Re: Testing a group before transferring #transfer

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Yes you can set up a test group.? BUT think before naming it.?? Once a group name has been used, it becomes unavailable without jumping through some significant hoops.? ??So the safest bet is to NOT name it something you plan to use. ??That allows you to keep the group off the radar, play with adding fake members, fake documents, fake wiki stuff, etc.? You can adjust settings various ways until it’s configured the way you want, etc. etc.

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Another approach, which I used in transferring my groups from Yahoo, ?is to establish the “real” name for the test group, set the settings (if you’re already clear what you want) send a few test messages, and then …… let ‘er rip by going through the process of adding all of your “real” members.? So, the test group will become your permanent group.? That’s what I did.??

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NOTE:? There is no obvious way for group owners to delete old messages, so your test messages will remain in the archive. ?It IS easy to delete fake members and fake resources in the wiki, etc.

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Cordially,

Jennifer Christian, MD, MPH

Moderator, Work Fitness & Disability Roundtable (free list serv with >1300 members)

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of NCWG Admin
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Testing a group before transferring #transfer

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Hello all,

I am new to Groups.io and exploring Yahoo Groups alternatives. I inherited a Yahoo Group of approximately 150 members and am desperately searching for something better. I think Groups.io looks very promising, but I want to test it first with a few members before transferring the entire group. Can I start a new group and invite a few people for testing purposes and play around with the functionality for a few days/weeks. ?And then transfer a Yahoo Group into my Groups.io group after a few weeks? Or do you have to start a group and then transfer at the beginning of a new Groups life??

Thank you for any advice.

Gina

Re: Testing a group before transferring #transfer

#824

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Hello,

Yes, you can create a test group and test various features before transferring the “real” group.

Cheers,

Joseph

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of NCWG Admin
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Testing a group before transferring #transfer

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Hello all,

I am new to Groups.io and exploring Yahoo Groups alternatives. I inherited a Yahoo Group of approximately 150 members and am desperately searching for something better. I think Groups.io looks very promising, but I want to test it first with a few members before transferring the entire group. Can I start a new group and invite a few people for testing purposes and play around with the functionality for a few days/weeks. ?And then transfer a Yahoo Group into my Groups.io group after a few weeks? Or do you have to start a group and then transfer at the beginning of a new Groups life??

Thank you for any advice.

Gina

Testing a group before transferring #transfer

#823

Hello all,

I am new to Groups.io and exploring Yahoo Groups alternatives. I inherited a Yahoo Group of approximately 150 members and am desperately searching for something better. I think Groups.io looks very promising, but I want to test it first with a few members before transferring the entire group. Can I start a new group and invite a few people for testing purposes and play around with the functionality for a few days/weeks. ?And then transfer a Yahoo Group into my Groups.io group after a few weeks? Or do you have to start a group and then transfer at the beginning of a new Groups life??

Thank you for any advice.

Gina

Re: Groups.io -- set up and features video tutorials #howtoguide

#822

Neil,

Hello. I am new here and looking to learn. Where can I find set up
and features video tutorials?No videos (yet?), and so far rather deficient in screenshots, but we're trying to grow a collection of help pages in the GMF Wiki.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki

Anyone with the gumption to do it is invited to help improve our Wiki.

That's envisioned as an adjunct to the official Groups.io help pages, linked at the bottom of every page.

Shal

Re: Subgroups as there own mailing list

#821

Neil,

Am I correct in saying that a s subgroup can, in addition to the
other features, have its own mailing list?Correct. That's usually the primary reason for creating a subgroup.

One caveat: every member of a subgroup must also be a member of the primary group.

Shal

Subgroups as there own mailing list

#820

Am I correct in saying that a s subgroup can, in addition to the other features, have its own mailing list?

Cheers

Neil

Groups.io -- set up and features video tutorials #howtoguide

#819

Hello. I am new here and looking to learn. ?Where can I find set up and features video tutorials?

I look forward to hearing from someone. ?Thank you

Neil

Re: a question about the disable editing posts setting

J_Olivia Catlady

#818

Shal, what's the problem with the irrevocable license? I think that's pretty common.

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On Sep 18, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Steph,

Hi everyone, in one of my groups that I own here on Groups.io I saw in 
the activity log that a member has deleted a message in the archives and 
I don't want my members doing that.  This disable editing posts check 
box, does that include disabling members to delete messages within the 
archives?No.

There is no way to prevent members from deleting their own content, and I believe that is a deliberate design choice. 

In Yahoo Groups the concept was embedded in the TOS: Yahoo claimed only a license to display a user's content until such time as the member (or Yahoo) removes it (cf. section 9a). The implication is that the member must retain the ability to delete his/her content.

By contrast, Groups.io claims an irrevocable license to display the content (and I consider that a concern with these terms). So in theory the software need not preserve the member's ability to delete the content. But in practice it does.

Shal

Re: a question about the disable editing posts setting

#817

Steph,

Hi everyone, in one of my groups that I own here on Groups.io I saw in 
the activity log that a member has deleted a message in the archives and 
I don't want my members doing that.  This disable editing posts check 
box, does that include disabling members to delete messages within the 
archives?  No.

There is no way to prevent members from deleting their own content, and I believe that is a deliberate design choice. 

In Yahoo Groups the concept was embedded in the TOS: Yahoo claimed only a license to display a user's content until such time as the member (or Yahoo) removes it (cf. section 9a). The implication is that the member must retain the ability to delete his/her content.

By contrast, Groups.io claims an irrevocable license to display the content (and I consider that a concern with these terms). So in theory the software need not preserve the member's ability to delete the content. But in practice it does.

Shal

a question about the disable editing posts setting

Steph Mathews

#816

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Hi everyone, in one of my groups that I own here on Groups.io I saw in the activity log that a member has deleted a message in the archives and I don't want my members doing that.? This?disable editing posts check box, does that include disabling members to delete messages within the archives?? Thanks!? Steph

Re: Transferring Groups

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I just transferred a group of almost 3000 members and 14 years of archives and it was perfect. No work on my part at all.

Each person received a very clear email from Goups.io telling them about the transfer and giving them the option of unsubscribing. About 100 people did. I spot checked to find out why. The ones I checked had moved out of the area and never bothered to unsubscribe. It’s a neighborhood list so if people moved two miles away the list would not be useful to them. The message was an easy way to unsubscribe.

Only ONE person has emailed me directly to ask the new address. Amazing.

People love the new service. Over the last 13 years we had watched YahooGroups decline in services while increasing ads, insisting that people set up Yahoo email accounts, and requiring phone numbers. I had people subscribe by email so they could avoid setting up an account. That meant we no longer used any of the web-based services.

I’m sure that when we get to the point of needing it, I can easily get donations to pay for the enterprise service on Groups.io.

Sharon
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Where Everyone Trims Their Tails,
Smothers Flames, Ignores Trolls, and
Never Sends Private Messages to the List.

Re: Beta

J_Olivia Catlady

#814

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Barry,

Relax and pour yourself a celebratory drink. You made it out of Yahoo. All will be well.;)

J

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On Sep 16, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Barry Dewdney <dewdney300@...> wrote:

Many Thanks J_Catlady,
I've spent the last 5 years with 4 different groups in 'Flakey' Yahoo, but without?any provider support I have had to give up on of them all in the end.
I've now started up 2 groups using ?for two different clubs I belong to and so far it's been great.
Fingers crossed
Barry?

Re: Beta

#813

Many Thanks J_Catlady,

I've spent the last 5 years with 4 different groups in 'Flakey' Yahoo, but without?any provider support I have had to give up on of them all in the end.

I've now started up 2 groups using groups.io?for two different clubs I belong to and so far it's been great.

Fingers crossed

Barry?

Re: Beta

#812

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I’ve had two groups on Groups.io for nearly a year now, and we have been operating quite smoothly.?? No-one except us group owners/moderators would ever think it’s still in beta. ??There’s been an occasional wrinkle, but that’s where the WONDERFULNESS starts.???? While we were on Yahoo, everyone just had to work around its defects and lapses because there was an inpregnable wall between us and Yahoo.?? Mark Fletcher who developed and runs Groups.io, is wonderfully responsive.?

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The business purpose of Yahoo Groups is to provide eyeballs to marketers in exchange for advertising revenue.?? Yahoo doesn’t fundamentally CARE whether every group owner and individual in a group can actually use the tool.??? Mark Fletcher comes at it from the opposite angle;? his view is that the users will see value in ?(and be willing to pay for) being able to find others with similar interests and communicate/collaborate with one another. ????I was quite willing to pay the fee for my groups because my groups have serious business we do together.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J_Catlady
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Beta

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Barry,

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You can certainly put your mind at rest. I have several groups on Groups.io and belong to several more. I cringe whenever I have to even go near Yahoo any more. It's literally night and day.

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J

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On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:45 AM, Barry Dewdney <dewdney300@...> wrote:

Many, many thanks Frances, That's put my mind a rest.

So far I am very pleased with using this method of communicating with groups.

Barry?

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Re: Beta

J_Olivia Catlady

#811

Barry,

You can certainly put your mind at rest. I have several groups on Groups.io and belong to several more. I cringe whenever I have to even go near Yahoo any more. It's literally night and day.

J

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On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:45 AM, Barry Dewdney <dewdney300@...> wrote:

Many, many thanks Frances, That's put my mind a rest.
So far I am very pleased with using this method of communicating with groups.
Barry?

Re: Beta

#810

Mark has said he hopes to get it out of "beta" by the end of the month:
/g/beta/topic/beta_end_projection/2404077

Duane

Re: Beta

#809

Many, many thanks Frances, That's put my mind a rest.

So far I am very pleased with using this method of communicating with groups.

Barry?

Re: Beta

#808

I have a couple of groups on Groups.io. There were migrated from Yahoo Groups in the spring of 2015. All going strong. Someone else can tell you the full answer - for example, I believe that there is an enterprise version coming at some point. And tweaks based on our demands!?

Lots of nice things about Groups.io - built in wiki, file, database, polling capabilities. Nice little things to make things easier for moderators (if you wish to have a moderated site.) Love little things like sticky posts, following, integrations, etc. And Mark is very responsive.?

Frances

Beta

#807

Anyone know if groups.io is still in Beta stage of development and if so, has it not been officially released?

Or when is it likely to be fully released? Just concerned whether it will be another Yahoo disaster?

Barry

New Unsubscribe feature on iOS 10 #membership

#806

Just receivef a post and right at the top of the email is an option to unsubscribe ?

I haven't tested it ?just thought you might like to know ?

Frances?