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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

David Smith
 

Thanks for that, Shal.

Something¡¯s gone badly wrong with them. Fingers crossed that they can fix themselves soon.

Hope this is not symptomatic - tip of the iceberg - of major system weakness.

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On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

?David,

I got the same notice but more than 24 hours after the Google outage.
In addition to the general outage early yesterday morning, there were at least two more Gmail-specific outages, one yesterday afternoon and one today.


Shal


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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

David,

I got the same notice but more than 24 hours after the Google outage.
In addition to the general outage early yesterday morning, there were at least two more Gmail-specific outages, one yesterday afternoon and one today.


Shal


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Re: Unfollow?

 

Stephanie,

If I click the link at the bottom of an email and follow a topic, is
there a way to unfollow?
What Frances said.

Also, the next message you receive in the followed topic will have an unfollow link instead.

Shal


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Re: BOUNCING

 

David,

Susan Rubin raised a good point. How can we send out notices to
those with gmail addresses if they are not aware?
As long as the outage lasts, that's a problem. Generally, unless you have some other means of contact with the person, you simply have to wait-out the outage.

Or, if the outage is sporadic, keep trying until a message gets through.

Shal


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Re: bouncing around

 

Maybe change your email address to a different email provider.

On Dec 15, 2020, at 6:04 PM, The Review Crew <cozymysteryreviewcrew@...> wrote:

I have been bouncing (and re-setting each time) constantly all day. Non-GroupsIO messages are coming through with no issue. I can't even approve messages in the group...I'll approve one, then my account is set back to bouncing, and I have to re-set it again before I can approve the next one.

Any ideas? I'm not a member/owner of that many groups, and only this one gets any significant traffic.

Thanks!
Kim S.
[Mod note: no longer necessary, Gmail seems to be working now. Excess quote trimmed by moderator.]
Re: Unfollow?

 

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:04 PM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:
If I click the link at the bottom of an email and follow a topic, is there a way to unfollow?
Yes, you can unfollow.
Here's a quick way - with screenshots:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/14370

There are updated ways - see the Help for members -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-the-volume-of-email-messages-you/following-or-unfollowing-topics-and-hashtags?single=true
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See especially the section on managing muted and followed topics.

Frances

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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

The group really doesn't matter. What does matter is the email traffic
between GIO and your mail server. I suspect for some of the codes it doesn't
even matter who's mail it was, it triggers a block for that whole
destination mail server. It then sets accounts as bouncing because that's
their mail server. Some codes between the email servers are not forgiving,
as Shal said it may only take one message to somebody to get that code to
trip. Other codes might take 3 or 5 and it also depends how frequently it
happens. I've watch my log and see a number of bounce instances, but spread
across a day, I didn't get my account bounced. But get a couple of those
same messages within a few minutes or hours of each other, it trips the
bounce of my account.

Then again, we only can see what the results are, we don't know for sure how
the program is processing all the different types of bounce messages between
the servers.

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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

David Smith
 

I suppose the problem could be that somebody¡¯s cache hadn¡¯t been updated.

Google really has become a public utility. Its servers simply must not fail.

¡ª

On Dec 15, 2020, at 10:13 PM, David Smith <dvdcsmth@...> wrote:

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It¡¯s not. A half hour ago my wife sent my gmail account a message and saw it bounce - google didn¡¯t know me.

¡ª

On Dec 15, 2020, at 9:47 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@...> wrote:

I am not sure Google is clear yet either.

Janet
Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

David Smith
 

It¡¯s not. A half hour ago my wife sent my gmail account a message and saw it bounce - google didn¡¯t know me.

¡ª

On Dec 15, 2020, at 9:47 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@...> wrote:

I am not sure Google is clear yet either.

Janet
Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

Glenn Glazer
 

On 12/15/2020 19:02, Janet Crawford wrote:
But I am getting mail from other people/entities that is not being bounced by Gmail. It seems to only be Groups mail and the only account that seems to be active to seem to cause this seems to be GMF. What is the setting on GMF for me? please - Is it correct?

Janet
But I am getting the reverse. I get groups mail fine and bounces from individuals.

The likely truth is that Google is experience intermittent problems over a range of subsystems and different people are going to experience different failures at different times.

It really has nothing to do with GIO.

Best,

Glenn
Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

For me, it seems to be my emails to any of my groups that weren't going through, not incoming messages to me.
Jenny?

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 7:04 PM Janet Crawford <reojan@...> wrote:
But I am getting mail from other people/entities that is not being bounced by Gmail. It seems to only be Groups mail and the only account that seems to be active to seem to cause this seems to be GMF. What is the setting on GMF for me? please - Is it correct?

Janet

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:50 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:47 PM, Janet Crawford wrote:
Yes, but my Groups don't match anyone else's whose groups are also bouncing.
Groups do not bounce. Accounts do.

As I said the only one we all seem to have in common is GMF.
You have GMail in common. Only people using GMail have been experiencing this problem; and only some of them.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

But I am getting mail from other people/entities that is not being bounced by Gmail. It seems to only be Groups mail and the only account that seems to be active to seem to cause this seems to be GMF. What is the setting on GMF for me? please - Is it correct?

Janet

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:50 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:47 PM, Janet Crawford wrote:
Yes, but my Groups don't match anyone else's whose groups are also bouncing.
Groups do not bounce. Accounts do.

As I said the only one we all seem to have in common is GMF.
You have GMail in common. Only people using GMail have been experiencing this problem; and only some of them.

Regards,
Bruce?
Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual

Unfollow?

 

If I click the link at the bottom of an email and follow a topic, is there a way to unfollow?
Re: BOUNCING

 

Susan Rubin raised a good point.? ?How can we send out notices to those with gmail addresses if they are not aware?

David Samuelsen

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM Jenny E <52bkwalker@...> wrote:

I've received 3 or 4 today, I go to the site and 'unbounce' each time.
I heard it was a Google/gmail issue, and I use my gmail account for all my gio messages,
set to individual emails for all my groups.
Jenny


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 6:31 PM Susan R <pound2penthouse@...> wrote:
I got two bounce messages. I got one in a.m
I fixed it. Then got another at 6 pm

Susan

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:17 PM Sarah Morse <morsekathan@...> wrote:
I got a bounce message today too as did many of the members of my list.? It's a problem because most of my list members haven't a clue what to do.? I'm getting a lot of panicking emails.? Is there some way I can unbounce everyone?

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Re: BOUNCING

 


I've received 3 or 4 today, I go to the site and 'unbounce' each time.
I heard it was a Google/gmail issue, and I use my gmail account for all my gio messages,
set to individual emails for all my groups.
Jenny


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 6:31 PM Susan R <pound2penthouse@...> wrote:
I got two bounce messages. I got one in a.m
I fixed it. Then got another at 6 pm

Susan

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:17 PM Sarah Morse <morsekathan@...> wrote:
I got a bounce message today too as did many of the members of my list.? It's a problem because most of my list members haven't a clue what to do.? I'm getting a lot of panicking emails.? Is there some way I can unbounce everyone?

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Producer
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:47 PM, Janet Crawford wrote:
Yes, but my Groups don't match anyone else's whose groups are also bouncing.
Groups do not bounce. Accounts do.

As I said the only one we all seem to have in common is GMF.
You have GMail in common. Only people using GMail have been experiencing this problem; and only some of them.

Regards,
Bruce?
Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual
Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

Bruce,

I got the same notice but more than 24 hours after the Google outage.

David Samuelsen

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:40 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:34 PM, Janet Crawford wrote:
Under "delivery" it says Individual.
High-traffic groups (like GMF) are more likely to "cause" a bounce, for no other reason than they send more messages, so there's more opportunity for bounces to happen.?

Other than that, it doesn't matter what email delivery you have set, how much traffic each group gets, or which group actually triggered the bounce...all the groups you are subscribed to will be listed in the resulting bounce notification.?

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

Yes, but my Groups don't match anyone else's whose groups are also bouncing. As I said the only one we all seem to have in common is GMF.
I am not sure Google is clear yet either.

Janet

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:40 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:34 PM, Janet Crawford wrote:
Under "delivery" it says Individual.
High-traffic groups (like GMF) are more likely to "cause" a bounce, for no other reason than they send more messages, so there's more opportunity for bounces to happen.?

Other than that, it doesn't matter what email delivery you have set, how much traffic each group gets, or which group actually triggered the bounce...all the groups you are subscribed to will be listed in the resulting bounce notification.?

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:34 PM, Janet Crawford wrote:
Under "delivery" it says Individual.
High-traffic groups (like GMF) are more likely to "cause" a bounce, for no other reason than they send more messages, so there's more opportunity for bounces to happen.?

Other than that, it doesn't matter what email delivery you have set, how much traffic each group gets, or which group actually triggered the bounce...all the groups you are subscribed to will be listed in the resulting bounce notification.?

Regards,
Bruce
Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual
Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

Under "delivery" it says Individual.

Janet

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 2:22 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:17 PM, Janet Crawford wrote:
I am administrator for all these except 3 where I am just a subscriber.?
Janet -- Not sure what you mean by "administrator," but this suggests to me that you really are subscribed to all of them, but have email delivery turned off. Log in, and go to /groups?as I mentioned earlier. If these same groups are all listed there, there was no error in the bounce message you forwarded.

Regards,
Bruce
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