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Re: who's not in a subgroup?

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 07:42 AM, Frances wrote:
It shows display name, email address, subgroup that person belongs to.
And all clickable.
The subgroup isn't sortable, but Name and Email are.

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Re: who's not in a subgroup?

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 05:15 AM, Jeremy Harrison wrote:
Further, I see that that Admin > Subgroups does not provide any sort facility beyond 'name': neither by e-mail address, nor subgroup membership. Both I would suggest highly desirable, especially for larger groups.
It shows display name, email address, subgroup that person belongs to.
And all clickable.

Frances
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Re: who's not in a subgroup?

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 05:59 AM, Jeannette Bellerose wrote:
Ideally, a membership list would include all the subgroups the main group's members are part of. I'm gonna suggest this to the beat group

That¡¯s already a feature, at least in my Legacy main group: Under ¡°Admin¡±, click on ¡°Subgroups¡± and you¡¯ll see the members¡¯ list with a column for subgroup. It will be checked for subgroup members.
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Further, I see that that Admin > Subgroups does not provide any sort facility beyond 'name': neither by e-mail address, nor subgroup membership. Both I would suggest highly desirable, especially for larger groups.

Jeremy

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Re: who's not in a subgroup?

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 05:59 AM, Jeannette Bellerose wrote:
Ideally, a membership list would include all the subgroups the main group's members are part of. I'm gonna suggest this to the beat group

That¡¯s already a feature, at least in my Legacy main group: Under ¡°Admin¡±, click on ¡°Subgroups¡± and you¡¯ll see the members¡¯ list with a column for subgroup. It will be checked for subgroup members.
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Jeannette B.
While Admin > Subgroups does show who is/is not a member of subgroups, it does not provide a download facility, which I think desirable. But perhaps the information should be included in the main members list download.

Jeremy
Re: who's not in a subgroup?

 

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:15 AM, Brooke Brooks wrote:
To clarify, are you saying run a script to cross-check the two spreadsheets?
Yes although it wouldn't have to be a written by you script per se, it could also be done visually in Excel by linking the two spreadsheets using the user_id field, that's the unique id for a groups.io account.? You can then specify to give you all the records which exist in both the main and subgroup and have the same user_id.

Cheers,
Christos
Re: who's not in a subgroup?

 

Ideally, a membership list would include all the subgroups the main group's members are part of. I'm gonna suggest this to the beat group

That¡¯s already a feature, at least in my Legacy main group: Under ¡°Admin¡±, click on ¡°Subgroups¡± and you¡¯ll see the members¡¯ list with a column for subgroup. It will be checked for subgroup members.
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Jeannette B.
Re: who's not in a subgroup?

 

hello, thanks for the suggestion. ?I downloaded the main membership list and it does not include the subgroup affiliations. To clarify, are you saying run a script to cross-check the two spreadsheets?

Ideally, a membership list would include all the subgroups the main group's members are part of. I'm gonna suggest this to the beat group?
Re: When groups.io is down....

 

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MB| The web browser said unable to resolve DNS.
| I'm glad I wasn't alone on that weird fault.


The two machines that serve DNS records
for Groups.io came under attack around
midnight (from Sun 23 to Mon 24) Pacific
Time.

The complete explanation:

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fletcher
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 11:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: [beta] Delivery issues with Gmail and others #outage
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Hi All,

Around midnight last night Pacific time, the two machines that serve DNS records for Groups.io came under attack. DNS is
the thing that takes a domain name, like 'groups.io', and tells you what machine on the Internet corresponds to it. When
someone attacks a DNS server, the goal is to make it so that nobody can reach the associated website.

To blunt the attack, I upgraded both machines and also set some rules that would automatically block traffic from the
attackers. In all, about 25k machines were used to send bogus requests to the servers, with something over 1M requests
per second at peak. Traffic came back to normal levels and I went back to bed.

Unfortunately, the automatic blocking snared Gmail, Comcast, and perhaps others, such that they decided that we didn't
have valid DNS records and blocked email from us. This lasted from around 3am Pacific Time until around 6:30am Pacific
Time.

Users who had email blocked will not be put on bouncing status because of this.

I sincerely apologize for this. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mark


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Re: Google not permitting messages from our Group

 

Thank you everybody for your valued advice which I have passed on to the recipient whose ISP (gmail) refused a message.? Unfortunately, he is not particularly IT minded so we'll see.
Incidentally, I sent the same message and its attachment to another member who has a Gmail account and it was successfully received so it looks as if it is down to an IT literate friend to help our man!
Re: When groups.io is down....

 

Ah, I'm glad you posted this.
Yesterday the 24th, the app suddenly stopped working and produced "web page is not available".
I tried my tablet and then my desktop via the web browser - all down.
I had to nip out and while out I got a app notification. So I thought it was back on.
Got home and it wasn't working, tried many things and proved this.

Working fine via 4G (UK Vodafone & EE)
Not working via DSL. (UK Openreach - Murphx)

I tried changing DNS provider to no avail.
I rang my ISP tech and it worked for him.
I tried another router and eliminated my existing home network, still no joy.
My ISP said he didn't know what to suggest other than local cabinet issues.
A few hours later and still no joy it just started working having done nothing and has been stable since.
Started around 9am UTC and restored sometime around 3pm UTC.
The web browser said unable to resolve DNS.
I'm glad I wasn't alone on that weird fault.
Re: When groups.io is down....

 

Nancy . . .


On Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:31:48 +0000 (UTC), "Nancy P via groups.io"
<npeyton223@...> wrote:

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.?
When I wonder if a site is down, I use a link checker like this one:



(There are others.)


Donald



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Re: When groups.io is down....

 

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 09:47 AM, Nancy P wrote:
morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:
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Minor thing - the URL is https
My browser auto-corrected when I clicked on your link.

Frances
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Re: When groups.io is down....

Glenn Glazer
 

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On 07/24/2023 07:32, Glenn Glazer wrote:
On 07/24/2023 07:05, Malcolm Austen wrote:
On 24 July 2023 14:31:48 (+01:00), Nancy P via groups.io wrote:

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

That site is, I believe, hosted quite separately. The footer says it is hosted by statuspage.io and that's the domain notices come from if you subscribe.

Of course, there might be doubt about the effectiveness of the detection of the status of the various subsystems perhaps?

Malcolm.

As Malcolm notes, the HTTP side and the SMTP side can be up or down independently. However, I have found this site:



generally useful for determining if websites are up.

You may also wish to subscribe to the since when things are down, Mark usually sends a note to that list.

Best,

Glenn

This just in on the beta list:

On 07/24/2023 07:45, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hi All,

Around midnight last night Pacific time, the two machines that serve DNS records for Groups.io came under attack. DNS is the thing that takes a domain name, like 'groups.io', and tells you what machine on the Internet corresponds to it. When someone attacks a DNS server, the goal is to make it so that nobody can reach the associated website.

To blunt the attack, I upgraded both machines and also set some rules that would automatically block traffic from the attackers. In all, about 25k machines were used to send bogus requests to the servers, with something over 1M requests per second at peak. Traffic came back to normal levels and I went back to bed.

Unfortunately, the automatic blocking snared Gmail, Comcast, and perhaps others, such that they decided that we didn't have valid DNS records and blocked email from us. This lasted from around 3am Pacific Time until around 6:30am Pacific Time.

Users who had email blocked will not be put on bouncing status because of this.

I sincerely apologize for this. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mark

Best,

Glenn

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Re: When groups.io is down....

Glenn Glazer
 

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On 07/24/2023 07:05, Malcolm Austen wrote:
On 24 July 2023 14:31:48 (+01:00), Nancy P via groups.io wrote:

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

That site is, I believe, hosted quite separately. The footer says it is hosted by statuspage.io and that's the domain notices come from if you subscribe.

Of course, there might be doubt about the effectiveness of the detection of the status of the various subsystems perhaps?

Malcolm.

As Malcolm notes, the HTTP side and the SMTP side can be up or down independently. However, I have found this site:



generally useful for determining if websites are up.

You may also wish to subscribe to the since when things are down, Mark usually sends a note to that list.

Best,

Glenn

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sic semper tyrannis
Re: When groups.io is down....

 

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That link is working now from here and shows no incidents since at least Jul 10.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nancy P via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] When groups.io is down....

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...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

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Re: When groups.io is down....

 

On 24 July 2023 14:31:48 (+01:00), Nancy P via groups.io wrote:

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

That site is, I believe, hosted quite separately. The footer says it is hosted by statuspage.io and that's the domain notices come from if you subscribe.

Of course, there might be doubt about the effectiveness of the detection of the status of the various subsystems perhaps?

Malcolm.

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Re: When groups.io is down....

 

I am not aware of any down time lately and the last on the status link you posted was June 7th

So suspect its your system/ISP that may be the problem rather than groups.io

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 24/07/2023 14:31, Nancy P via groups.io wrote:
...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:
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When groups.io is down....

 

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:
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Re: Google not permitting messages from our Group

 

On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:11, KATHLEEN DESMAISONS wrote:

About the gmail refusal. If the owner of the gmail account authenticates it,
it goes through. ?We just tell our gmail people to be sure to authenticate
I got a bounce message from Google, but not for one of my posts. Seemed a bit
strange.


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Re: Google not permitting messages from our Group

 

What do you mean by "authenticate?" In my experience, dragging the msg from spam to inbox suffices, for my own personal Gmail account, not limited to .

Is that what you mean by "authentication"?

-P.?

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 6:13 AM KATHLEEN DESMAISONS <radiantkd@...> wrote:
About the gmail refusal. If the owner of the gmail account authenticates it, it goes through.? We just tell our gmail people to be sure to authenticate?

ksthleen

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