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Re: Files moved but are empty
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Ilene,
?If these are files that are intended to be readable online, like regular web pages, you might be happier copying their content into Wiki pages.
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?No, you cannot. The Edit function in Groups.io's Files does not include the file content. You view the content by opening the file (if your browser supports that file type) or downloading it.
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?Correct. That functionality has been discussed in the "suggestion box" group, , but not implemented. Instead you must create the file on your computer and upload it.
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?Groups.io does not have a scheduling option for files. Here you do that either with Member Notices (a tab in your group's Settings page) for notices to be sent on various events such a joining or leaving a group, or with calendar Events if you just want to send the notice periodically.
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Shal
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Why does Log In change the site?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýShal, I?ve seen you are online. I have a question: ? when I open the site of one of my groups and I want to log in, why does that site disappear and the selection of the groups I am subscribed to appears instead although I already was on the site of the group I want to log into? ? Same I am told by members who are subscribed only to one group. They say each time the go on the site of the group, log in, the site changes and they must select it again. Why the detour? ? ? Victoria ? ? ? |
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Re: Files moved but are empty
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIlene, Shal wrote: Here you do that either with Member Notices (a tab in your group's Settings page) for notices to be sent on various events such a joining or leaving a group, or with calendar Events if you just want to send the notice periodically. I had the same issue when I first got my group started because we also have periodical notices that are important to be sent. I made very good experience with the calender function. There I put in all the notices that I want to be sent out regularly, and it works very well. Victoria |
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Re: Files moved but are empty
Ilene,
?Our messages "crossed in the mail". For these purposes see my note about Member Notices, and our wiki page.? Wiki pages are not appropriate for notices to be sent to members.
? ?Correct. Here those features are handled differently.?
?Copy that file content into a ?Welcome member notice.
?Copy that file content into a ?Goodbye member notice.
?Copy that file content into a Pending Subscription member notice.
?For the special case of group guidelines sent on join and/or monthly, see the Guidelines member notice.? ?Shal? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Files moved but are empty
Ilene, ?If these are files that are intended to be readable online, like regular web pages, you might be happier copying their content into Wiki pages. Pro:
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?No, you cannot. The Edit function in Groups.io's Files does not include the file content. You view the content by opening the file (if your browser supports that file type) or downloading it. ?
?Correct. That functionality has been discussed in the "suggestion box" group, , but not implemented. Instead you must create the file on your computer and upload it. ?
?Groups.io does not have a scheduling option for files. Here you do that either with Member Notices (a tab in your group's Settings page) for notices to be sent on various events such a joining or leaving a group, or with calendar Events if you just want to send the notice periodically. ? Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Files moved but are empty
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? You can't edit files online.? You have to download each file, make any edits, and upload.? If you don't change the filename, you'll need to delete the originals before uploading since duplicates aren't allowed.? Ot you can put the updated files in another folder.Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions ? |
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Re: Files moved but are empty
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? You can't edit files online.? You have to download each file, make any edits, and upload.? If you don't change the filename, you'll need to delete the originals before uploading since duplicates aren't allowed.? Ot you can put the updated files in another folder.Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions ? |
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Re: Files moved but are empty
You can't edit files online.? You have to download each file, make any edits, and upload.? If you don't change the filename, you'll need to delete the originals before uploading since duplicates aren't allowed.? Ot you can put the updated files in another folder.
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Re: Files moved but are empty
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Ilene,
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? > At first it appeared that the files moved fine.
? > They did but they were all empty.
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That's unfortunate. Something must have gone wrong when the transfer
agent attempted to collect the file content.
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You may be able to re-try the transfer later (leaving just the File
section checked in the list of areas to transfer). Hopefully Yahoo's
servers will be working better then.
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? > There is no place to add the message that the file contains.
? > In groups IO - does the file message go directly in the description
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No, the content should be in the file. The description text is only for
a description of the file content.
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Shal
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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages
Yvette Money
Just a thought - does this person have his delivery set to "individual messages" or to one of the digests?? I have mine set to "Daily summary" and it never has an individual's email address in it.? It always comes in like this:?[email protected]? with the group's name at the beginning. Very easy to whitelist one address.? If he isn't sure he can look online at the group and go to Subscription to see what he has his preference set at.? Any of the digests will come from one address only thus making it easier for him to whitelist.
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Re: Files moved but are empty
Ilene,
At first it appeared that the files moved fine.That's unfortunate. Something must have gone wrong when the transfer agent attempted to collect the file content. You may be able to re-try the transfer later (leaving just the File section checked in the list of areas to transfer). Hopefully Yahoo's servers will be working better then. There is no place to add the message that the file contains.No, the content should be in the file. The description text is only for a description of the file content. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: AOL e-mail and the Oath pledge and SPAM unsubscription
Oh that's a dandy -
"JURY TRIAL WAIVER. IF FOR ANY REASON A DISPUTE PROCEEDS IN COURT RATHER THAN THROUGH ARBITRATION, YOU AND OATH AGREE THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A JURY TRIAL. YOU AND OATH UNCONDITIONALLY WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO TRIAL BY JURY IN ANY ACTION, PROCEEDING OR COUNTERCLAIM IN ANY WAY ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO THESE TERMS. IN THE EVENT OF LITIGATION, THIS PARAGRAPH MAY BE FILED TO SHOW A WRITTEN CONSENT TO A TRIAL BY THE COURT." Big capital letters in bold. I have my doubts that clause can stand in the face of US law.? I just signed into my AOL account and it did nag me about the new TOS. I clicked "I'll do this later" and it let me in. If it ever won't bypass that I will not use that account, just let it remain on their books. Maybe I'll give the address out to a bunch of spammers to keep them busy. At any rate, my advice is to just get a gmail account. They don't try to give you the news, they redirect you to basic HTML if you have an old browser, which is absolutely fine with me. If I want more features I will seek them out. Their privacy agreement is more like a not privacy agreement. If they all start this, I will see if someone with a server who can handle an email account will let me use it. OK they might charge me but i beats this, even if he wants such an agreement. I do not like Yahoo, and I quit AOL but still have the email because they kept on removing features I used. They used to have hosting, it went away. They used to have Usenet access, it went away. What's more I had their broadband which was $ 55 a month. I got two words for them, the first one starts with "F" and the second one is "themselves". I wonder what hotrmail is like... |
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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi, Shal, Jim, Toby and Glenn,Thank you to all of you for your replies!? What a great group here.? I've forwarded your information and suggestions to the person who asked. I hope it helps him.? I receive the group emails just fine and I don't know of anyone else in our group with the same issues. Peter Rupprecht -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages
Jim Higgins
Received from Peter Rupprecht at 6/18/2018 07:33 PM UTC:
Hello, Shal and anyone who knows, Your subscriber's approach to filtering spam is overly aggressive and has likely been causing him issues here and there for quite some time. I suggest he contact the ISP that offers this filter, or if it's something he purchased separately, contact customer support. But in an effort to be more helpful than judgmental... On the white listing side of things... there are headers that consistently contain "groups.io" or "[email protected]." He needs to white list mail containing "groups.io" in one of those headers. The "Sender:" header containing [email protected]" seems like a good candidate. Or on the rejection side of things can he include a second criterion in each rule that blocks messages from groups.io saying something like "Any Header doesn't contain groups.io" There's one more solution... he can get a new email address that's used for NOTHING but groups.io (and maybe other mailing list) subscriptions. Presumably that email address won't have been propagated to every spammer in the universe and will be essentially spam-free. I have some email addresses that are 25 years old that get no spam because I use them only with friends and the rest of the world (where the spammers live) has never seen them. ;-) Good luck to him. Jim H |
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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages
Peter,
?To be clear, the Sender field does always say (the Sender field is not normally displayed in an email user interface, but you can see it in the View Original, View Source, or View Full Headers function (whatever your interface calls it). And if your member's filter will allow him to use that field instead of the From field that would be the easiest fix. I believe you mean the From field. An has been discussed, but I don't believe it has been implemented. Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi, Toby and Glenn.Thank you to both of your for your suggestions. It appears that Groups.io labels and sends out group posts differently than Yahoogroups does. So, does Groups.io allow a group to adjust its email delivery settings so that posts to the group from individual members will still always show the sender as <[email protected]>, instead of the personal address of the sender? Thank you for your help. Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------- On 6/18/2018 4:15 PM, Toby Kraft wrote:
Glenn - No, the From field on emails is the actual poster's email address which will not be "[email protected]".? Peter's post comes in as: |
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Re: Problem with the way Groups.io sends group messages
Peter,
?Actually, Groups.io does it both ways. It uses its own domain in the From for messages from users of certain email services, but passes the sender's From unmodified for all others. Yahoo Mail and AOL are among the services for which the From address gets modified. ?
? Your member needs a better spam filter. ?
?He would have to be able to whitelist as the Sender (not the From), if his email service supports that.? Or based upon being in the To, List-ID or Mailing-List fields, or the group's subject tag being in the Subject field.
?Yes, a few years back , in response to a problem they (Yahoo Mail) and AOL created by marking their outbound messages for rejection if forwarded through a mailing list. ?
? ?I don't know how to help with his specific email service. It is possible that there is no help for it if the service is too hostile to mailing lists that pass unmodified From fields with modified bodies.? ?Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Need to add to and modify the footer of each message
Jim, I looked at that link but I do not see any specifics other than inserting some text.? Do I need to use html coding to insert the url or is it just typed out as normal text then hope that it gets converted to html hot link? ?I wrote:? Enter the plain text URL of the links. In HTML formatted messages that will be automatically converted to a link (as shown in the example). In plain text messages it will be passed as plain text (of course), whether it displays as an active link depends on the receiving member's email interface. ? The problem I have been running into is that I go into my account in and add a signature block and enable it but it does not appear in messages that I might post. ?Signatures are an entirely different thing that the group footer. ? A footer addition for all group messages is done through the group's Settings page. A signature for your messages is done through your Subscription page. Am I to assume that my email client is responsible for that and nothing to do with settings I might have chosen?? My email client is Thunderbird. ?I use Thunderbird ?as well as Gmail web interface. Either can add a signature to my messages. But then that signature is applied to any message I send to any recipient. An advantage of the Signature feature in your Subscription page is that it is specific to the group receiving your posts. I use my Subscription page to add the signature about getting help because that signature is only appropriate to GMF. ?Unlike ?the group footer, the edit box for your Signature allows formatting. ? I have not tried doing a message via web to see if it adds it then. ?You can have it either way or both: Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: AOL e-mail and the Oath pledge and SPAM unsubscription
Ken,
?Would this be the ? ? ?Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |