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Have you made the link for posting in Groups.IO for your list(s) available to your members and explained the reasons for this change to them? You may also ask members to send posts to your email personally, they may be having trouble posting and you can then forward these to the new list.

Members are less likely to understand or care about the differences between list providers as they do not have to deal with their benefits or drawbacks which may make their view of this change different than yours.





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Michael,

Are all group members automatically added to updates group?

During a transfer from a Y!Group, yes.

"CHANGE: With yahoo group transfers, add a note saying members have been
added to the updates group."

I know one can just unsubscribe, but can this default setting be
disabled?

Not that I know of.

I thought I saw a checkbox somewhere, but I am unable to
locate it now. Did I imagine it?

It is on the Sign Up form if you create a new account via the Groups.io web site. I think that may have also been somewhere when a person accepts an invitation.

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Sharon,

On YahooGroups, if people subscribe from 2+ email addresses, yahoo
will group them under one account. When you subscribe to a list, you
choose the address to subscribe from.

If you jump through the correct set of hoops to add those addresses to the same Yahoo account.

You could also jump through a different set to add each to its own Yahoo Account. The latter is the natural result if they are two or more Yahoo Mail addresses.

Since Groups.io only has an email address, a name, and preferences —
no other account information — aren’t the two email addresses treated
as independent subscriptions?

Correct. Each subscribed email address is the ID for its own account.

There's some hope that Groups.io will someday allow multiple subscription addresses to be managed under a single account.


There is an advanced setting for your account that allows for an Email Alias, but that address is not subscribed to any groups, and won't receive any group's messages - it is strictly a send-only alternative to posting from your account address.

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Nancy,

We're using a group only to send notices out to our volunteers via
email, and there's no need for anyone (other than moderators) to see
all the postings. Is there some setting that would accomplish that?

There isn't a setting that restricts the Messages section any tighter than members-only. I think the idea generally is that it is up to the member whether they prefer to receive messages by email or read the group on the web.

Is there really some reason they /shouldn't/ be able to do that, or were you merely saying that it is unnecessary?

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Tammi,

After I setup the group, I went to create subgroup. When I hit add, a
subgroup is not created. I've refreshed. Logged out and back in.
Does there need to be more members than just me on the main group
before setting up subs?

No, but if it is a brand-new group the parent group may need to be approved first. Some functions are disabled until the group is approved, and it may be that subgroup creation is one of them.

That's just a grasping-at-straws guess.

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dash,

I have one group that was moved some time ago and was ok.... now I
lost 2 genealogy groups and a group I had for many years. I am so
upset.

I understand that when you're in a panic it may be difficult to slow down and work things through carefully. But to help you figure this out we really need more information from you.

I wrote:

Are you sure you targeted the correct Groups.io group?

I wrote:

Or maybe you're signed out of Yahoo, or signed in with the wrong
account?

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Nancy,

I just want to know ... what is a subject tag?

Just a bit of text you can add to the Subject line of every outbound email message from your group. They don't show up (generally) in your group's Messages section.

I've been assuming it is [my group’s name] but don’t know the purpose.

The idea is to give the email user some visual indication of which group this message came from, and also to allow them to make simple email filters based on the group tag in the subject. If you imagine your email inbox full of messages from various groups and individuals you can see where this may be handy.

They don't have to be the group name in full, that's why they're editable. I shortened the tag for this group to [GMF] because the full name [GroupManagersForum] takes up a lot of room in a list view of one's Inbox. The [square brackets] around the tag are technically optional, but they are very traditional and serve to separate the tag visually from the actual message topic.

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I've just had a large group transferred and most of it looks really good. I added myself as a test member and found that the new account was already subscribed to 2 groups. The other group was "updates" with 527,000 members and single message delivery.

The last thing in the world I want is for all the group members I'm soon going to be adding to be getting single messages (even just once a week) for a very technical group that they didn't explicitly join.

I know one can just unsubscribe, but can this default setting be disabled? I thought I saw a checkbox somewhere, but I am unable to locate it now. Did I imagine it?

i reported this bug to both Mark & support a few days ago.

ruthie levi

More explanation needed to understand? what you want. You don't want members to see the message archive on the website? You want a one way notification system to which members cannot reply?

Thanks Shal! Right now I'm getting a whole lot of silence from my group that transferred over today, so I have been sending the same email to both groups. Still a lot of silence. One thing I noticed. The emails that I sent through my IO group were lightening fast and they went through the group and I got my copy back before my email client was even done sending and receiving. The ones sent to my yahoo groups are taking over an hour to get there and some not at all. I had to resend. Very frustrating! My members are really dragging their feet, but they are not the ones trying to get email to people. I am! And I don't understand why they would want to stay there! It's absolutely terrible there! I guess some people just don't like change.
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Marie,

So how do they access their account in my group?

Their subscription to your group is separate from their account; they may have subscriptions to other groups within their account.

To access their account info they'd have to log in to the site, then click on their name in the extreme upper right, and select Account from the drop-menu.

How do they connect to their membership in the directory?

Their address and their account are already connected to your group, the transfer agent set that up.

If you're asking how they visit your group's web pages they can follow any of the links to your group that were sent in the various emails they've received, or go to the groups.io home page and click on your group from the list of their subscriptions.

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Gerald,

Would Email Delivery set to "No email" prevent the BCC getting
through?

Not unless there's some real confusion in the code.

Distribution of +owner email to the group's owners and mods is governed by its own setting in each admin's Subscription page. That shouldn't be affected by the delivery selection for group messages.

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Marie,

Are you doing a BCC directly from the group or from your own email
program?

This started with an observation about the BCC: Moderators option when rejecting a pending message, using the web site.

Whenever I BCC someone at the groups, like send an email to my main
group and BCC several other groups, I get mailer daemon notices and my
mail may or may not get to the ones I sent with BCC.

As I recall Y!Groups doesn't allow BCC sending to a group's -owner address, but I think the posting address would be ok. You might be encountering a problem with Y!Groups which is unrelated to BCC, or maybe there's something new afoot over there.

This is the first I have heard anyone mention this, so I wonder if
it might be the same or similar issue?

Nope, not in the least. Other than "BCC" being used.

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Would Email Delivery set to "No email" prevent the BCC getting through?

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Gerald

If you are referring to the "Send Notice To Group When Event Happens" setting, yes, that goes out at the time the event happens.
To have reminders sent out prior to the event, you can add them to the event when you create it (or edit later).? Each event has its own reminders.
Toby

The old address will continue to work, don't worry.? However, I wish it had been made obvious by groups.io that this email change happens when you create a subgroup.? It should be a notification in bold-face for all people when they create their group.? Even though I knew the old address would continue to work, I delayed creating the subgroup because I was worried about my members being confused- I had just gone through weeks of prepping them for the new address, and didn't want to suddenly say, "Oh, btw guys, here is the newer, even realer email address".? I was also worried spam issues would have to be dealt with all over again.? In the end, I made the subgroup and didn't even say anything to the group.? That was almost a month ago and everything has gone smoothly, as far as I can tell.? Most people still use the original address when sending group emails.

On YahooGroups, if people subscribe from 2+ email addresses, yahoo will group them under one account. When you subscribe to a list, you choose the address to subscribe from.

Since Groups.io only has an email address, a name, and preferences — no other account information — aren’t the two email addresses treated as independent subscriptions?

Sharon
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Under my groups settings, "Photos", "Max Size In Email" is set to "Resized to a max of 1024x1024".? However, when I send photos they are resized to 640px max.? This is not happening to other group members, their photos are being resized to 1024px.? I am sure the resizing is not happening in my end, as I forwarded the exact email that I sent to the group to a private account, and there the photos were not resized.? I am a group owner, in case that matters.? This has happened to me twice. The photo size has been set to 1024px for ~2 months, and has not been reset.? None of the other photo size options (database, wiki) are set to 640px.? Is this a bug, or something silly on my part?? Apologies if it's something silly.