Re: Seems Gmail is tripping now, or recently.
Not much of a storm. Few didn't get theirs and re-submit and got through.
David Samuelsen
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 7:42 PM Shal Farley < shals2nd@...> wrote: Ken,
I'm wondering if there is going to be a bounce storm once Yahoo pulls the
plug on groups?
I wouldn't think so. With Yahoo not sending out any group messages the number of member posts that bounce on the way in should tail off rather quickly.
Granted I think the number of messages in flight today for
Yahoo is much lower than the past but at some point messages will be in
transit from somewhere that doesn't exist ...
Those will be delivered normally, I think. I doubt Yahoo would break any SMTP transactions in process, but even if they did all it means is that the message "in transit" won't be received. As if never sent.
or messages in transit to somewhere that ceased to exist.
Those will bounce back to sender. But in Yahoo Groups' case (as here) all the senders should be humans attempting to post messages. The rate that has been happening of late seems rather low, and while the people sending might do a few "try again" just to be sure, I think they'll quickly figure out that it doesn't work.
Shal
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Re: Seems Spectrum/Charter is tripping again
Same here, just got up (UK), surprised to see that I didn¡®t get any io group mail since more or less my midnight and found out that I was bouncing with my gmail account.
Barbara
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How do I add a footer to a group?? I don't remember where it is.? Thanks.
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Re: Seems Gmail is tripping now, or recently.
Ken,
I'm wondering if there is going to be a bounce storm once Yahoo pulls the
plug on groups?
I wouldn't think so. With Yahoo not sending out any group messages the number of member posts that bounce on the way in should tail off rather quickly.
Granted I think the number of messages in flight today for
Yahoo is much lower than the past but at some point messages will be in
transit from somewhere that doesn't exist ...
Those will be delivered normally, I think. I doubt Yahoo would break any SMTP transactions in process, but even if they did all it means is that the message "in transit" won't be received. As if never sent.
or messages in transit to somewhere that ceased to exist.
Those will bounce back to sender. But in Yahoo Groups' case (as here) all the senders should be humans attempting to post messages. The rate that has been happening of late seems rather low, and while the people sending might do a few "try again" just to be sure, I think they'll quickly figure out that it doesn't work. Shal ? -- Help: /helpcenterMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: Seems Gmail is tripping now, or recently.
I'm wondering if there is going to be a bounce storm once Yahoo pulls the
plug on groups? Granted I think the number of messages in flight today for
Yahoo is much lower than the past but at some point messages will be in
transit from somewhere that doesn't exist or messages in transit to
somewhere that ceased to exist.
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Re: Seems Gmail is tripping now, or recently.
Most of Google crashed for about an hour, including GMail and GDrive and YouTube, and etc.
That was long before I got up this morning whereas my first bounce today was at 3:18 pm. That's not to say it isn't related, but it is clearly a new event.
And according to started this afternoon and is affecting many email services, not just Groups.io.
Shal
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Re: Seems Spectrum/Charter is tripping again
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 08:02 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
My Gmail account also. Lost messages 35556 to 35558 because at 3:18pm PST message 35556 bounced for the Reason "550 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not?
Most of Google crashed for about an hour, including GMail and GDrive and YouTube, and etc. ?Bruce
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Re: Seems Spectrum/Charter is tripping again
My Gmail account also . Lost messages 35556 to 35558 because at 3:18pm PST message 35556 bounced for the Reason "550 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist."
I don't know if that's a consequence of this morning's general outage at Google, but the bounce was clearly erroneous.
Shal
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Re: Seems Spectrum/Charter is tripping again
I just got one on gmail for my own account, this one.
Best,
Glenn
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On Mon, 12/14 16:24, Donald Hellen wrote: Now Roadrunner was affected, at least earlier today. I got two
bouncing messages from GIO.
I reset myself.
Donald
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:03:08 -0500, "Ken Cameron"
<kcameron@...> wrote:
Either they have lowered their threshold for what is too many connections or
GIO has raised their connections. I just got bounced out for:
1300
Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well
as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the
reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of connections and try
again later.
Should this be a bug report, beta list, or what?
Looking at the long on GIO, the mail message hits once or twice a day, but
getting 5 in a day (today) tripped the bounce limit.
Here is the top of my "Recent Bounces"
When
Message
Reason
13:26
#35531 [GMF] subscription setting
pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please
see
for more information. AUP#In-1300
13:25
#183685 [jmriusers] B&O 1957 Signals
pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please
see
for more information. AUP#In-1300
13:23
#183684 [jmriusers] Running Transits train will not go through block 10
pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please
see
for more information. AUP#In-1300
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
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Re: Seems Spectrum/Charter is tripping again
Now Roadrunner was affected, at least earlier today. I got two bouncing messages from GIO. I reset myself. Donald On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:03:08 -0500, "Ken Cameron" <kcameron@...> wrote: Either they have lowered their threshold for what is too many connections or
GIO has raised their connections. I just got bounced out for:
1300
Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well
as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the
reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of connections and try
again later.
Should this be a bug report, beta list, or what?
Looking at the long on GIO, the mail message hits once or twice a day, but
getting 5 in a day (today) tripped the bounce limit.
Here is the top of my "Recent Bounces"
When
Message
Reason
13:26
#35531 [GMF] subscription setting
pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please
see
for more information. AUP#In-1300
13:25
#183685 [jmriusers] B&O 1957 Signals
pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please
see
for more information. AUP#In-1300
13:23
#183684 [jmriusers] Running Transits train will not go through block 10
pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please
see
for more information. AUP#In-1300
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Re: Help with emails sent not showing up I am the moderator of the group
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 02:10 PM, Sara Schwarzbaum wrote:
That's exactly why I am asking. They are NOT appearing on the Activity logs. Do you understand why?
I have checked with some recipients, and they are telling me they get them, so I know they went out. But I can't?find them.?
Do you have your group set to "Reply to Sender" (see the pull-down menu under Message Policies)? Or perhaps you're selecting the "Private" button when you compose a reply? Such messages go directly to the person you're replying to. They do not pass through the group and will not appear in the activity log. Hope this helps, Bruce
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Re: Changes made after some members have joined
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:08 AM, Randy Kramer wrote:
My questions:
* Do all the members have that same restriction even though not all show
the "A"?
Yes, the restriction of No Attachments applies to everyone.
* Not as important (I guess), but if all members do have the same
restriction, it would be nice that they all showed the same thing in the
Delivery column -- that is, either all with "A"s (preferred) or none with
"A"s.
The A shows up when a member sets a size limit on restrictions.? If you changed the Default Subscription Setting for that, it would show up for new members.
* Finally, if this kind of thing (indicators showing up for members that
joined after a change but not for older members), what is the general way to
handle the question listed above?
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Re: Help with emails sent not showing up I am the moderator of the group
That's exactly why I am asking. They are NOT appearing on the Activity logs. Do you understand why?
Assuming you mean the Activity page for the group, and not any individual member's Activity History, then the only reason I know of is that the message wasn't sent to the group's posting address. If it was, then it should be listed there.
I have checked with some recipients, and they are telling me they get them, so I know they went out. But I can't?find them.?
If they went out via your group then they would be in the group's Messages list.
Is it possible you're confounding two separate groups?
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Re: Help with emails sent not showing up I am the moderator of the group
"Try looking at the group's Activity log. That should tell you what happened to messages: whether they were accepted or rejected, and if rejected why.
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Shal"
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That's exactly why I am asking. They are NOT appearing on the Activity logs. Do you understand why?
I have checked with some recipients, and they are telling me they get them, so I know they went out. But I can't?find them.?
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Re: Help with emails sent not showing up I am the moderator of the group
Question: When I get ready to send an email, I have two options for the ¡°from¡± email address: My regular email address and my address as the moderator of the group.
I don't know what you mean by this, but you can only post from an address that is subscribed to the group. Unless the group is set to allow non-subscriber posts.
?Do I need to send emails to the group from my ¡°regular¡± Gmail only?
Probably, depending on what you meant by "my address as the moderator of the group", see also Frances' question about it.
Is there anything I need to do to track the emails I sent? The emails I send to the group do not appear on my activity list.
? Try looking at the group's Activity log. That should tell you what happened to messages: whether they were accepted or rejected, and if rejected why.
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Re: Help with emails sent not showing up I am the moderator of the group
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Changes made after some members have joined
I did a little googling to find an answer to my question(s), but I have not
(yet) read the various manuals available for groups.io (that is on my todo
list). I'm hoping that my question might be simple enough for someone to give
me an answer fairly easily.
Background: I started (my first) groups.io maillist a few days ago. I opened
it up for people to join, and several did. Over the following day or so, I
explored various options and set some of those, including the one that
prevents attachments to posts.
More people joined after that. Now on the list of members, members that
joined after I made that change have an "A" in the Delivery column which
indicates "Attachment Size Limited". The people that joined before I made
that change do not have that "A".
I want all the members to have the same restriction, both those that joined
before and after I made the change.
My questions:
* Do all the members have that same restriction even though not all show
the "A"?
* If not, how do I make that change effective for members that joined before
I made the change?
* Not as important (I guess), but if all members do have the same
restriction, it would be nice that they all showed the same thing in the
Delivery column -- that is, either all with "A"s (preferred) or none with
"A"s.
* Finally, if this kind of thing (indicators showing up for members that
joined after a change but not for older members), what is the general way to
handle the question listed above?
Thank you!
Randy Kramer
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Help with emails sent not showing up I am the moderator of the group
Is there anything I need to do to track the emails I sent? The emails I send to the group do not appear on my activity list.
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Question: When I get ready to send an email, I have two options for the ¡°from¡± email address: My regular email address and my address as the moderator of the group.
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All the emails from my ¡°regular¡¯ Gmail address are there, but none the emails from the other (this is my groups io email name as a moderator of the group) ?are .
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Do I need to send emails to the group from my ¡°regular¡± Gmail only?
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I perused the settings and can¡¯t see anything there that is helpful.
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Re: User unable to delete account
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:38 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
If an account is the sole Owner of a group, you cannot delete it.
It wasn't. She didn't have any groups of her own? - and she didn't get the appropriate message stating that she was.?
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