I tracked groups.io emails coming into my organization, and they all came from a single IP that, when I perform my own geo lookup, is identified as coming from California.?However when their IT group researched the blocked emails, they?determined that Mimecast was identifying the source IP for the groups.io emails as originating from Hong Kong.??
Yes, io is a top-level domain for the "British Indian Ocean Territory," which may at one time have included Hong Kong. If a receiving provider uses very crude geographic filtering (tld instead of IP address), it could be a problem, and the subscriber needs to find a provider that doesn't.

Personally, I consider groups.io to be a global community...no one is a "foreigner." In that context the filtering of messages on such a basis seems rather absurd.

Regards,
Bruce
Re: Messages not getting through

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 08:39 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Having recently 'ported' the Group from Yahoo I am being contacted by members who cannot post.? I have redone invitations etc., but this hasn't helped.? They are seen as members in the database.
Have these people CC you at your home address next time so you can check for proper addressing. If they haven't updated their address book, most likely they are still sending messages to @yahoogroups.com instead of @groups.io

Bruce
Re: Error: smtpin.zoho.com: 541 5.4.1 Mail rejected by destination domain

RickGlaz-WEB
 

Seems there is a problem on the "other end"...

For an "alternate" and other reasons, I keep a Gmail address
waiting in the wings that I can use when things get flaky.
(Or so that/they can store my "archive"s off-site.)

Might be a "workaround"?

Rick
PS: My own hosting service was having problems recently.

(I read and post from different sorts of WEBmail or the Group site poster page.)

On January 17, 2020 at 4:15 AM Ivor Trueman <ivor@...> wrote:


All emails to one of my groups members are bouncing. From the Email Delivery they all have "smtpin.zoho.com: 541 5.4.1 Mail rejected by destination domain" listed as the reason & under the most recent unsuccessful attempt it states "smtpin.zoho.com: read tcp4 66.175.222.12:39628->8.39.54.120:25: i/o timeout".

It is a problem at the groups.io end, or a problem with zoho.com? How can I resolve the issue?

Many thanks
Ivor
Re: Messages not getting through

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 07:39 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Having recently 'ported' the Group from Yahoo I am being contacted by members who cannot post.
If no one can post, other than owner/mod, you may have the group set to Announcement Only.? If it's only some, check a few member records to make sure they're allowed to post.

Duane
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Re: Unclaim pending member?

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 07:38 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Can a moderator also unclaim a pending member?
No.? That's an advisory notice.? If you're online and someone else has claimed a member (or email), you can go ahead and override it by completing your action (approve, reject, etc.)

Duane
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Re: Messages not getting through

Gerald Boutin
 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 09:39 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Having recently 'ported' the Group from Yahoo I am being contacted by members who cannot post.? I have redone invitations etc., but this hasn't helped.? They are seen as members in the database.

Is there a quick 'fix' I'm missing? ?

Tony Smith
Tony,

One possible scenario would be that the members are using a different email address than what they were registered for in Yahoo groups.

If so, you can look in Admin / Activity for "Non-member message" activities.?The results would look like this:

Non-member support@... attempted to send message "Your account has been temporary suspended." via email

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Re: #Ban, desperate, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!

 

No, you cannot ban names.

But you can create a "pending subscription" notice in your settings that requires a response in order to be approved. In my group this notice asks for a name and address (we're a residents-only group), and the moderators do not approve a subscription request unless someone responds to that notice.

Pete
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