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Re: Subscription Approval Problem

 

Good point - I did double-check and make sure I was looking at the correct directory in the Admin section but no dice.
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Kevin Conod
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From: Duane <txpigeon@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Subscription Approval Problem

The Directory may or may not have people listed, depending on their Profile choices.? You should be looking at Admin > Members > Pending Members.

Duane
Emails marked incorrectly as "possibly spoofed"

 

A group I own has just been transferred from Yahoo.? Gmail is marking the emails I send to my group at the new location as "possibly spoofed."?? Is there any way to prevent this, or is it a gmail issue?

Sara Tarpley
Re: What happens to the YG

 

The transfer process 'copies' the information from YG to Groups.io, and
nothing is lost at the YG. The only thing that is not transferred are
Attachments.

Don
Re: A Transferred Attachment

 

Shal,

Thanks for taking the time on this mystery. A good mystery puts a little spice into the mix though huh.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] A Transferred Attachment

Don,

> The image was done by another person, and they told how they did it.
> They "composed message with Rich Text Editor function. Drag/dropped > photo into message editor."

If I recall correctly, image drag-and-drop to the RTE only worked if the image was hosted somewhere, and the result was an "http" type of image.
So that likely answers the mystery: it wasn't an attachment, properly speaking.

Shal


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Re: Archive Search

 

I didn't ask my groups if they wanted to move to another site or not, it was
a management decision on my part to move, because I was the main person
keeping it all together. I have not had a single complaint with the move,
and plenty of compliments for the fast action of getting us out of Y. While
the archive search engine on Y is more flexible, I don't think it is as good
as it was before the Neo upgrade. While most anything can be improved to
some degree, I'm pleased with the Groups.io search capabilities for now.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Stan Gorodenski
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Archive Search

As I mentioned, an individual in my yahoo discussion group is against the
move to IO because of having to learn a lot of stuff all over. One concern
of his was searching the archives. I see in IO that the search can only be
refined to messages and polls, and a time frame. I looked in yahoo and it
has a better search engine. It allows a search not only by time, but by
Subject, the presence or absence of a particular author, and the presence or
absence of a particular phrase in the message. Are there any plans to make
the search engine in IO more powerful?
Stan
Re: Moderating

 

"Historically this has a precedent in Yahoo Groups as well. For many years four user-to-user help groups, EmailList-Managers, ListHelp, GroupManagersForum, and Yahoo_group_of_groups were listed in Yahoo's help pages as alternate places for help."

I took over a Y group around 10 years ago (My, how time passes), and periodically I used whatever help I could find on Y. I have to say though, the help on Groups.io GMF is far superior to anything I experienced on Y.

Don
Re: Deleting Messages

 

Loopy,

Where are the attachments stored because I don't need those either.
You access/delete them through the messages they came in with.

Except photos, those can be seen in the Emailed Photos album. But not deleted from there, I'm not sure why.

Shal


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Re: Subscription Approval Problem

 

The Directory may or may not have people listed, depending on their Profile choices.? You should be looking at Admin > Members > Pending Members.

Duane
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Re: Subscription Approval Problem

J_Catlady
 

I would report that to Mark ([email protected]) and give him all the details, including copies of emails, a link to your activity log, etc.

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Kevin Conod via Groups.Io <kdconod@...> wrote:
I have a member who applied for membership, so I tried to reply by email to approve but the email bounced back.

Meanwhile in the "Activity" log reads correctly "johnsmith@... for membership"
Yet if I look at the Directory he is not listed as pending nor approved.

So how can approve something I can't see?

Kevin Conod
kdconod@...
Re: Moderating

J_Catlady
 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 06:47 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Have you cc'd the Group_Help+Owner address on this?
Shal,

I never would have brought it up in this forum if (a) I had not mentioned it to Marlin several times in the past with no result (just refusal), and (b) the group was brought up publicly here.

It seems that he has finally removed the offending sentence. Thank you, Marlin.

As for Stan's comment that it wasn't intentional: it never is.

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Re: Moderating

 

On 2/18/2018 8:39 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Walter,
Much better! But you'd really want to take a whack at the entire group discussion. This was just the most egregious section...

What else is wrong with it?


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Subscription Approval Problem

 

I have a member who applied for membership, so I tried to reply by email to approve but the email bounced back.

Meanwhile in the "Activity" log reads correctly "johnsmith@... for membership"
Yet if I look at the Directory he is not listed as pending nor approved.

So how can approve something I can't see?

Kevin Conod
kdconod@...
Re: Moderating

 

J,

Here's your improvement, absolutely free of charge:

/It is intended that any member who has an answer or comment will
voice their response. Rather than having any one authority source,
this is intended as more of a discussion group than some of the other
help groups./
"Your"? Have you cc'd the Group_Help+Owner address on this?

I'd suggest posting in the group, but there's a chicken-and-egg problem with that, I guess.

Shal


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Re: Moderating

J_Catlady
 

Walter,
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Much better! But you'd really want to take a whack at the entire group discussion. This was just the most egregious section...
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Walter Underwood <wunder@...> wrote:
¡°Any member can answer or comment. This is a discussion group. Please contribute.¡±
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Short sentences, clear to people who don¡¯t have English as a first language. Avoids dissing other groups.
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wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
??(my?blog)


[Mod note: speaking of which, I'm not sure where this sub-thread is going, but there's some peril our advice could be seen as "dissing" another group here. Let's step back from that.]
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Re: Another part of Deleting Messages

 

There's not a way that I'm aware of.? It can (and does) get a bit confusing if you start looking for one of the messages that has appeared, but has been deleted.? I've thought about asking for a way to delete some items, but then realized that wouldn't be a good idea.? The activity log should really be a log of all activity..

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Re: Changing default sort in files.

 

Not yet.? It's on the TODO list, as are many other improvements.?

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Re: Deleting Messages

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Thanks Shal

I guess it's not a problem.? I just thought it would be cleaner and neater not to have the messages there.? I'm kind of a perfectionist and don't like clutter ...lol
As for the Hashtags I just went right past that because I don't have a clue about those.

Where are the attachments stored because I don't need those either.? :)

Thanks for answering my question.??

Loopy C.
Re: Moderating

 

¡°Any member can answer or comment. This is a discussion group. Please contribute.¡±
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Short sentences, clear to people who don¡¯t have English as a first language. Avoids dissing other groups.
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wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/??(my?blog)


[Mod note: speaking of which, I'm not sure where this sub-thread is going, but there's some peril our advice could be seen as "dissing" another group here. Let's step back from that.]


On Feb 18, 2018, at 6:00 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Here's your improvement, absolutely free of charge:
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It is intended that any member who has an answer or comment will voice their response. Rather than having any one authority source, this is intended as more of a discussion group than some of the other help groups.
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You could improve it further, but that would be good enough.
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Re: Groups.io logos, nomenclature, etc.

RFS
 

FWIW, our members have always referred to our neighborhood Yahoo Group as "the listserv". I'm guessing it's a holdover from back in the day when it actually WAS a listserv. And it would normally annoy me, except that's how 99% of our members use it, anyway. Most never login. They just do everything over email. That Groups.io lets them continue doing that ensures the "listserv" will live on. ;-)

But it sounded like your users would actually use it more of a collaboration site, so I didn't mention it before.
Re: Moderating

J_Catlady
 

Here's your improvement, absolutely free of charge:

It is intended that any member who has an answer or comment will voice their response. Rather than having any one authority source, this is intended as more of a discussion group than some of the other help groups.

You could improve it further, but that would be good enough.

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I have not joined group_help because the moderators have refused, on some kind of principle, to make a simple change to their group description - namely, removal of the parentheses in this sentence of their group description:

It is intended that any member who has an answer or comment will voice his (or her) response, rather than having any one authority source, this is to be more of a discussion group than some of the other help groups.
Not only would removing the parens eliminate the unfortunate (if unintentional) casting of women as an afterthought, but it would also go a long way towards improving the already suspect grammatical construction of the sentence.

C'mon, guys. Removing a set of parens. Why is that so hard?

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