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Re: How to respond to messages on the Groups.io website #addmembers

J_Catlady
 

They have to go to , log in, and find the group's home page. From there, they go to the Messages list.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Albert Ruel <albert.gtt@...> wrote:
Can someone help me sort out how our members can read the list messages on the web and respond from there?? So far it seems one must use a mail client in order to be able to respond to the messages.?



How to respond to messages on the Groups.io website #addmembers

 

Can someone help me sort out how our members can read the list messages on the web and respond from there?? So far it seems one must use a mail client in order to be able to respond to the messages.?


Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


NEW: Added Messages -> Attachments -> Moderate to group settings, to
moderate messages with attachments.
Nifty! That could be a very useful compromise between stripping them and allowing them; for group admins concerned with either their size or potentially being malicious.


CHANGE: When viewing a member's delivery history, check the successful
delivery cache for a more recent successful delivery than what's in
the database.
Ah, this may fix some of the delay or apparent non-reporting that J and I have discussed with respect to the fate of Pending member notices.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/5789


CHANGE: For the Yahoo group transfer process, enable deleting of the
transfer request after the transfer has been completed, so that it
can be resubmitted in cases where Yahoo's Files or Photos weren't
working at the time of the original transfer.
This may be a clue that transferring a group in stages would be treated as a separate transfer.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/6184


CHANGE: Allow style attributes on h1..h5 when displaying html messages
and wiki pages.
Oh, that could be helpful in formatting wiki pages. I'll have to try and remember that.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

CHANGE: For enterprise groups, remove Sign Up link in header.
BUGFIX: Fixed bounce probe emails to display proper group names with
enterprise groups.
CHANGE: Wording/collapse tweaks to the user sidebar.
INTERNAL: Streamlined some of the process of getting an SSL cert for
new enterprise groups.
CHANGE: In the post to sub view, also show Pending Subscription
notices in the notices selector.
NEW: The edit subject page for messages without tags sent to groups
that require them has been reformatted, with a selector to select
existing tags.
CHANGE: In a table, don't show a date or time field if it has not been
set (ie if a date or time column has been added, and there are
existing rows).
BUGFIX: Muting a hashtag manually didn't work.
CHANGE: Changing your password now displays a proper 'your password
has been changed message' and you're redirected to the home page.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: subgroup creation fails?

 

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Don,

When I click on "Create Subgroup", nothing happens ...
Any clue as to what's going on?

None. I can't think of anything that would prevent a group owner from creating a subgroup; and even if there is something the error reporting seems broken.

Did you mean that you don't get this page:



Or when you click the green Create Subgroup button at the bottom of that page?

If the latter, possibly something you entered into the Group Email Address was invalid but the test for it failed. Or, even more far-fetched, something in the Description.

In either case, if you haven't already I'd suggest sending your message to [email protected] to see what needs to be fixed.

Shal


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Re: Can you embed calendar into a web site

 

Not easily.? You might want to take a look at /g/GroupManagersForum/message/5883

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Re: Pending subscription

 

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 09:19 am, Steve wrote:
still NOT receiving any emails

Just to verify, you did save the settings for your subscription?? The only other thing I can think of is that there may be a delay between the time you change it and when it kicks in.? Maybe try a few times through the day.? If you're still not getting them after a few hours, I'd send as much info as possible to support in case there's a glitch.

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Re: Pending subscription

 

uh, yes, my previous post here i even included a screenshot...


Re: bouncing

 

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 06:47 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Margaret,

How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?
?
Select the Bouncing list on your group's Members page.
Thanks Shal and Duane

Margaret


Re: Pending subscription

J_Catlady
 

p.s. The issue has not been that the replies are not received. It's that, randomly, the pending members don't receive the Pending Subscription notice at all.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Steve <butterandpeanuts@...> wrote:
Ok, so I just read the prior posts on "pending subscription", I can see this topic has been going on for some time.

I just spent a considerable amount of time testing it, this lovely Saturday am, on multiple "new" accounts.

The issue I'm finding on the accounts I was testing, is that after applying to join, they DO get the form I generated with a series of questions, however, neither? I nor the other owners/moderators ever receive their reply (and no, it's not going into my spam folder).? In fact, if I just send an email directly to that delivery address, I don't receive that either.

The address that was generated is:?
"[email protected] Group Moderators" <[email protected]>
eg, any email sent to that email address, is NOT received by me or the other moderators.??

Any ideas why???



Re: Pending subscription

J_Catlady
 

Did you check your subscription page to make sure you're set to receive owner emails?

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Steve <butterandpeanuts@...> wrote:
Ok, so I just read the prior posts on "pending subscription", I can see this topic has been going on for some time.

I just spent a considerable amount of time testing it, this lovely Saturday am, on multiple "new" accounts.

The issue I'm finding on the accounts I was testing, is that after applying to join, they DO get the form I generated with a series of questions, however, neither? I nor the other owners/moderators ever receive their reply (and no, it's not going into my spam folder).? In fact, if I just send an email directly to that delivery address, I don't receive that either.

The address that was generated is:?
"[email protected] Group Moderators" <[email protected]>
eg, any email sent to that email address, is NOT received by me or the other moderators.??

Any ideas why???



Re: ERROR message: "That email address is already registered" #alias

 

I believe that, in this respect, GIO is intended to mimic the old listserv mailing lists. Unlike Y!G, in GIO your email address IS your user ID.

There are advantages to this, the main one being the ability to participate in groups without having to set up a separate GIO "account." While some may experience a few disadvantages, on the whole I prefer the GIO way.

Bruce


Can you embed calendar into a web site

 

I¡¯ve been asked if we can embed our groups.io calendar into a web site. Do you know? Thank you. Tammi


Re: Pending subscription

 

Duane... you were right, it was only set to subscribers.? I did change it (see the attached).? However, I am still NOT receiving any emails sent to that email address (and nothing in my spam box).? Have tried it multiple times.? Any clues???

Steve


Re: Pending subscription

 

Check your subscription settings for Owner Emails on the group, down at the bottom, to make sure you're set to receive owner emails.? Since the person isn't a member yet, you'll want to receive All Emails to the owner address.? You may get a little spam now and then, but that would be the only setting you could use to get them.? As of now, they aren't shown/saved for non-members on the site, though it's been requested.

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Pending subscription

 

Ok, so I just read the prior posts on "pending subscription", I can see this topic has been going on for some time.

I just spent a considerable amount of time testing it, this lovely Saturday am, on multiple "new" accounts.

The issue I'm finding on the accounts I was testing, is that after applying to join, they DO get the form I generated with a series of questions, however, neither? I nor the other owners/moderators ever receive their reply (and no, it's not going into my spam folder).? In fact, if I just send an email directly to that delivery address, I don't receive that either.

The address that was generated is:?
"[email protected] Group Moderators" <[email protected]>
eg, any email sent to that email address, is NOT received by me or the other moderators.??

Any ideas why???


Re: Likes

 

Steve,

So if I "like" a message post, it shows that i've "liked" it; dumb
question probably, but where else is it reflected, ...
Not a dumb question. The answer is "nowhere".

And that's unfortunate. I don't think it was meant to be this way.

There are several ways I'd "like" to see those exposed, as part of the long-awaited "notifications overhaul" and as part of search improvements.


I'd like the ability to be notified when one of my posts is Liked.

As a moderator, or maybe even as a member, I might like to be notified when any post in my group is Liked.

I'd like to see "Is liked" as a Messages list filter. Also "Is liked by me". Maybe also "Is liked by [pick a member]".


Shal


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Re: ERROR message: "That email address is already registered" #alias

 

Vern,

QUESTION #1: Why won't it let me define an alias to the
"me4bbb@..." email address (in my "me4aaa@..." account)?
Sounds like a good question to me. I guess because me4aaa and me4bbb could in principle both be subscribed to the same group, and then there would be an ambiguity as to which subscription's Posting Privileges to apply. That could be resolved by giving precedence always to the direct subscription over any aliases.

Which question brings up the related one: are you allowed to make an alias to me4ccc in me4bbb. And if so, what then happens to messages sent via me4ccc if both me4aaa and me4bbb have a subscription to that group?

13. I guess that I might be able to re-login as "me4bbb@...", and
re-JOIN the*"[email protected]
If while logged into me4bbb you unsubscribe from [email protected] then I think you may be allowed to use me4bbb as an alias. That's kind of reading between the lines and squinting here:


However:

QUESTION #2: Is there a better ... way to allow me to send emails
from *ANY* of my email addresses, and have them be recognized by
either of my subscribed GROUPS.IO groups?
Not that I know of. Any two, yes, via Alias, but not a larger number (I don't think you can have more than one Alias per account). The alias feature really wasn't intended for your use case.

Mark has stated an intention to "do something better" for managing multiple email addresses, but just what that that might be, or when it might happen I can't guess.

For now, it is far simpler to run all of your active subscriptions from a single email address.

QUESTION #3: What happens when the owner of a Yahoo group (I
belong to) referencing "me4ccc@..." transfers it to GROUPS.IO?
I think the transfer itself works fine. I don't think that the fact that me4ccc is used as an alias for other accounts will bollix anything.

However, it once again leaves you in the situation of having one group under a different login account than the others. And given that there is currently no means to merge two accounts, nor to move subscriptions from one account to another, you can only resolve it by re-subscribing to the group under the preferred address.

Which abandons your content in that group under the me4ccc account. Not good. One way to forestall that would be to consolidate your Y!Group memberships to a single email address while you still can (and before any more of your groups transfer).

I was kind of hoping that subscription moving and/or account merging would get implemented before a major influx of Yahoo Groups - precisely for this reason. Oh well.

Shal


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ERROR message: "That email address is already registered" #alias

 

Regarding ERROR message: "That email address is already registered", received when trying to define alias email address for account.

BACKGROUND:? I have/had memberships in several Yahoo Groups.? Some of these Yahoo groups reference one of my email addresses, some Yahoo groups reference a different email address, and some even reference a third Email address.? But all of these Yahoo Groups referenced me as a single, common Yahoo-ID; so prior to recent migrations to GROUPS.IO, I could login as one Yahoo-ID to review and/or moderate any of these Yahoo groups.?? In reality, I have membership in over a hundred Yahoo Groups; and own or moderate several.

SAMPLE SCENARIO (to illustrate my concern with simplified group and email addresses):?
  1. Yahoo group "aaa" references my Email address "me4aaa@...".
  2. Yahoo group "bbb" references my Email address "me4bbb@...".
  3. Yahoo group "ccc" references my Email address "me4ccc@...".
  4. The owner of "aaa" transfers it to GROUPS.IO, automatically creating an "me4aaa@..." account for me.?
  5. The owner of "bbb" transfers it to GROUPS.IO, automatically creating an "me4bbb@..." account for me.?
  6. Due to the actions of the group owners, I now have two separate GROUPS.IO accounts; each subscribed to one of the transferred Yahoo groups.
  7. I login as "me4aaa@...", and can see the "aaa" group; and can send messages to it from "me4aaa@...".
  8. I login as "me4bbb@...", and can see the "bbb" group; and can send messages to it from "me4bbb@...".
  9. I would like to be able to post messages to "aaa" (for example) from ANY of my three email addresses.?
  10. So, I login as "me4aaa@...",...
  11. If I try to create an alias to "me4ccc@...", it works just fine; allowing me to post messages to "aaa" from either?"me4aaa@..." or "me4ccc@...".
  12. If I try to create an alias to "me4bbb@...", I get an ERROR message (i.e., "That email address is already registered").

    QUESTION #1:? Why won't it let me define an alias to the "me4bbb@..." email address (in my "me4aaa@..." account)?? Since I thought that the purpose of aliases was to allow other inbound Email address to be recognized by the group; I don't see why (already registered) email addresses are blocked.? Is this to protect GROUPS.IO from some sort of a security vulnerability that I am unaware of?? ?PLEASE EXPLAIN???

  13. I guess that I might be able to re-login as "me4bbb@...", and re-JOIN the "[email protected]" group from that account; but that seems like a lot of work and wasteful, because (in the limiting case), I would need to have multiple memberships in nearly all of the groups I belong to.

    QUESTION #2:? Is there a better (e.g., more-direct and/or non-wasteful,...) way to allow me to send emails from ANY of my email addresses, and have them be recognized by either of my subscribed GROUPS.IO groups?

    QUESTION #3:? What happens when the owner of a Yahoo group (I belong to) referencing "me4ccc@..." transfers it to GROUPS.IO?

Respectfully,

... a new user


Re: bouncing

 

Margaret,

How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?
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Select the Bouncing list on your group's Members page.



That will give you a list of just the Bouncing and Bounced members.

Shal


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Re: bouncing

 

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 06:01 pm, A and M Parker wrote:
How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?

Go to Admin > Members, click on the top left drop down box and select Bouncing to see only the bouncing members.? You can then click on any member line any place except the check box to see their subscription and do more in depth analysis if you want.

Duane
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