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If the legally required information is expressed concisely in a footer, similar (to but not exactly the same as) the footer that appears at the bottom of this message, then the narrative part could be

/On 2023-06-13 13:41, Peter S. Shenkin via groups.io wrote:// / You can suggest changes or whatnot regarding this in the beta <https://beta.groups.io/g/main> group, that's where new features, bugs,

I expect it's a matter of legal risk avoidance.? Depending on jurisdiction, Groups.io could be held responsible for the legal text, which they cannot control unless they force its inclusion.

Right now, it is the middle of the official message, neither before nor after it. But I don't see why official wording is needed at all, just as long as the required information is present. And as I

It states it ( /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/direct-add-notice ) quite clearly to me. In order to even have a chance at a change, you'd have to request it on the

I already said that I included all the information (as far as I know) in my own message, which I expected would replace the officialese. There is nothing I saw in the documentation that said that the

What I think would help is if the added message would appear above the default text, not under it. With our small-screen, short-attention-span environment, the first impression is "What is this stuff.

My group is not a discussion group. I have my group set to an announcement group with all new postings by me only and all responses to my postings to me only. This is appropriate for this situation. I

Based on most interpretations of worldwide law, the "officialese" has to come first so folks can easily leave if they want.? Of course, spammers don't pay any attention to minor things like laws.

You're confusing two notices, Welcome and Direct Add.? Welcome is sent when someone joins your group on their own or you add them, Direct Add is only used when you add them.? There is a default

I might add that this entire problem could be finessed by concisely?adding the required information in a footer, rather?than embedding the group owner's original message in a morass of officialese.

I did include the information you refer to in my own Direct Add massage. I noted in my posting that the GMF welcome message does not include the boilerplate welcome, and was told in a response to my

Peter, I have another suggestion for you. I think it might be a good idea to explain to your group what a list serve is and how it works. Many people ?who are unfamiliar with the “every email goes

For legal reasons, the Direct Add message must notify each subscriber that they're now in your group and give them a chance to opt out. Groups.io cannot assume you'll include such information in your

Just thought of that, it may had been the browser's autocomplete feature messing this up somehow, I had this happen a few times in other sites where I thought I had cleared the field using backspace

Hi, I followed the instructions to create my own Direct Add message, but when I do a Direct Add, the message I created appears within the default message. My own message is the italicized part of the

Hi, I had stated that when I empty out the Subject Tag field and press Update Group, the default tag reappears. Indeed, as several suggested, I must have been doing something wrong, because when I

I laughed, because I can't get people on my lists TO quote anything, so many replies lack context. Be careful what you wish for!

I am a bit puzzled - so you use different email addresses for different groups? Well, first of all, since you can get online to this group, go to the top right corner where you will see a username.

For some reason my emails for the computer forum are not being received at jocaan@....? They are instead being misdirected and going to an old email address that I do not use for computer