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Re: Managing bouncers #membership

 

Except that to read messages on line they must have set up a password,
which involves email confirmation.

Dave

On 6 Feb 2018 at 12:18, Marv Waschke wrote:

* Blue Bouncers with No Email delivery may well be perfectly
content- they operate from the online site and don't care about email.
Bouncing is not desirable because we may not be able to contact them if
an issue arises, but they are receiving service.


Re: Managing bouncers #membership

 

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 12:58 pm, Marv Waschke wrote:
I understand the system will eventually automatically unsubscribe red bouncers.
As far as I know, the only people that get automatically unsubscribed are those that mark a message as spam.? A red-bounce won't get any emails until they clear the problem, but they shouldn't get unsubscribed.

Duane


Managing bouncers #membership

 

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We transferred to groups io from Y! recently and we have 50+ members in blue Bounce status. I¡¯ve read a number of posts here on managing bouncers and have come up with the following observations and plan. If I¡¯m wrong in my observations or anyone has ideas on improving on the plan, I¡¯d appreciate comments.

Observations:

¡¤???????? Blue Bouncers with No Email delivery may well be perfectly content¡ª they operate from the online site and don¡¯t care about email. Bouncing is not desirable because we may not be able to contact them if an issue arises, but they are receiving service.

¡¤???????? Blue Bouncers with digest or single email delivery are not receiving the service they signed up for, although they may still be reading online and not be aware that they should be receiving email.

¡¤???????? Red Bouncers of any stripe are unreachable, but they might still be reading online.

Plan:

¡¤???????? Blue Bouncers with digest or single email delivery have first priority for me.

o?? Send out a mass email by checking them on the membership list and using the send message activity to ask them to check their spam folders and their spam blacklist. If they still want to participate, but our group address on their spam whitelist by adding us to their address book or explicitly to their whitelist. If they are no longer interested in the group, invite them to unsubscribe. Note that this message may not make it through their spam filter, but it¡¯s easy so why not try?

o?? Post a message to the list that requests members who think they ought to be receiving emails to check spam as above. This may hit a few more bouncers. This may also help address blue bouncing no-emailers and red bouncers.

o?? Follow up by forcing a probe in a few days.

o?? Follow up in a few days by downloading the remaining blue bouncers list to a spreadsheet and doing a mailmerge. Send the mailmerge from a non-groups io address in hope that it will make it through the spam filters.

¡¤???????? Blue bouncer with no-email. Second priority.

o?? They are handled by posting a message to the list.

¡¤???????? Red bouncers

o?? Posting to the list might help.

Questions

¡¤???????? When, if ever, to start unsubscribing non-responsive bouncers? List hygiene says bouncers are an untidiness and inflate and confuse metrics, but there is still a chance that they are receiving service.

¡¤???????? I understand the system will eventually automatically unsubscribe red bouncers. If we have reason to believe a member is receiving service and is still reading the site, can this be prevented?

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Thank you. I appreciate your experience and knowledge if you comment.

Best, Marv Waschke, Technical moderator, [email protected]


Re: Spoofing Message

 

This was covered just yesterday, /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/10290973

Duane


Deleting Members from Subgroup

 

If a main group member is deleted, are they automatically (and reliably) deleted from a subgroup?

Sharon
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Question - are there any stationery/script groups at IO? - solving separator and text problem

 

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Dear forum members,

We¡¯re thinking of migrating our script and tag group to IO-groups.
I have set up the group already and my moderator and I are still the only members. I¡¯m sending try-out scripts to the group.
However, when I send a script, I get the separator and Groups.io links/text below across the top of it.
(see below)
io_groupsFooter_remove
Did any of you members that have stationery/script groups find a solution to this problem?
I would like us to be able to send and view our stationeries without the text across our creations.
It would be ok if it really shows up at the footer of our script. We have a snippet that we use at Yahoo to move their divider and text to the bottom of our script, but that does not work in IO.groups. I have sent several try-out scripts but it still shows up.
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I hope I phrased this request correctly as English is not my native tongue.
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Thank you so much in advance!
Karin de Jong
Owner of the Creative script and tag friends group
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Below you find the separator and text I am talking about:

Groups.io Links:

You receive all messages sent to this group.

View/Reply Online | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic

Change Your Subscription
Group Home
Contact Group Owner
Terms Of Service
Unsubscribe From This Group

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Re: Can't create a group, but e-mail says it doesn't exist

 

Barb,

So, I created a group with a certain name (same as on Yahoo), but now I am thinking I want that group to be a subgroup of another group.? Can I still use the name as the name of the subgroup?

The name of a subgroup has two components. One is the name in common with its primary group (the "subdomain" name), which was the primary group's name before it had any subgroups. See for example the beta group - it's primary is now "main", and "beta" is in common with its subgroups.

The "subdomain" or primary name must be unique system-wide, but the subgroup names only need to be unique with respect to each other.

If the existing group has no (important) content, and you want to simply start it over as a subgroup, that I think you can just do using the same name without first needing to rename or delete the existing group. Because that subgroup name will be "inside" the primary group name, in a way like one folder inside another.

If the existing group does have important content it would take an action by support to pick it up and make it a subgroup of another group. Same answer, no name conflict (and that would likely leave the original group name unreserved).

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I see where you said even if a group is deleted the name is reserved indefinitely - would that mean I can't switch it?? Let me know, thanks!

Delete reserves, rename does not. So if you want to delete a group and later re-use its name, rename it before you delete it.
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Shal


Spoofing Message

Jeremy Dummler
 

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Hello,
I have a member of a group who is receiving a message back when he posts an email that indicates his email address may be being spoofed. ?Is there a way to shut this off?

Thank you,
Jeremy Dummler


Re: Question About Transferring a Large Yahoo Groups List #transfer

 

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What about Pinterest?? That seems very photobased and it's free (I think).? If you're concerned about privacy, they have something called "secret boards" which sounds like you can control who sees it.? Just an idea.

Barb


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On 2018-02-06 01:03 PM, Patty Sliney via Groups.Io wrote:

Barb, that is a very good question.? I don't know, but I suspect folks do peruse through them, because we're a crafting group, so photos are kind of key in getting inspiration for your own sewing, quilting, machine embroidery projects.? So, thinking that maybe we could create a Flicker account for the old photos.? Just have to see if that is also free, based on the huge number of photos we have.? That might be a rather daunting task, though - moving ALL those photos to a Flicker page.? Have to look into that this weekend when I have some time.?
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Patty Sliney



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Re: Question About Transferring a Large Yahoo Groups List #transfer

 

Thanks, Shal, good to know Flicker may be an option, as well as PG Offline.? Or, Adobe Lightroom.? Lots to think about!


Patty Sliney



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Re: Group members profiles

 

Maggie, I see you haven't had an answer yet. Perhaps more detail will help.

Can you try it again, writing down the steps you are taking and then tell us.
And what page do you land up in? Can you send a screenshot??
For example, maybe you are clicking on Sign Up instead of Log In.

It just sounds very mysterious!

Cheers,
Frances


Re: Can't create a group, but e-mail says it doesn't exist

 

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So, I created a group with a certain name (same as on Yahoo), but now I am thinking I want that group to be a subgroup of another group.? Can I still use the name as the name of the subgroup?? I see where you said even if a group is deleted the name is reserved indefinitely - would that mean I can't switch it?? Let me know, thanks!

Barb B

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On 2018-02-06 12:31 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

wunder,

We?can't?create?the?group,?but?when?I?send?mail?to?[it],?I?get?this
response:

510?The?group?'nasota'?does?not?exist.

That suggests to me that someone already created a group by that name, then deleted it.

The name of a deleted group remains reserved indefinitely. You could write to [email protected] to see if Mark will unlock the name for you.

Shal




Re: Can't create a group, but e-mail says it doesn't exist

 

Good guess. The North American Summits on the Air group, ¡°nasota¡± at Yahoo! (), is the one we are considering moving to . is an informational site for the same thing.
On Feb 6, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Dave Sergeant <dave@...> wrote:

Finger in the air, is it taken (but not approved) by


Dave

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/??(my?blog)
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Re: Groups.io Digests and Thunderbird

 

Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:

? I use Thunderbird for my email client.? When I get a
groups.io digest and do a Reply (or New Topic) it
creates a new window and I compose my reply and
send it and it works just fine.
? However ... it also spawns an unused new window
that I have to click on to close it.? I am using the
very latest Tbird and keep it up to date.
I used to get this; it's caused by a bug in Thunderbird.

First cure, close the windows with ALT-F4. Second, open the task manager,
you will probably see several instances. Delete one of them.

One of these should work (I can't now remember what I did, sorry).

Or see .

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Re: Can't create a group, but e-mail says it doesn't exist

 

Ken,

If you create a group, and then ... You rename the group, Is the
original group name reserved indefinitely as well?
No, I'm pretty sure it isn't reserved at all after a rename.

Or can you rename your group back to the original name at a later
date?
Yes, assuming no one else has taken the name by then.

Shal


Re: Question About Transferring a Large Yahoo Groups List #transfer

 

Patty,

So, thinking that maybe we could create a Flicker account for the old
photos. Just have to see if that is also free, based on the huge
number of photos we have.
Yes, 1 TB of free storage, 10x the Yahoo Group limit.


That might be a rather daunting task, though - moving ALL those photos
to a Flicker page.
Also yes!

However, if you get them organized into folders on your computer (via PG Offline, for example) Flickr does have bulk uploaders that can take a folder of photos at a time.

You can also bulk upload them by way of Adobe Lightroom, but then you might be tempted to take on the even more daunting task of examining and perhaps adjusting them.

Shal


Re: Can't create a group, but e-mail says it doesn't exist

 

Shal,
If you create a group, and then due to complaints about similarity to a group on facebook, google, or YG
You rename the group, Is the original group name reserved indefinitely as well?
Or can you rename your group back to the original name at a later date?

I created a group.io list (3G) as a place for a popular YG list (3G) to relocate. The (3G) list owner has decided to go down with the ship and let the (3G) list die with YG. I renamed my groups.io (3Gone) list to distance itself from the old YG (3G)list. Now it sounds like if the old YG (3G)list decides to save itself it can not create a new groups.io list with the (3G)name I had originally used.

KEN

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in
men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling
are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest,
sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are
the traits of success." STEINBECK - CANNERY ROW

On 2018-02-06 09:31, Shal Farley wrote:
wunder,

We can¡¯t create the group, but when I send mail to [it], I get this
response:
510 The group 'nasota' does not exist.
That suggests to me that someone already created a group by that name,
then deleted it.
The name of a deleted group remains reserved indefinitely. You could
write to [email protected] to see if Mark will unlock the name for
you.
Shal


Re: Question About Transferring a Large Yahoo Groups List #transfer

 

Barb, that is a very good question.? I don't know, but I suspect folks do peruse through them, because we're a crafting group, so photos are kind of key in getting inspiration for your own sewing, quilting, machine embroidery projects.? So, thinking that maybe we could create a Flicker account for the old photos.? Just have to see if that is also free, based on the huge number of photos we have.? That might be a rather daunting task, though - moving ALL those photos to a Flicker page.? Have to look into that this weekend when I have some time.?


Patty Sliney



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Re: Can't create a group, but e-mail says it doesn't exist

 

Finger in the air, is it taken (but not approved) by


Dave

On 6 Feb 2018 at 17:12, Dave Wade wrote:

Walter,

Perhaps its awaiting approval? I assume it says it already exists?

Dave


Re: Can't create a group, but e-mail says it doesn't exist

 

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Thanks, makes sense.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wunder@...
http://observer.wunderwood.org/??(my?blog)

On Feb 6, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

wunder,

> We can¡¯t create the group, but when I send mail to [it], I get this
> response:
>
> 510 The group 'nasota' does not exist.

That suggests to me that someone already created a group by that name, then deleted it.

The name of a deleted group remains reserved indefinitely. You could write to [email protected] to see if Mark will unlock the name for you.

Shal