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On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 05:37 AM, Sue Bernstein wrote:

IS IT POSSIBLE I'M RECEIVING THIS MESSAGE DUE TO THE NOW RESOLVED GOOGLE OUTAGE?

Yes.? Mark manually unbounced anyone with a gmail address after Google fixed the problem, but you may have gotten the bounce message anyway.?

Duane
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Im receiving this message from [email protected]

Recently, emails sent to you have bounced back to us. This can be for many reasons, including:

- We have an incorrect email address for you.
- Your account was or is full.
- Other temporary delivery issues.

To view the error messages we receive from your email server,?[click here].

We have suspended email delivery to you. This means you will no longer receive messages from the groups you are subscribed to, including [etc]

This applied to a handful of messages only and I AM receiving messages. QUESTION. Yesterday (15 December 2020) there was a massive
Google outage (I use gmail). IS IT POSSIBLE I'M RECEIVING THIS MESSAGE DUE TO THE NOW RESOLVED GOOGLE OUTAGE?? tia.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 04:54 AM, David M wrote:

What about all the messages that were missed while the account was in bouncing state? Ie, messages sent out on the groups.io mailing list? Is there any way to get them resent?

No, you'd have to go online to see what you missed.

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Sarah,

Is there some way I can unbounce everyone?

You should no longer need to.

Gmail reports it has fixed its problem, and Mark went through and unbounced all the Gmail addresses.

What about all the messages that were missed while the account was in bouncing state? Ie, messages sent out on the groups.io mailing list? Is there any way to get them resent?

But if you're a moderator, you may want to see all posts in case some
are worthy of removal or taking other actions against the member
posting. If you're a mod and unfollow a topic, you lost that ability
to monitor posts by email at least.

Donald

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 19:41:23 -0800, "Frances" <frances@...>
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Yes, you can unfollow.
Here's a quick way - with screenshots:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/14370

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David,

Odd that this happened just as yahoo was pulling the plug on all its
groups. Anyone see any possible connection?

No.

In particular, yesterday's general Google failure and the later Gmail failure both happened before Yahoo made any changes.

So, unfortunate coincidence but nothing more.

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Janet,

But I am getting mail from other people/entities that is not being
bounced by Gmail.

The problem with that statement is "how would one know if one didn't receive a non-group message?".

Most senders don't have a bounce history mechanism to inform you. If my bank, my daughter's university, a coworker, or anyone else attempted to send me a message yesterday afternoon or today at a Gmail address, I would not know of their failed attempt - unless that sender made an extra effort to contact me.

Groups.io makes the extra effort. Most senders would not.

It seems to only be Groups mail and the only [group] that seems to be
active to seem to cause this seems to be GMF.

GMF isn't the most active group out there, but it may be one of the most active, especially when there is something "afoot".

But as you've been told a few times now, it doesn't matter which group sent you the triggering message - when your address is set to Bouncing status that affects _all_ of your group subscriptions.

What is the setting on GMF for me please - Is it correct?

Check your Subscription page for GMF:
/g/GroupManagersForum/editsub

Your settings are the usual default, "Individual Messages" and "All Messages", but correct is whatever you want it to be.

There are no Subscription or Group settings which could cause Gmail to reject messages sent to you - that's on them.

Shal


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Odd that this happened just as yahoo was pulling the plug on all its groups. Anyone see any possible connection?

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Thanks for that, Shal.

Something’s gone badly wrong with them. Fingers crossed that they can fix themselves soon.

Hope this is not symptomatic - tip of the iceberg - of major system weakness.

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David,

I got the same notice but more than 24 hours after the Google outage.

In addition to the general outage early yesterday morning, there were at least two more Gmail-specific outages, one yesterday afternoon and one today.


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Stephanie,

If I click the link at the bottom of an email and follow a topic, is
there a way to unfollow?

What Frances said.

Also, the next message you receive in the followed topic will have an unfollow link instead.

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David,

Susan Rubin raised a good point. How can we send out notices to
those with gmail addresses if they are not aware?

As long as the outage lasts, that's a problem. Generally, unless you have some other means of contact with the person, you simply have to wait-out the outage.

Or, if the outage is sporadic, keep trying until a message gets through.

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Maybe change your email address to a different email provider.

On Dec 15, 2020, at 6:04 PM, The Review Crew <cozymysteryreviewcrew@...> wrote:

I have been bouncing (and re-setting each time) constantly all day. Non-GroupsIO messages are coming through with no issue. I can't even approve messages in the group...I'll approve one, then my account is set back to bouncing, and I have to re-set it again before I can approve the next one.

Any ideas? I'm not a member/owner of that many groups, and only this one gets any significant traffic.

Thanks!
Kim S.

[Mod note: no longer necessary, Gmail seems to be working now. Excess quote trimmed by moderator.]

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:04 PM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:

If I click the link at the bottom of an email and follow a topic, is there a way to unfollow?

Yes, you can unfollow.
Here's a quick way - with screenshots:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/14370

There are updated ways - see the Help for members -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-the-volume-of-email-messages-you/following-or-unfollowing-topics-and-hashtags?single=true
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See especially the section on managing muted and followed topics.

Frances

The group really doesn't matter. What does matter is the email traffic
between GIO and your mail server. I suspect for some of the codes it doesn't
even matter who's mail it was, it triggers a block for that whole
destination mail server. It then sets accounts as bouncing because that's
their mail server. Some codes between the email servers are not forgiving,
as Shal said it may only take one message to somebody to get that code to
trip. Other codes might take 3 or 5 and it also depends how frequently it
happens. I've watch my log and see a number of bounce instances, but spread
across a day, I didn't get my account bounced. But get a couple of those
same messages within a few minutes or hours of each other, it trips the
bounce of my account.

Then again, we only can see what the results are, we don't know for sure how
the program is processing all the different types of bounce messages between
the servers.

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I suppose the problem could be that somebody’s cache hadn’t been updated.

Google really has become a public utility. Its servers simply must not fail.

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It’s not. A half hour ago my wife sent my gmail account a message and saw it bounce - google didn’t know me.

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On 12/15/2020 19:02, Janet Crawford wrote:

But I am getting mail from other people/entities that is not being bounced by Gmail. It seems to only be Groups mail and the only account that seems to be active to seem to cause this seems to be GMF. What is the setting on GMF for me? please - Is it correct?

Janet

But I am getting the reverse. I get groups mail fine and bounces from individuals.

The likely truth is that Google is experience intermittent problems over a range of subsystems and different people are going to experience different failures at different times.

It really has nothing to do with GIO.

Best,

Glenn