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Re: Members cannot post photos in my group - why not? #membership #photos #notworking

John
 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:05 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Admin->Settings->Features->Photos->Permissions
Thanks for that. I've just changed the photo settings as you suggest and I'll let members know they should be logged in before they post. Thanks, John.1097


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 04:58 am, Marina wrote:
> Comments about these others are also welcome:

> NEW: Account export lets you specify which groups to export data from,
> and the export is better broken out by group.
It is not clear to me whether any group member is allowed to export any data from his/her group.
i.e. can a group member export all the archives, photos, files, etc. of the group he/she is subscribed to? Or is it a feature limited to moderators/owners?
In my group, Members' List and Directory are visible only to mods & owner, so I presume that members cannot export those data?

Thank you for your help.
Marina

?Marina,

Since ordinary members don't have access to "Admin/Settings" which is where the command to export group data is, then they can't do an group data export.

Of course, under "Account", everyone has the option to export their own account information.

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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 04:25 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

I generally consent to cookies. Except when they're minty.
My policy is all chocolate chip, all the time. Plus the occasional
Do-si-do or Trefoil (when it is Girl Scout cookie season).
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> Comments about these others are also welcome:

> NEW: Account export lets you specify which groups to export data from,
> and the export is better broken out by group.
It is not clear to me whether any group member is allowed to export any data from his/her group.
i.e. can a group member export all the archives, photos, files, etc. of the group he/she is subscribed to? Or is it a feature limited to moderators/owners?
In my group, Members' List and Directory are visible only to mods & owner, so I presume that members cannot export those data?

Thank you for your help.
Marina


Re: Invitations to subgroups

 

Bruce,

I¡¯m curious if there is a way to tailor invitations to sub-groups so
that an invitee can only join a subset of the subgroups of a main
group.
You can only invite people to the primary group.

Once someone is a member of the primary group, each subgroup's setting applies as to whether a member of the primary group can see the subgroup, and whether members of the primary group can join the subgroup without restriction.

it appears that the only way to allow membership to a subset of
subgroups is to invite to the main group and then, after the member
joins that, either allow them to join the groups you want them in, and
reject their attempts to join the others, or open subgroups under
Admin and check the appropriate boxes.
Using the checkboxes does not restrict a primary group member from attempting to join any subgroup, only restricting the subgroup's membership does that.

As best I can tell, other then requiring approval to join and
rejecting the request, there isn¡¯t any way to specifically invite to a
subgroup and restrict other subgroups from that member¡­ right?
Sort-of. Requiring approval to join is the only way to keep primary group members from joining a given subgroup. There is no way I know of to invite a person, primary group member or not, directly to a subgroup.

Membership in one subgroup does not imply any special access to or ability to join another subgroup.

Shal


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Re: Hiding the number of members on home page

 

John,

Is it possible, either by itself or hiding Group Information - at
least from the public?
Not that I know of.

You could drop that in the groups.io suggestion box:


Shal


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Re: #suggestion - Add address field to profile #suggestion

Chris V
 

What would be even better is the ability to add your own extra fields and if these could be available to users when they join a group.

Our group are all members of a national (UK) association and we have to check their membership number and address.

So if we could add membership number and postcode(zip) as extra fields . Users could then supply these when they request to join.

At the moment we have to send them an automatic email to ask them for this information.

Chris


Re: Question about chat capabilities of groups.io

 

Michael,

Are these chats publically viewable?
No, that is not even an available option.

Subscribers can read and participate in chats, they can start new chats if that's allowed by the group's Chats setting, in the Features section of the group's Settings page.

Shal


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Question about chat capabilities of groups.io

 

Hi all. I have a question about the chat capabilities of groups.io. Are these chats publically viewable? If so, can this be changed? Sorry if I am asking too many questions.
Thanks.
From Michael.


Re: How long is the wait?

Prasad Agrahar
 

OK, I am still waiting for the acceptance of invitation.. I will wait...?

Thanks
Prasad

On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 10:04:07 PM EDT, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:


The most recent information we've seen is 10-14 days, but that was a couple of weeks ago.? Once the invitation is accepted, it shouldn't take long, depending on how well Yahoo is delivering the data needed.

Duane
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Re: How long is the wait?

 

The most recent information we've seen is 10-14 days, but that was a couple of weeks ago.? Once the invitation is accepted, it shouldn't take long, depending on how well Yahoo is delivering the data needed.

Duane
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How long is the wait?

Prasad Agrahar
 

I have initiated the Easy Yahoo Group Transfer and have been waiting for a few days. When I check for the status of the transfer I see a message "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite".??I have been waiting for many days now. Any idea how long is the backlog???

Prasad


Re: Is there some setting to disable the QUOTE FUNCTION when making a reply? . . . #suggestion

 

Paul,

So... Is there a setting on Groups.io which disables the quote
function/icon when a member makes a reply to another member's
topic/post?
As Duane and Bruce mentioned, this is usually an issue with members who reply by email. There isn't a relevant setting fro the group, but here's what Groups.io does generally:

o In replies forwarded to members receiving individual messages, nothing. The quoted matter is passed through.

o In replies forwarded to members receiving digests the trailing quoted matter is removed. In some cases quoted matter may not be recognized if the replying member's email interface uses an unconventional marking for quoted material; if you have a frequent case where this happens you can ask support to look into it. In rare cases a top-quote can cause the entire reply to disappear.

o In replies shown in the group's messages section the trailing quoted matter is hidden under an ellipsis button [...] that can be clicked to show it. As with the Digest case the detection isn't always perfect.

Having an option like that would save our moderators a lot of time
having to remove piggybacking and would also minimize the moderators'
alienating of so many of our members when we reject one of their
messages and ask that they to remove the piggybacking and then
re-submit it.
If your primary motive for rejecting the piggybacking was the effect it has on Y!group digests (extensive bottom quotes making them nearly unreadable) then you may be able to relax the requirement in Groups.io. Members who receive individual messages in email are usually more tolerant of extensive bottom-quotes.

In this group I'm still pretty much a stickler for removing excess quotes, especially more than the first message in a reply. But I can't necessarily defend that moderation style on practical grounds. Just a feeling that everyone benefits from keeping things concise and relevant.

Shal


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Re: Just Joined [Yahoo Group transfer]

 

Kim,

I have requested twice for the Groups.io to join my Yahoo Group to
transfer it to Groups.io - and NOTHING. When and what is supposed to
happen?
That depends on what other steps you've taken. If you haven't followed the steps in the instructions then nothing happens merely as a result of inviting the transfer agent to your Y!group.
/yahootransfer

See the many other threads on the subject in this group's Messages section, and especially see our web page for additional tips:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

As of about a week and a half ago there was a two-week backlog of groups to transfer. I haven't heard any more up-to-date status, so I don't know if that backlog is growing or shrinking.

Shal


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Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


NEW: The website now requires consent for cookies.
I generally consent to cookies. Except when they're minty.


NEW: Added cookie policy.
My policy is all chocolate chip, all the time. Plus the occasional Do-si-do or Trefoil (when it is Girl Scout cookie season).


Comments about these others are also welcome:

NEW: Revamped terms of service/privacy policy/about/cookie policy
sidebar navigation.
BUGFIX: Fixed infinite loop when finding a File path in a specific
case.
INTERNAL: Made it easier to profile the web servers in production.
NEW: Account export lets you specify which groups to export data from,
and the export is better broken out by group.
SYSADMIN: Added an additional webserver.
CHANGE: We now parse a bunch more incorrect Date: header line formats,
where the day of the week is spelled out (Monday) and/or the month
is spelled out (January).
Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

Thanks Shal... that was it -- my face is red, as two others tried to lead me there as well, but I drove right by it. Sigh.
It all works properly now
Best,
jerome


Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

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Jerome,

I've re-checked it all and everything 'appears' to be correct: ? My user is logged in and the album is set for group access and updated.

You didn't mention checking the group setting, so I'm not sure if you included that in "re-checked it all":



Shal


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Re: Group transfer and message ID #transfer #messages

 

Bertrand,

The current group is linked to a database which refers to the yahoo
group's messages using the yahoo message number.
As Bruce implied, you're in a tough spot here because there will only be piecewise correlation between the numbering from the Y!Group and in the Groups.io group.

If you're a moderator you can use "View Source" in the More menu to see the header of the message. Groups.io added one at the top to identify the corresponding Yahoo Group message number:

X-Yahoo-Msgnum:

With enough tedious effort you could use that info to find and record the endpoints of each segment that has the same offset (the offset should be monotonically increasing. It may not be too arduous if members and mods seldom deleted any messages in the Yahoo Group. Of course updating your database would be another effort.

Hmm, I wonder if the transfer agent could be improved to include that table of segments in the transfer results notice. That might be a reasonable request to make in the beta group:


With the right kind of programming skills one might be able to create a script to go read them all and produce a correspondence table, or a list of the segments (as above).

Or, the fact that data is available leads to a different request you could make on beta@ - a means to search and/or sort by Y!Group number.

Shal


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Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

Thanks for the suggestions Duane...

I've re-checked it all and everything 'appears' to be correct: ? My user is logged in and the album is set for group access and updated.?

Still no 'Add Photos' option present for the user, so no access.

Thanks,
jerome


Re: Replace Moderator

 

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¡°Files and photos can be moved manually by the members who had added them. They can also be moved by you but will get listed under your profile.¡±

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I did the same thing as you, and the ownership of the files changed to me also, since I was the one that uploaded them to our new groups.io group. So that the original creators of the files got their credit for the files I uploaded, I added their name to the description of each file that I could find an owner of. An example would be ¡°Ahoy For Projects by David & Carol Sibley¡±.

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Photos was a different story, since our members can make their own Photo Albums. For the most part albums made by past members that were not current members of the new site, were either assigned to the owner of the group (Me), or had no ownership at all, but as the group owner I could still control the album. There were a few albums, where the owners of the albums transferred to the new group, but lost ownership of their albums in the new group. In those cases the album owners had to download all they wanted out of their album, then make a new album to upload their things into, after I deleted their old album. It was done that way, so the naming convention of the albums stayed in alphabetical order. I still have members that have albums they never took ownership of to date (They¡¯ve been alerted to this situation a couple of times), so I imagine when they finally get around to wanting to do something with their albums they¡¯ll be notifying me of their problem.

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Don


Re: user cannot create a photo album but owner can

 

Check the thread at /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/20335683 that started just before you posted.

Duane
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