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Re: Dumb Question of day -- How do I direct people to join my new group?
Arno,
In our 'get together' group there is one member who only sends one onI'd try J's suggestion 1 first - send him an invite. He may have been daunted by Yahoo Groups' rigamarole for joining, especially if he tried to get a Yahoo Account so as to access the group's web resources. With Groups.io this is so much more streamlined that he might succeed. You could mention in the invitation text just how easy it is. Including simply replying to the invitation if all he wants is to read and post by email. Or as Bruce and J said, you can upgrade your group to Premium in order to do a Direct Add of his address. Fortunately you don't have to make more than a one month commitment if you decide to go this route. Click on your Group's Upgrade page, then on the "View/Change Plan" button over to the right. In the list of plans there is "Group Transfer (Premium For One Month)". That option is there to support transfers from lists on platforms other than Yahoo Groups or Google Groups, which have no automatic transfer support. But I've found that is also very handy and cost-saving for groups like PTA groups who tend to collect the majority of their members at a single yearly event (school registration). But I think it can also work out well for groups in the aftermath of a transfer from Yahoo, who have a bunch of addresses that didn't get copied, or due to renewed outreach have collected a bunch of addresses from people who are just now taking an interest in the group. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Groups.io site updates - transfer progress for prior requests?
Harlan,
Is this 'track the progress of transfers' available ONLY to newI don't know, but I suspect "yes". ... or in my case--I requested the transfer of my group on theIf you click on the "Easy Group Transfer" link at the bottom of any page, then click on Yahoo Group Instructions that should bring up the new instructions. Scroll to the very bottom and on the left is a green button to Start New Transfer. On the right is an "In Process" box with a drop-list of your "in process" groups. Select one of those to see its status. The thing is, this form and that In Process list are tied to your current log in at Groups.io. Whereas the old process, up to the moment you sent in the "Go" email was not. So the question is whether Mark was able to take all those outstanding Go requests and add them to this mechanism. I don't know, but if you have a look perhaps you'll be able to give us an answer, at least for your case. FWIW, the status isn't particularly exciting. If you haven't clicked Go it says so, and offers the opportunity to update your request as well as the Go button. If you have clicked "Go" it says that you have, and your request options are disabled (can no longer be updated). It does not show the one thing I'd like to see - either an ETA or a raw count of groups ahead of me in line. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: how to recover attachments from YG
Only in a round about way.? You'd have to copy the attachments to your group files or photos section, as appropriate.? Then you could edit the messages to include a link to the new location.? It wouldn't strictly be an attachment, but should serve the same purpose.
Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Q: posts during the transfer/welcome message/size to save attachments?
Mindy,
1) I haven't seen any discussion of this, so perhaps it's not anSome of those messages will post before the copy reaches that point in the Y!Group's conversations; those will get copied. Those that post after won't. Is there a way to add on the messages after, if some do get left out?Not automatically. I believe you'd have to post them to the Groups.io group manually. 2) As an aside, does the "welcome to groups.io" message go out to theNothing happens at the point where you click the "Go" button (or previously, sent the Go message). When the copy completes (which currently may be several days later) the system optionally sends two emails: 1) "You have been added to GroupEmailAddresss". This message is sent if you don't uncheck the "Send a message to your members when the transfer is complete" box on the transfer form. 2) The active Welcome notice from your group's Member Notices page. Before clicking Go I made a second Welcome notice, tailored specifically for the members who would be copied in, and made that one Active. Afterwards I made the normal Welcome notice active once more. 3) Attachments are not so important on our group although we'd like toThose sizes are for photos, not documents. So "readable" will depend on what the content of those photos is. That small is fine for a person's head shot, but probably wouldn't be adequate to show fine detail in a scene or a project. Also what setting option in Default Sub Settings > Max attachment sizeYou know your membership best, but I'd use "Unlimited" because most of my members would likely be using desktop computers with a decent internet connection. If most of your members are likely to be using metered or limited connectivity you might want to set it small or even zero. As well, will this impact just how the message is saved in theThe Max Attachment Size under Default Sub Settings is a default for individual members. It has no impact on the Messages archive or the group as a whole. The Max Size in Email in the Photos section of the group's Settings page affects both how the photos are stored and how they are distributed out to the group in email. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Q: posts during the transfer/welcome message/size to save attachments?
>> What happens to the posts on our YG group while waiting for the transfer and/or while the
>> transfer is happening (which seems to take a few days, based on a recent post)? Nothing happens to the messages other than being read by the transfer agent. Also, the delay in transfer is because so many requests are in queue waiting to occur, not because it takes several days to do one transfer. >> does the "welcome to groups.io" message go out to the group immediately... Yes, it does. I would have preferred the option to defer it, but that functionality does not currently exist to my knowledge. >> Attachments are not so important on our group although we'd like to keep them in the archives. I don't fully understand this question but will mention two configuration options that may bear on it. The "best size" for you depends on how many are sent and at what point you want to run out of space (1 GB total in the free version). There is an option to delete old attachments as news ones are added, which is what we set on our groups. This is generally preferable to the alternative -- that the group will refuse to accept further attachments or uploads until you go in and delete some manually. There is also a setting to limit the size of attachments that will go out in group emails. This is limited mainly to the largest size that you feel every member's email server will accept before they bounce the message back for being too large. If you set that to...say...4MB, anything larger than that will still be stored on the server; but the emails that go out will contain a link to the document on the server instead of a copy of the document itself.? I hope that made sense. Bruce |
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Re: Transfer Group from Yahoo
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhen my YG was active I would periodically review the Membership List, and anyone that had selected No Email was changed to Special Notice. I was glad to see Groups.io gave the owner the option, in whether No Email was allowed or not. ? Don ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman ? Like you, Al, our migration and the inability to adequately notify people about it has left a bad taste in my mouth for Yahoo's "no email" option. I don't plan to abuse the "special notices" privilege but we have chosen to eliminate "no email" from our groups.io sites for exactly the same reason. |
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Re: Transfer Group from Yahoo
Like you, Al, our migration and the inability to adequately notify people about it has left a bad taste in my mouth for Yahoo's "no email" option. I don't plan to abuse the "special notices" privilege but we have chosen to eliminate "no email" from our groups.io sites for exactly the same reason.
Bruce |
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Re: Transfer Group from Yahoo
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 01:05 pm, Judy Hall - Punch with Judy wrote:
No matter what you do, it's possible that some messages will get lost in the shuffle. Personally, I allowed users to continue to post to Yahoo while we waited for transfer. The transfer agent will not shut down your Yahoo group...everything will still be there. What I did, as soon as the transfer completed, I put the Yahoo group on "moderated" status.?This served as a gentle reminder that the group was now defunct and people needed to go to the new group. Then I took the list of un-transferred stuff that the agent sent me and tried to download those materials myself from Yahoo. Success with this was marginal -- if the agent had trouble getting it, odds are that you will, too. Difficulties with bouncing members and spam filters varies a great deal depending on each person's ISP, email client, and how computer--savvy they are. I think your best bet is to warn people about these possibilities, hope for the best, and help clean up the mess afterward.? Good luck! Bruce
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Re: Transfer Group from Yahoo
Hello Judy, The Yahoo Group remains as is unless you delete the group, or in some way restrict.? I know in my group posting to the Yahoo Group has been disabled.? As well if anyone tries to join the Yahoo Group they are referred to Groups.io. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Judy Hall - Punch with Judy <judy@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GMF] Transfer Group from Yahoo ?
Thank you Bruce, this is indeed very good advice, though not all wonderful to look forward to.? Hadn¡¯t realised that everything would not be transferred over.? In the Interim, does that mean whilst waiting that there is no active group postings etc?? When completed, is the Yahoo Group no longer in existence? Because I have a separate email list of all students, separate to the Yahoo Group list of members, after I advise them of my intentions to move the group, I have already conducted a poll, do I have to advise them to make sure the link address is in their approved listing, ie white listed? Again, I appreciate your past experience advice. ? Judy [excess quote trimmed by moderator] |
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