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Owl's been off the grid lately
Hey all,
Just wanted to let you know I've been dealing with a lot of real life stuff, so not only am I way behind in here, but also in Beta. So I haven't had a chance to work on putting any documentation together for the Beta Manual concept. I apologize, this is just how my life seems to go these days. I don't mean to promise things I can't do, I really intend to get them done...so I'll see if things calm down and I can still work on it soon. Thanks in advance for understanding. Brenda |
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Re: Easy instructions for new mdmbers to create passwords?
Hi I wrote these instructions - they could be edited. Accessing our group鈥檚 site, archive and files: You know you can email to the group, but you can also go to the website to post, search, read any or all email (posts). 鈥� You will need to log in. First, you must set up your password on Groups.io if you haven鈥檛 done so yet. - Go to the group homepage e.g.听/g/GroupManagersForum/ - Put in your email address and click on Email me a link to log in - Go to your email and click on the link in the email sent to your email account (might be in your Junk mail by mistake) - On the homepage of our group (with a photo ---- <edit this>), click on your name in the top right corner. - Click on Profile - Add a password for future use (and remember it!) - You鈥檙e all set. You only have to do this once. Frances |
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Re: Easy instructions for new mdmbers to create passwords?
J,
Once a member has joined and hasn't created a password right at theI would recommend that they go to any Groups.io page (its home page, or your group's home page) and click the Log In button/link at the top right. / On the "Please Log In" page click the "Forget your password?" link. Then provide their email address and click the "Email Link To Log In" button. They should watch their email (including Junk/Spam folders) for a log in email from Groups.io. Clicking through the link in that message will bring them to their Profile page where they can set a password. That link will also log them in to Groups.io for 30 days (or until they log out); so they may put off setting a password if they don't want to choose one now. They can repeat the above process anytime, so there's no hassle if they accidently log out or let it expire without having set a password. Or, They can forget about setting a password, and use the "Email me a link to log in" button whenever they need to Log In. Shal |
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Re: Send to Sender ( [beta] Proposal for hiding email addresses feature)
Vickie,
I decided to reply here in consideration of Mark's request in beta@ #6874 that we limit that thread to "how" without delving into what we will or won't use, or whether it's a good idea. /g/beta/message/6874 That's kind of a tough request to follow, especially when I introduced the question wondering which of three options would be best. Maybe we can hash it out here and bring a refined description back to beta@ In beta@ #6915 Vickie wrote: Looks like I won't be using the new feature A, B, or C settings./g/beta/message/6915 With the possible exception of replies by email, I think what you've described is exactly what I intended by option B. I wrote: B) Non-anonymous off-list support. Send to Sender reveals one's emailHere's an example of what I meant: John posts an item to the group. His message is posted in the group's messages section, and distributed to members by email according to their subscription settings (individual, digest, etc.). The only difference introduced by the Anonymous Posting option so far is that only John's name, not his email address, is revealed in his post; and that is true for other subscribers reading by email as well as for those reading by Groups.io's web site. Mary wants to contact John about the item. She goes to the web site and uses the Reply feature, clicking "Send to sender". In Mary's reply her email address is included normally (as the From and Reply-To address) in the message to John, and hence is revealed to John. John decides whether or not to reply to Mary. If he does, his email interface will include his address in his message to Mary in the normal way. After this point John and Mary are free to continue their off-list conversation as they please. Notably, if John chooses not to reply to Mary, neither she nor anyone else learns his email address. I think the additional thing that you want, which I didn't accomplish, was allowing Mary to contact John by way of her email interface. Instead my description forces her to the Groups.io site to do that. Call the above option B1, and what follows option B2. There is possibly a way to accomplish an off-list reply to an anonymous posting, and that's by taking a baby-step toward option C. Instead of a noreply address or other placeholder in group postings, Groups.io could insert something like what Mark proposed in the third bullet of his message #6797: John's posting could be from "[email protected]" (assuming John has set "John123" as his User Name in his profile). /g/beta/message/6797 But where Mark specified that any email to that address would be dropped, it could instead be forwarded to John's actual email address. That would allow Mary to reply via her email interface rather than the Groups.io site if she wishes. As before, her reply reveals her address to John, and Johns actual address is not revealed to Mary until and unless he decides to reply to Mary. Now B2 did require that John establish a User Name in his profile. That's probably a reasonable requirement, and it can be used as signifying his consent to have messages forwarded to him via this means (Just as in now signifies his consent to having people see his profile). Do either B1 or B2 make sense to you? Shal |
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Re: Chat groups - Reply option
You may be seeing long posts that aren't trimmed, such as /g/beta/message/6776 If you go to your group, select Messages on the left, then choose one of the View options from the drop down (Thread View is the default), you should be able to reply to individual posts. In your case, I think Expanded Message View might be the best choice. They would be shown in reverse chronological order (newest to oldest) by default. Once you hit the Reply button under the post that you're reading, you have the choice of Insert Quoted Text from that post. Once that's in there, you can select all that you don't want and hit the delete button on your computer, just like you would in an email program.
Is this what you're trying to accomplish? Duane |
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Re: member of two of my groups using different email addresses, can only get into one group
J,
I wrote: She could re-join one of the groups using the other email address, soI should also have said, keep the original email subscription in the group she re-joins. That would mean she has two subscriptions to that group, but that's ok, she can set one subscription to "No Mail" or "Special Notices" to avoid duplicate messages. By keeping the original subscription she retains the ability to control her contributions under that subscription (with no more than a logout / login effort), and also holds open the possibility that Mark's eventual solution will let her merge the ownership of the content under the two subscriptions. Leaving the group under the original subscription would (might?) forever abandon control of that's subscription's content. Not a risk that needs to be taken. Shal |
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Re: member of two of my groups using different email addresses, can only get into one group
J,
I think Mark has been dealing with the "multiple email address" issueOn Trello: Meanwhile, what can I do to help a member of both my main and my adminThis is a tough problem for the member. It basically means that she must log out of one email address and in with the other in order to access one group or the other. Or log in using a separate browser or device for each email address -- that would be one way to avoid repeated logout / login. Can she simply swap out her email address in one of the groups?Not yet, pending whatever Mark does to address the problem. She could re-join one of the groups using the other email address, so that email address ends up subscribed to both groups. But that really means re-joining it as a different person (from the group's point of view), and if the group has restricted membership she'd need to be approved under the second address. A disadvantage to rejoining is that any content (messages, photos, etc.) she's contributed under the one email address would not be controllable by the other (different subscriber, so no delete or edit buttons). But that could be a price worth paying, depending on how annoying the current situation is for her. Shal |
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Re: Copying from yahoogroups
Scott,
I抳e been using PGOffline to archive messages in various Yahoo groupsFortunately with Groups.io you don't need a third-party application to web-scrape the messages for you: there's a bulit-in download function. On the Settings page click on the "Download Archives" tab. That gives you a plain-text copy of the message archive, in mbox format. That's basically a View Source of all the messages, concatenated together. If you use your browser's Save As function to copy that to your computer you can then open it in Thunderbird or other applications that understand mbox format. Shal |
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