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Re: Messages not always emailed #issue

Southenders Admin
 

Thanks Shal.
I was asked as the moderator of my board by Groups.
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New Member message when joining a group

 

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One thing I liked about Yahoo groups was that when someone joined, they were asked to type a little message as to why they wanted to join.? Then when you went to approve members, you would see their message and this would give you some reassurance it wasn't a spammer.? This saved me from getting hundreds of spammers joining one of my larger groups.

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I'm not seeing where we can turn on such a feature, unless I am missing something.? Do any of you know if we have such a feature at groups.io

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Scott Myers
Re: Subgroup creation, better before or after Yahoo transfer?

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 09:15 am, Sharon Villines wrote:


I would create at least one subgroup when you create the list because creating
the subgroup changes the address of the main group:
Initial group name: [name]@groups.io
Subgroup created: facilities@[name].groups.io
After subgroup created the main list becomes: main@[name].groups.io

Messages to [email protected] are still delivered but when the directions use one
name and that name is changed to something else, people get confused.
Logically, two names means they are two different things.
Thank you for this important information, Sharon! I didn't know about the group name change.

I created the 2 subgroups, but had to update Welcome notice, Guidelines and Wiki of main group to reflect the change in the address :-(
I also changed 'main' to the old Yahoo group name. It's been around for 19 years, I don't want to confuse my members.

Marina
Re: a new member and some help please

 

yes thats true but ive found people tend to go no mail when go onleave anyhow and i suppose it depends on amount of members/mail and both of that low at moment
jackiep

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On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 7:52 AM, Tony Moody <aim@...> wrote:
Jackiep,

There are two imperative reasons why I want NoMail setting.
1/.. When I go on leave,
2/.. When I view my mail on line

Having a NoMail setting is an essential feature.
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OK,
Tony
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Re: Site Updates - How Does He Do It! #testimonials

David P. Dillard
 

I certainly have shared your wonder that what he does all by himself is
possible for one human being to accomplish, he is a marvel. Groups.io is the best discussion group network I have discovered by a huge margin. His
management of this service is incredible.





Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, Don wrote:

I was looking through just 'some' of the Site Updates Mark reports on, and I
don't know how he finds enough hours in a day to keep this site running.
Between fixing Bugs, Changes,?SYSADMIN, New, Internals, Security, Beta, and
anything else involved in keeping Groups.io running, not including all the
Transfers of groups to here, makes me glad I'm retired! From what I've read,
it appears he does this all by himself too. If Mark is making any money
doing this, he surely deserves it.
Don
Re: Wiki - Status Badges on the Members List

 

Hi Nancy,

Ok, I've substantially fleshed it in, and changed its title to Status Badges on the Members List. I've also added a link to it in the Best Practices for Group Management section of the wiki home page.

Everyone is encouraged to proof-read it to be sure I haven't messed up the descriptions or forgotten something of importance. It would be great if it were checked for consistency in fact and terminology with the Groups.io Help page and with messages about these badges both here in GMF and in beta.

Shal
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Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

 

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Gina,
To parse, edit etc a .csv list
  • I usually put the the .csv into a spreadsheet.
  • Importing into the sheet should do most of the parsing into columns. I usually use Gnumeric and that will most times do an Import on Pasting the .csv.
  • Select the Names column and do a Find Replace. ie Find (space) Replace with (comma). Should give you firstname,lastname
  • Copy this column and paste into empty columns. This should auto into two columns. Voila.
  • If not then Paste into a plaintext program; Textedit? Then SelectAll and Copy Paste back into the spreadsheet.?

OK,
Tony




On 15 Feb 2018 at 20:41, Night Owls Owner wrote about :
Subject : [GMF] applescript to parse csv disp

applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

Mac user here.
I manage a 100+ member group. We have monthly meetings and I use the members "download" option to generate a sign in sheet for the meetings.
We require members to use their real first and last names as their Display Name. The problem is, this is one field and when I load the csv file into numbers it puts the first and last name in one field. I can then only sort by first name. This is causing chaos at our sign in tables!!!
Here is a sample of the csv file (I've bolded what I want to change)
"Email","Display Name","Username","Joined","Status(0=Normal,1=Pending,2=Banned)","Post Status(0=Normal,1=Moderated,2=NotAllowed)","Email Delivery(0=Single,1=Digest,2=Special,3=None)","Message Selection(0=All,1=Follow Only,2=Follow Only And First)","Auto Follow Replies","Mod Status(0=None,1=Moderator,2=Owner)","User Status(0=Not Confirmed,1=Confirmed,2=Inactive,3=Bouncing,4=Bounced)"
" xxx@..."," Jane Doe","","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,false,0,1
" xxx@..."," Rodger Rabbit ","NightOwls","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,false,2,1
" xxx@..."," Thomas Jefferson","","8/10/2017",0,0,0,0,false,0,1
If I can get the csv file to look like this, I can sort by last name in numbers:
"Email","Display Name","Username","Joined","Status(0=Normal,1=Pending,2=Banned)","Post Status(0=Normal,1=Moderated,2=NotAllowed)","Email Delivery(0=Single,1=Digest,2=Special,3=None)","Message Selection(0=All,1=Follow Only,2=Follow Only And First)","Auto Follow Replies","Mod Status(0=None,1=Moderator,2=Owner)","User Status(0=Not Confirmed,1=Confirmed,2=Inactive,3=Bouncing,4=Bounced)"
" xxx@..."," Jane","Doe ","","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,false,0,1
" xxx@..."," Rodger","Rabbi t","NightOwls","8/2/2017",0,0,0,0,false,2,1
" xxx@..."," Thomas","Jefferson ","","8/10/2017",0,0,0,0,false,0,1
I know how to fix this. Write a script to do the following:
ignore the first row.
for every subsequent row change all spaces to "," .
BUT, I've never written a script! I've poked around and figured our it will be in AppleScript using the Script Editor. I've found some tutorials (did an easy one) and think with time (lot's of time!) I could work it out BUT if someone has already done this could you share your code with me?
Regards, Gina
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Re: a new member and some help please

 

Jackiep,

There are two imperative reasons why I want NoMail setting.
1/.. When I go on leave,
2/.. When I view my mail on line

Having a NoMail setting is an essential feature.
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OK,
Tony


On 15 Feb 2018 at 22:08, Jackie Preval via Groups.Io wrote about :
Subject : Re: [GMF] a new member and some hel

i understood that members couldnt make the no mail choice, i think its best if they cant as get more out of group if join in so will be interested to see reply
jackiep

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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases

 

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Duane,

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Having a new owner enter a new row is an option worth thinking about, so I will. ? I¡¯m going have that same problems with the old member¡¯s photos too¡­I can see there¡¯s going to be a lot of downloading/uploading going on. ?

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Don

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Who Can View And Modify Databases

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Unfortunately, there's no way to assign ownership to a row, other than having the member enter it themselves with the 'Moderators, the Table Owner, and the Row Owner' choice set.? That wouldn't work later when another member bought the boat though.? One way to work around that would be to have the new owner enter a new row, then you could delete the old one.? As you mentioned, it might be simpler for you to coordinate it all. ;>)

Duane
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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases

 

Unfortunately, there's no way to assign ownership to a row, other than having the member enter it themselves with the 'Moderators, the Table Owner, and the Row Owner' choice set.? That wouldn't work later when another member bought the boat though.? One way to work around that would be to have the new owner enter a new row, then you could delete the old one.? As you mentioned, it might be simpler for you to coordinate it all. ;>)

Duane
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Re: Two Levels of moderation

 

Duane,

This is a bit misleading because it doesn't generate a pending
subscription in the main group. (I'll report this to support.)
But it does generate "Subscription Approval Needed" notices to the moderators of the primary group. I received no notifications relating to the subgroup.

Shal


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Re: Two Levels of moderation

 

Follow up:? If someone that's not a member of the main group finds the subgroup and clicks on the Join button, they'll see the message, "You cannot subscribe to this subgroup until your subscription to the parent group is approved."? This is a bit misleading because it doesn't generate a pending subscription in the main group.? (I'll report this to support.)

Duane
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Re: Two Levels of moderation

 

A person can't join a subgroup unless they're a member of the main group.? Once they're in the main group, they could join the subgroup and post immediately without the spam control, but would need to post twice on the main group (based on your previous comment.)

You can change the Privacy > Visibility setting for the subgroup so that it's not listed on the main group Home page.? I don't think non-members of the main group see it though.

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Re: Who Can View And Modify Databases

 

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We have one dbase in particular that I¡¯m usually the only one that keeps it up to date, but I¡¯ve always trusted our members not to mess things up as they edit their information. This dbase holds basic information about our members and their sailboats (We all have the same kind of boats), but over time members sell their boats to other people and leave the group, and usually the new owner becomes a new member of the group. When this happens then some information needs to be updated, and over time even this information needs to be updated again. Updating never really ends unless the boat is destroyed, and when this happens the information becomes archival.

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Back at YG each member had a row of information about themselves they could edit if they wanted, but by default I was the one that generally really did it. I don¡¯t remember having these dbase options at YG, so this is a learning thing for me on how it will work at Groups.io. Since before the transfer to Groups.io some members had left our Y group, but their information stayed so it could be edited in the future as circumstances changed. After the transfer to Groups.io more members dropped out, but new members have joined the group, and some of these members are new owners of boats in the dbase. From what you¡¯ve said it sounds like only I will be able to edit many rows of information, because the original owners that entered the information are no longer members, and new owners will not be edit the information. So maybe I should just let the members view the information, and leave it up to moderators to edit the rows as new information becomes available.

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Don

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Re: Two Levels of moderation

 

Duane,
I created a group with four subgroups. I went back in and removed the spam control setting for one of the groups as you suggested/implied. However, at the home page for the subgroup it still gives an email address to subscribe to the subgroup. What is happening here? If someone sees this subgroup on the internet and subscribes to it, since the spam is removed for this subgroup will they have to pass the moderation criteria of the main group, or will they be permitted to join the subgroup and submit messages without any moderation?

Also, one of the four subgroups is tailored just for the main group. It would make no sense to give someone the capability to subscribe to the subgroup, but yet an email address is provided to do just that. Is there a way to eliminate all the subscription and unsubscription email addresses in the home page of a subgroup?
Stan

On 2/15/2018 10:31 PM, Duane wrote:
They're independent. They could meet either criteria for that group or subgroup without meeting both. As you have it set, they'd need 2 approved posts in each group. Note that you don't have to choose a Spam Control on a subgroup only the main group.

Duane
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Re: re delayed message

 

Win,

I sent a message to my group 12 hours ago, it has not yet appeared on
the web site nor in my In Box.
Could it be in the group's Pending list?

How can I find out what caused the delay...
If it still hasn't arrived, check the group's activity log around the time it was sent. It might say there if it was rejected for any reason.

If it does arrive, you may be able to parse the Received header fields to find the "hop" at which the delay occurred. In a case like this it might show the hop from your email service to Groups.io's inbound server was the source of the delay. But that still doesn't tell you why.

Shal


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Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

 

If it will help any, I found how to do the Replace using the Mac TextEdit program -

Duane
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Re: 1 GB limit and removing stuff to make more room?

 

Thanks, Duane. That clears it up.
Stan

On 2/15/2018 10:25 PM, Duane wrote:
Chats are like temporary subgroups. Most folks use them as an IRC for a discussion that doesn't need to be on the group. Anything posted there isn't sent out as an email. Only one of my groups has them enabled because that's the only one that has a use for them.

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Re: Two Levels of moderation

 

They're independent.? They could meet either criteria for that group or subgroup without meeting both.? As you have it set, they'd need 2 approved posts in each group.? Note that you don't have to choose a Spam Control on a subgroup only the main group.

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Re: applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?

 

Gina,

applescript to parse csv display name into 2 fields?
Windows user here. I don't know applescript, but if you have access to Excel I have a formula to extract just the last name (I faced the same sortability issue with my PTA group's roster):

=MID(B2,SEARCH(" ",B2,1)+1,20)

In the above, B2 should be replaced by the cell on this row containing the combined display name. This formula would be placed in every row of the list (except the first), in a new column.

With some limitation: It just takes everything after the first space as the Last Name. In some cases I had to manually fix the result before sorting and printing.

I didn't bother to make a first name field, I only needed to sort by last name.

Shal


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