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Craig . . .

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 16:53:21 -0700, "Bruce Bowman" <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

The best way to address this situation is to not let it happen in the first place. If you do gain ownership, the first thing you should do is name a co-Owner.

In any case, yes, do get a co-owner or two appointed as soon as you remedy this
situation.

If Mark doesn't work to appoint someone as a new group owner, what you can do as
an alternative depends on if anyone has moderator privileges to view the
members' list with emails. This assumes Mark doesn't appoint a new owner.

If someone has access to the members' list, start a new group, set up two or
more owners, then send out invitations to all the members of the old group to
the new group, and also post an invitation and explanation in the old group
about the death of the owner and the situation the group is in, and that a new
group has been started.

If there's no one with access to the members' list, then create the new group,
appoint two or more co-owners, and explain in the old group what happened and
include a link to the new group and a link so they can join by email if you
don't care if they have web access. Someone may have the entire message archive
and may be able to extract all members who participated in the past, and use
those email addresses to invite to the group. It won't, though, cover those who
never send a message to the group

If you upgrade the new group to premium for one month, you can direct add new
members with their email addresses, then revert back to basic.

The only other concern you may have is that the old group may have had all the
privileges of a legacy basic group and a newly formed group now won't have file
and photo privileges. We can't help you with that.

Donald


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/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP

I wouldn't want to change it twice a year either, but I wish it had a simpler and shorter list and that it included Daylight Saving time choices. I'm forced to pick a different time zone that has the right UTC and people are wondering why our calendar listings say something like Mexico Central time.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:29 PM, Craig McCulloch wrote:

Unfortunately our owner recently passed away and we did not have any backup owners, as far as I know.

First thing to do is send an email to [email protected]?and see if anybody responds.

I have searched through a good volume of support documents about GROUPS.IO but have not found any way to get a new owner. I will volunteer to take on this responsibility but need some help on how to do this.

See?/g/Group_Help/topic/89668736#3590?for instructions on how to gain access to the deceased Owner's account and set up a new Owner.

If that doesn't work (i.e.: you cannot gain access to his email address), you will likely need groups.io support to intercede. Send an email to [email protected]. If the group is a Premium, paid group (as it probably is, if you're sharing videos), Mark should eventually get back with you. Whether he will do what you ask him to do isn't clear, though. It's hard to know what the original Owner's intentions were...he may have wanted to the group to die with him.

The best way to address this situation is to not let it happen in the first place.?If you do gain ownership, the first thing you should do is name a co-Owner.?

Good luck,
Bruce

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On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:20 PM, Wakil David Matthews wrote:

The one in our group's calendar has tons of entries (many of which we would never use) but no choices for U.S. Daylight Saving time.

Hm.

I could have sworn that, once upon a time, the switch to DST happened automatically. But my events are now showing EST (UTC-5hr)...year-round.

Having said that, I'm not sure why it matters. Do you have recurring events that need to happen at 7PM in winter but 8PM during the summer?

Is there a way to create a more useful drop-down?

The time zone selection menu is not configurable. Even if it was, I wouldn't want to have to change it manually twice a year.
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Regards,
Bruce

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How is the drop-down list in the Calendar input populated? The one in our group's calendar has tons of entries (many of which we would never use) but no choices for U.S. Daylight Saving time. Is there a way to create a more useful drop-down?

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 10:45 AM, Ellen Bourne wrote:

Good morning could some one assist me What does NMM (New Member Moderator) mean and the number 1. They appear next to several of the members names.??

Ellen,
Nina who takes care of Groups.io help pages has added a searchable column for the badges.
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/additional-information/member-badges-and-topic-icons?single=true

?Both in Group Owners and Members.

Frances
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Barry,

Previous comments on participation are consistent with my experience. Cultivating widespread, meaningful participation is hard work. Fortunately, you seem to care about your group and that is an invaluable resource. Keep the faith.

Have you thought about sending a survey to your members?
Simply assessing who responds may be illuminating; and their answers may give you ideas about topics that may prompt further discussion. Don't assume all members share your precise interests and mindset.
Also, when sending a summary of survey responses to members consider it as another opportunity to foster discussion.?

Chris

Frances . . .

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 13:00:56 -0700, "Frances" <frances@...> wrote:

However I do want members to remember my groups!
I have an automated monthly reminder to members. It is a good idea to take a look at it from time to time and jazz it up a bit!

I send one out every month for all of my amateur radio related groups (about 20
of them). I "advertise" my other groups in the monthly reminder, and I find it
brings in new members every month to most of the groups I run. It also seems to
remind some who no longer want to be members and I see a few leave some of the
groups.

The number of new members overall far exceeds those leaving, and I have no
problem with losing members when it's because they're no longer interested in
the group.

Donald

This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 04:03 PM, Chris Cancilla (W4CEC) wrote:

Is this used for the sender, or the receiver?

You want the message to go to the group, right?

As I told you earlier:? "...have the batch file post the message to the integration address."

If your GMail account is subscribed to the group then the message should arrive there, too.

Regards,
Bruce

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Hi everyone,

I agree that you can't expect a very high participation rate.

However I do want members to remember my groups!
I have an automated monthly reminder to members. It is a good idea to take a look at it from time to time and jazz it up a bit!
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/monthly-reminder-notice

Check out your homepage. Edit it, if needed. I am amazed at the number of groups who still ?use the default grey scale elephant banner photo! They haven't personalized it.

Also are you listed in list of publicly accessible groups? If appropriate, you can list it there, even groups with a private archive.
/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,0,0

Perhaps I am preaching to the choir here! If so, sorry.

Frances


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On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:30:12 -0000, Chris Cancilla (W4CEC) <Chriscancilla@...> wrote:

I have an old school batch file, yes, a DOC .bat file, that runs, processes a file (excel) and saves it to a folder.
for my own simplicity, I can add an additional command line to the batch file that sends it to me through email (gmail actually)
I created a groups.io for the purpose of communications with the group and I cannot get it to go through the groups.io site as an emai.

Does anyone have any ideas?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 03:33 PM, Chris Cancilla (W4CEC) wrote:

I have an old school batch file, yes, a DOC .bat file, that runs, processes a file (excel) and saves it to a folder.
for my own simplicity, I can add an additional command line to the batch file that sends it to me through email (gmail actually)
I created a groups.io for the purpose of communications with the group and I cannot get it to go through the groups.io site as an emai.

Normally, to subscribe (and post) to a group, the address used needs to be able to both send and receive messages.?If the address cannot receive a message from groups.io then it cannot be "confirmed."

Does anyone have any ideas?

Set up an Email Integration and have the batch file post the message to the integration address. This is what email integrations are for.

/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-integrations-with-outside-services/email-integrations?

Please note that you will need either a Premium group or one with legacy features in order to set up the integration.

Regards,
Bruce

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I have an old school batch file, yes, a DOC .bat file, that runs, processes a file (excel) and saves it to a folder.
for my own simplicity, I can add an additional command line to the batch file that sends it to me through email (gmail actually)
I created a groups.io for the purpose of communications with the group and I cannot get it to go through the groups.io site as an emai.
Does anyone have any ideas?

Chris . . .

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 06:00:38 -0700, "Chris Jones via groups.io"
<chrisjones12@...> wrote:

FWIW IMHO your "activity rate" of about 10% is not all that bad. I suspect that it is actually better than this groups's (i.e. GMF) with its approximately 3500 members.

10% membership participation is indeed a good number.

I have a group of 1300 that probably has 50 or so actively participating.
Another group of 2200 with no regular participation at all; sometimes a month
goes by with no messages posted to the group. That latter group services its
purpose though when someone asks a question, which is not often, and springs to
life for a few days with people helping the person who posted the question.

As you said, in any group, you can't assume that people set to no mail are not
participating. Just as people who receive email posts can't be assumed to be
participating. I'm not sure where some get the idea that nomail means the member
isn't participating and those receiving posts by email are participating, but
that isn't the case.

Some like to use the website interface to post new messages and read posts
online. Perhaps they want to keep their email inbox clean. They may have some
other reason for wanting no email.

There are some who might be set to nomail for now, and not be a regular
participant unless they need to ask for help in a post, at which time they may
interact with others while they try to get the help they need. They may even
switch to email while they get the help they need, then switch back to nomail.

I don't understand why a group owner wants to try to force people to participate
unless there's some serious reason to do so that has to do with the group's
purpose. In some cases it seems that the group owner who wants to force
participation when there's no overriding reason to do so has some control
issues. (I can understand there are some situations where group participation
might be necessary and mandatory but these would be the exception rather than
the rule for most groups.)

We need to accept that we will have many lurkers and fewer actively
participating. I'd like to see more participation in some of my groups but as
long as the group is there and members are willing to help when someone has a
problem others can help with, then the group serves a purpose.

Donald


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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP