Re: question regarding 'no mail'

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Not sure this will help you to see WHY Don, but I’ll give it a shot.

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Just so you might see WHY it is needed.? For 13 years I’ve had a 2,000 member group that is made up of ‘snowbirds’ who for 3 to 4 months of the year do not want ANY communication from my group.? It is understandable BECAUSE my group is so narrowly defined.? It is a way for these people to be free from my ssv forum emails during that time they can NOT be online.?

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The reason I wanted the option to be the only one to put them on ‘no mail’, is that there are times a person selects ‘no mail’ when they really are meaning they want digest rather than individual post and so rather than GO on no-mail, I am able to communicate with them and explain the difference.? But the way it is currently set up it is a ‘all or none’ option.

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Different strokes for different folks.? Or needs for some groups, not necessarily the needs for ALL groups.? That is why I’d like Mark to consider for a future update.? If you don’t want to use the option then you don’t have to, but right now that option is NOT AVAILABLE.?

Harlan

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] question regarding 'no mail'

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What I have never understood is why people join a particular group (Which obviously talks about something of interest to them), and do not want to keep up with what the group is talking about. Special Notices are almost like No Email as they are hardly ever sent out, so that setting should be adequate to any lurking member. There are times when moderators need to communicate something important to the group, so allowing a member to select the No Email option is a nonstarter to me.

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Don

Re: question regarding 'no mail'

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On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Don <dgrass1@...> wrote:

What I have never understood is why people join a particular group (Which obviously talks about something of interest to them), and do not want to keep up with what the group is talking about. I don’t understand it either because I want all messages sent to my email program where I read, sort, respond. and store both messages and responses. The immediacy is a unique quality of email groups.

But many people go to the website to read all messages, apparently for two reasons:

1. They prefer not to have all the email on their computer and do go to the website to read.

2. If you use a some free accounts (Hotmail?), you have to set up scripts or something to go get the mail. It isn’t just sent to your address. I understand this one less well but it means having to set up a command every time you join or leave a list.

I don’t like “no mail” because so many people join a list only to send announcements and don’t participate in discussions. I’m always suspicious of no mail subscribers. But increasingly more people are reading on websites.

And after having friends email accounts hacked on Yahoo and Google and losing all their files and messages, I don’t trust the cloud. As my 8 year old daughter told my 4 year old son, "We just finished our weather unit and clouds are just like fog. God is not up there sitting on a gold throne. He would be too heavy.” 

Sharon
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Re: question regarding 'no mail'

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Duane,

Thanks for suggestion and confirming fact I can’t do what I COULD do on yahoo.? Only ‘negative’ I’ve experienced since moving from Yahoo to Groups but the positives FAR outweigh this little ‘bump’. Don’t know the procedure to get something like this on Mark’s ‘to do’ list consideration, but I’d sure like to see it there as I feel I have a valid reason for needing this option for my group of close to 2,000.

Again, thanks for the quick reply.? I’m am SO appreciative of help like this that was NON-EXISTENT with yahoo.

Harlan

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Duane
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 4:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMF] question regarding 'no mail'

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There's not a way to do what you want.? My suggestion would be to allow No Email as a choice, then download the Members once in awhile for sorting by Email Delivery in a spreadsheet program.? Then you could copy the appropriate records to your spreadsheet.? An alternative would be to not allow No mail, so those people would be Special Notices by default, and not send any Special notices.

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Re: question regarding 'no mail'

J_Catlady

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On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 09:57 am, Don wrote:

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What I have never understood is why people join a particular group (Which obviously talks about something of interest to them), and do not want to keep up with what the group is talking about.

I'm "no email" in most of the groups I'm in. Many of us access groups mainly via the web. Not getting emails is not synonymous with not keeping up.
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Re: question regarding 'no mail'

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On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 09:57 am, Don wrote:

What I have never understood is why people join a particular group ... and do not want to keep up with what the group is talking about.

?Some folks are like me, they read everything online.? I got in the habit years ago because I didn't like wading through a bunch of email.

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Re: question regarding 'no mail'

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What I have never understood is why people join a particular group (Which obviously talks about something of interest to them), and do not want to keep up with what the group is talking about. Special Notices are almost like No Email as they are hardly ever sent out, so that setting should be adequate to any lurking member. There are times when moderators need to communicate something important to the group, so allowing a member to select the No Email option is a nonstarter to me.

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Don

Re: Truncated Email Addresses #issue

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This behavior will also occur if he's posting them by email and subsequently viewing them online without logging in. Not having people's email address viewable by just anyone who shows up is a very desirable system feature for spam avoidance.

Bruce

Re: Files section #files

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On Fri, Mar  9, 2018 at 04:02 am, Duane wrote:


You can put photos in the Files section, but it's a special feature that you
have to enable.? Duane, what would we do without you?
Thank you once again.

Marina

Re: question regarding 'no mail'

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On Saturday, March 10, 2018, 5:53:01 AM EST, Harlan Steinle <hsteinle@...> wrote:

What I did NOT realize is that by checking that box then the ‘no email’ option was even deleted for me as the moderator to use.? Is there a way that ONLY I as the Moderator can make a use the ‘no mail’ option when members ask me to put them ON ‘no mail’ status?

Thanks,

Harlan Steinle

Ssv forum @ groups.io

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Hi Harlan,

I don't see the need to have "No Mail." "Special Notices" does the same thing but keeps the ability for you to communicate with them & only you and other owners/moderators can use "Special Notices. There have been a few discussions on this list about Group Owners not being able to contact the "No Mail" members when doing the transfer. They had so many that it would have taken a lot of time to set them to "Special Delivery."

Just my opinion,

Paul, Ohio, USA

Re: question regarding 'no mail'

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There's not a way to do what you want.? My suggestion would be to allow No Email as a choice, then download the Members once in awhile for sorting by Email Delivery in a spreadsheet program.? Then you could copy the appropriate records to your spreadsheet.? An alternative would be to not allow No mail, so those people would be Special Notices by default, and not send any Special notices.

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Re: Truncated Email Addresses #issue

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On your group, go to Admin > Settings and scroll down to the Privacy section.? The last item there is "Hide Email Addresses In Archives".? If you change that to "Do not mask email addresses in the archives." and save the changes, the email addresses should show up.? There's a glitch, that I've reported to support, where they're still fig-leafed in a plain text only group for some reason.

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Truncated Email Addresses #issue

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A member reports that email addresses (name@somewhere) are being truncated (name@s....) when posted to the group.? He says he enters them correctly but when posted they're gone.... Not sure if this is a groups.io problem or something off on his end.

question regarding 'no mail'

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I did a search in the ‘help’ group but could not find an answer for my issue of what I want to do with ‘no mail’.

With Yahoo Groups I was able to have members contact me to change their status to ‘no mail’. That way I could track those on ‘no mail’ in the separate spreadsheet I keep on membership. In Groups.io I went into settings and selected MESSAGE POLICIES, then ‘checked’ Disable no email’.? The explanation under that check box says, ‘don’t allow members to set their deliver to no email’.

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What I did NOT realize is that by checking that box then the ‘no email’ option was even deleted for me as the moderator to use.? Is there a way that ONLY I as the Moderator can make a use the ‘no mail’ option when members ask me to put them ON ‘no mail’ status?

Thanks,

Harlan Steinle

Ssv forum @ groups.io

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Re: Photo Ownership

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Ken -
I understand your problems. Something quite similar was requested on beta a couple years ago. It is certainly needed in some groups, along with the ability to move and possibly resample or crop images. At that time there were much more pressing issues at hand that needed more immediate attention. See my comment at:
    2016-01-22

Along with this I would like to be able to resample, crop, or possibly enhance some images and still have the original poster retain ownership on them. Another comment here:
     2017-07-28

I think when a member leaves the group it makes sense for the ownership to be assigned to the group owner. However when the original poster is still a member it makes much more sense for the group owner to be able to reassign the files to the original poster.

I recognize some of the risks in this, and like a few other similar ownership privileges, perhaps this should be reserved for owners of Premium groups?

Dano

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Recently I transferred a list with 8,000 photos.  Fortunately I had chosen an intermediate image size and all the photos transferred due to being re-sized and storage is below the 1GB limit.
However a large number are orphaned, photo ownership was transferred to the groups.io list owner because the original poster of the photos was no longer in the members directory.  Evidently over the 19 years of the list many members had changed their e-mail accounts and YG had not transferred photo ownership.

At this time I can't see how to transfer the ownership of posted photos to the correct member.  I can just delete these albums of several hundred photos and have the photo owner repost all of them.
Seems like the moderator should be able to just change ownership and avoid reposting a lot of images.
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ken clark

Re: 2 Questions

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On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 08:01 pm, Bruce Bowman wrote:

/static/help#deleteaccount

Thank you.

?Dave

Re: 2 Questions

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/static/help#deleteaccount

Re: Approval of new members #addmembers #membership

Mike Conder

#5846

I have an initial message that asks people the question, and all new members' first posts are moderated.? Not perfect but works for me.? At least so far!

Mike Conder?

Re: 2 Questions

#5845

Correct. I get an error message then saying that the gmail address 'is already registered', and no alias is created on the Comcast membership.

Dave

Re: 2 Questions

#5844

David, to clarify - you deleted your Groups.io account associated with your Gmail address.
And then you went to Account (top right corner under your name) in your other Groups.io account and tried to add that Gmail address as an email alias.?Right??

Frances

2 Questions

#5843

So before I found where to insert an alias on my Grio account, I created a second account for myself using my gmail address, as my phone defaults to that when sending emails. Now, I want to eliminate 2 memberships for myself and use the second email as an alias instead. But when I try to do that, Grio won't let me as that second address 'is already registered'. I deleted my gmail membership in our group and deleted my gmail grio account. but it still won't let me use that address as an alias for the account I really want to use-- this Comcast address. What am I missing? Or is this not possible now that I have registered that gmail address?

And secondly, this doesn't have to do directly with Grio, but is sort of related to the first issue. It was brought to my attention that a certain member did not appear to be part of tne group any longer since we transferred. When I went back to Y!G to see if he was still a member there on transfer day, he wasn't. But the strange part is that he doesn't show up in the activity logs as leaving or being banned or forcibly removed.. looking back 3 years! Yet, he was a thorn in many other members' sides up until quite recently. Like Keyser Soze, it's like he never even existed. How did he do this?

Dave