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Re: How do I change subgroup settings?

 

Tim,

I have inadvertently set the access to content on 3 of the 4 to
Public, whereas I only want members of the sub and main group to be
able to access it.
Subgroups have more Visibility choices than primary groups. You want to set the subgroups' to:
"Listed in parent group, archives viewable by parent group members"
(that means also visible to the subgroup members)

As Duane mentioned, when you take away Public visibility you cannot put it back. A warning dialog will remind you of this when you change them.

I've spent 30 minutes trying to find somewhere to change this setting,
but failed.
o Log in to your primary group.
o In the left column click Subgroups.
o For each listed subgroup, do the following
o Click on the subgroup name (brings you to the subgroup)
o In the left column click on Admin, then Settings
o Scroll down to the Privacy section
o Adjust the Visibility, as above

NOTE: that refers only to the subgroup's Messages pages. There are separate controls for each of its web features - scroll down to the Features section at the bottom of the Settings page. Those do not seem to have the option of visible to primary group members but not the public.

Shal
Re: How do I change subgroup settings?

 

You'll need to go to each subgroup, then the Settings menu under Admin. The Privacy section should allow you to change them. Just a reminder that once you make it Private, it can't be changed back to Public.

Duane
How do I change subgroup settings?

[email protected]
 

I've recently set up a group (a choir) with subgroups (voice parts) but I have inadvertently set the access to content on 3 of the 4 to Public, whereas I only want members of the sub and main group to be able to access it.

I've spent 30 minutes trying to find somewhere to change this setting, but failed.? I even thought of deleting the subgroups and starting again, but I can't do that either!

Please help.? Thanks.

Tim
Re: changing profile

Joseph Hudson
 

Good deal, I¡¯m glad you she was resolved. I was about to email you privately and see if I need to assist you in anyway I¡¯m glad that you and the owner were able to get it fixed.

Sent?from my iPhone

On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:

Hi all

At last the problem I had getting to my members have been resolved.

The owner figured out ho wto make me a mod? as I walked her through it over the phone

Now all is well.

Thank you Shal and those who helped me.

I appreciated

Sugar

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'Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts.:

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Bless you, Sugar Lopez

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changing profile

 

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Hi all

At last the problem I had getting to my members have been resolved.

The owner figured out ho wto make me a mod? as I walked her through it over the phone

Now all is well.

Thank you Shal and those who helped me.

I appreciated

Sugar

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'Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts.:

?

Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

?

Bless you, Sugar Lopez

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Re: Set everyone to full digest

 

Nancy,

How do I se it up so on transfer from Yahoo to io everyone¡¯s default
is ¡°full digest¡±?
The normal process copies the member's delivery setting as it was on the Yahoo Group. I don't know of any automatic way to override that, but you could contact [email protected] to see if they can do that for you.

If someone joins your Groups.io group directly (you add or invite them, or they subscribe by web or email) then their initial subscription will be set by the "Default Sub Settings" tab on your group's Settings page. But that does not apply to members transferred in.

Shal
Set everyone to full digest

Nancy in Renton
 

How do I se it up so on transfer from Yahoo to io everyone¡¯s default is ¡°full digest¡±?
Nancy
Re: Additional member attribute(s) #suggestion

 

John,

Seems like we have two different use cases. I'd like a field that I
can search on and email this subset of members. But your use case of
just 'additional information' on members, and let them fill in what
fields they wish.
Yes, yours is moderator's info for actions, mine was info for all members. Of course I'd still like to be able to search mine.

I'm a lot less certain about enabling members to take actions like emailing the subset found by search. That could be powerful but it could also be disruptive in some groups.

Your examples make me think - One implementation could be to create a
default database for each group created called 'members'. Tie it to
the member list, but we could add any fields we wanted to.
That's yet another good idea.

I think, rather than making it a default database, I'd have a new column type that ties to the email addresses in the Members list. Adding a column of that type to a table would enable the linked functionality (auto-populate a row for each member).

This also addresses the member/mod visibility question by making it the table creator's choice. We'd likely need to think about whether the address field should have its own visibility control for member/mods - as I suspect my case for allowing members to see each other's addresses is the rarer case.

If a member went away the entry in this database would go away.
That's one feature I would *not* like. And it has been one of the reasons I've not worked out a proposal in detail. I hate the idea that I'd lose information just because a member took the (all too common) approach of changing their email address by unsubscribe/resubscribe.

Premium groups have a "Past" members list which retains information about members who've left or been removed. I'd like a table like this to retain rows for "past" members, but marked somehow as such. However this may encroach on the Premium feature so I'm not sure Mark would go for it.

(Now I wonder if this is become implementation gone wild. :-)
Maybe. Once you start down the direction of creating relational tables it seems like things could get wild pretty quickly. But then the whole site is built on database queries, if I understand correctly, so it may not get as wild as I think (databases are not my specialty). Perhaps it would primarily be a question of user interface complexity, and that's what would most likely impact Mark's willingness to implement.

I'm up for anything in beta - depends if you want to try a simple use
case though (make notes searchable) or something more involved and
database-like
Go ahead and suggest what is right for your use cases. I'll chime in there or not, or maybe make my own suggestion if I feel inspired. Groups.io already has a lengthy to-do list, even in the Database column, but I think we have to trust to Mark's judgment about implementation priorities.


Shal
Re: WordPress blog integration with Groups.io group?

 

More usefully, IFTTT is ¡°if this, then that¡±, a workflow/sequencing service. Their website is not helpful in understanding it, but the Wikipedia page is a decent description.
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On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:41 AM, David P. Dillard <jwne@...> wrote:


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Re: Some questions

 

Thank you, Duane. That is very helpful.

Barb Jones


From: Duane <txpigeon@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Some questions

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:06 pm, Barbara Jones wrote:

>
> We wish to be very prepared for questions from our members when we launch
> CampOn. Here are things we are not sure of. Thank you for your answers.?
>
> > 1. If a person is already a member of CampOn and is a moderator or owner,
> > does their moderator status result in a duplicate entry in CampOn?

If that person is already a member on io, nothing is copied.? If they're not on io, all of their settings are copied.? There will be one entry per email address, which is how members are identified.? If they are a member here, but used a different email address, they will have another entry.

> > 2. Is the record of an owner transferred along with their membership from
> > Camp2 to CampOn?

I'm not sure about this, but it should be, unless they're already a member on io.

> > 3. Is a sub-domain free? If it has photos are they counted in our 1 GB
> > allotment? Do we just sign up for one as we signed up for Groups.io?

I think you mean a subgroup.? You can have as many on a free group as you want.? Storage is allocated per main group, so all the items that use it in subgroups will count against the total.? You create subgroups using the menu for administrators.

> > 4. Do hash tags take up memory?

Hashtags don't count against storage.

> > 5. In our yahoo group we approve photos, but we cannot find a place to
> > approve them in CampOn. Are we missing something?

This isn't currently an option.? It is on Mark's TODO list at some point.

> > 6. We are unfamiliar with wiki, although I just read a description of it.
> > My reaction is we do not need it. Any thoughts on that? Our members are
> > older, mostly, and some can barely handle email. Does wiki take up some of
> > our memory?

Only photos in the Wiki take storage space, text doesn't.

> > 7. Could you give us an estimate of how many photos would fit in 1 GB when
> > they are reduced to?about the 300x300?level? This is the only sticking
> > point I can see with our members, but we do plan to explain to them that
> > this is not a site for photo storage, just for photo sharing, and deletion
> > when we need more space. But an estimate would help.

After the option became available, I set my groups to resize photos (on the Settings page) to 312x312.? One group currently has 546 photos, taking up 25MB.? That means I should be able to have about 20,000 photos, if I only stored photos.? Since I also use files and other things that use storage, it will be somewhat less.

> > 8. Is there a way to delete photos by date they were put on Camp.on? As in
> > deleting oldest ones first? And do you offer that service, or do we delete
> > them ourselves?

You'd need to delete photos manually.? There's not currently a way to do bulk deletes (other than deleting an entire album), so it can be time consuming.? Bulk delete is also on the TODO list.? (BTW, this is a user-to-user group, not an official support group of io, so we can't do anything you can't.)

> > 9. Do hashtags take up some of our memory? I know that files and databases
> > do. We will not be allowing attachments.

See #4 above.

Duane
Re: WordPress blog integration with Groups.io group?

David P. Dillard
 
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Re: Some questions

 

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:06 pm, Barbara Jones wrote:


We wish to be very prepared for questions from our members when we launch
CampOn. Here are things we are not sure of. Thank you for your answers.?

1. If a person is already a member of CampOn and is a moderator or owner,
does their moderator status result in a duplicate entry in CampOn?
If that person is already a member on io, nothing is copied. If they're not on io, all of their settings are copied. There will be one entry per email address, which is how members are identified. If they are a member here, but used a different email address, they will have another entry.

2. Is the record of an owner transferred along with their membership from
Camp2 to CampOn?
I'm not sure about this, but it should be, unless they're already a member on io.

3. Is a sub-domain free? If it has photos are they counted in our 1 GB
allotment? Do we just sign up for one as we signed up for Groups.io?
I think you mean a subgroup. You can have as many on a free group as you want. Storage is allocated per main group, so all the items that use it in subgroups will count against the total. You create subgroups using the menu for administrators.

4. Do hash tags take up memory?
Hashtags don't count against storage.

5. In our yahoo group we approve photos, but we cannot find a place to
approve them in CampOn. Are we missing something?
This isn't currently an option. It is on Mark's TODO list at some point.

6. We are unfamiliar with wiki, although I just read a description of it.
My reaction is we do not need it. Any thoughts on that? Our members are
older, mostly, and some can barely handle email. Does wiki take up some of
our memory?
Only photos in the Wiki take storage space, text doesn't.

7. Could you give us an estimate of how many photos would fit in 1 GB when
they are reduced to?about the 300x300?level? This is the only sticking
point I can see with our members, but we do plan to explain to them that
this is not a site for photo storage, just for photo sharing, and deletion
when we need more space. But an estimate would help.
After the option became available, I set my groups to resize photos (on the Settings page) to 312x312. One group currently has 546 photos, taking up 25MB. That means I should be able to have about 20,000 photos, if I only stored photos. Since I also use files and other things that use storage, it will be somewhat less.

8. Is there a way to delete photos by date they were put on Camp.on? As in
deleting oldest ones first? And do you offer that service, or do we delete
them ourselves?
You'd need to delete photos manually. There's not currently a way to do bulk deletes (other than deleting an entire album), so it can be time consuming. Bulk delete is also on the TODO list. (BTW, this is a user-to-user group, not an official support group of io, so we can't do anything you can't.)

9. Do hashtags take up some of our memory? I know that files and databases
do. We will not be allowing attachments.
See #4 above.

Duane
Re: WordPress blog integration with Groups.io group?

 

You can connect WordPress RSS feed to the group.

ADmin / Integrations / Feed Integration
Re: changing profile

 

Awesome
Ok I will contact you off list later in the morning as it's only 1a.m. and the house is asleep
Thanks Joseph
sugar

"Heaven is full of answers to prayers for which no one ever bothered to ask. :


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Bless you, Sugar Lopez

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] changing profile

So sugar, did you get it fixed? Wanting to know as your message leave me to believe that you're still stuck. If you're still stuck, you can shoot me your phone number off the list, and I can help you navigate the website with Jaws if you would like. Is it is very tricky with the latest version. But I definitely know how to get by and help you get where you need to go. Please let me know.
On Jan 10, 2018, at 7:52 PM, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:

Yep that¡¯s right.
Thanks Joseph. Smile
Sugar
[excess quote trimmed by moderator]
Re: WordPress blog integration with Groups.io group?

 

Okay I maybe a 'wee' bit computer literate but what the heck's a IFTTT?

(:>J
Re: changing profile

Joseph Hudson
 

So sugar, did you get it fixed? Wanting to know as your message leave me to believe that you're still stuck. If you're still stuck, you can shoot me your phone number off the list, and I can help you navigate the website with Jaws if you would like. Is it is very tricky with the latest version. But I definitely know how to get by and help you get where you need to go. Please let me know.
On Jan 10, 2018, at 7:52 PM, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:

Yep that¡¯s right.
Thanks Joseph. Smile
Sugar
[excess quote trimmed by moderator]
Some questions

 

? We wish to be very prepared for questions from our members when we launch CampOn. Here are things we are not sure of. Thank you for your answers.?


1. If a person is already a member of CampOn and is a moderator or owner, does their moderator status result in a duplicate entry in CampOn?
2. Is the record of an owner transferred along with their membership from Camp2 to CampOn?
3. Is a sub-domain free? If it has photos are they counted in our 1 GB allotment? Do we just sign up for one as we signed up for Groups.io?
4. Do hash tags take up memory?
5. In our yahoo group we approve photos, but we cannot find a place to approve them in CampOn. Are we missing something?
6. We are unfamiliar with wiki, although I just read a description of it. My reaction is we do not need it. Any thoughts on that? Our members are older, mostly, and some can barely handle email. Does wiki take up some of our memory?
7. Could you give us an estimate of how many photos would fit in 1 GB when they are reduced to?about the 300x300?level? This is the only sticking point I can see with our members, but we do plan to explain to them that this is not a site for photo storage, just for photo sharing, and deletion when we need more space. But an estimate would help.
8. Is there a way to delete photos by date they were put on Camp.on? As in deleting oldest ones first? And do you offer that service, or do we delete them ourselves?
9. Do hashtags take up some of our memory? I know that files and databases do. We will not be allowing attachments.

Barbara Jones, Co-owner of CampOn
Re: Group . IO front page

Nancy in Renton
 

Yahoo calls the photo at the top a banner photo. The smaller one lower down is homepage photo.
Re: Additional member attribute(s) #suggestion

 

OK, I found the Notes field, but when you do a Search it doesn't search said notes field.? But as you suggest you could put the Notes in the drop-down; that might be useful

Seems like we have two different use cases.? ? ?I'd like a field that I can search on and email this subset of members.? ?But your use case of just 'additional information' on members, and let them fill in what fields they wish.

Your examples make me think - One implementation could be to create a default database for each group created called 'members'.? Tie it to the member list, but we could add any fields we wanted to.? If a member went away the entry in this database would go away.? Database could have the standard 'choose visibility' settings? (Now I wonder if this is become implementation gone wild.? :-)


I'm up for anything in beta - depends if you want to try a simple use case though (make notes searchable) or something more involved and database-like

- John



On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
John Mc,

> Has there been any thought/discussion to add one (or more) fields to
> the member information?

There is one "extra" field. If you open a member's page there's the "Notes" tab.

Alas, that feature is rather out-of-sight-out-of-mind right now, there's no indication given in the list that it holds content, and there are no notifications when a moderator updates that field. At least the update does get logged in the Moderator Activity log.

> Not trying to turn the member list into a full-out database - but for
> some lists it's nice to have one more bit of information about a
> person.? ?What street you live on for the neighborhood list.? What
> your plot number is for the community garden list.? ?Stuff like that.

I've often wished for functionality like this, but I've never come up with a proposed "best" way to do it.

Just adding more fields to the Members list is one approach. But it can make that list cluttered, which could ultimately be an impediment to its primary use cases. Maybe there would be a clever way to manage what is shown when there are too many columns to fit the user's window; a bit like Excel's split and/or freeze features.

I've also thought of having it be another selector, "Notes", in the Members list view button that currently selects Members, Moderators, Pending, Bouncing, or Banned. When "Notes" is selected then the custom fields are shown rather than the standard fields. But I think you'd have to have at least the email field automatically included, or both email and Display name. So you rapidly run into the same width problem as having them in the primary members list.

A pro or con of those ideas (depending on your use case) is that it would be available only to moderators.

Possibly one could do a similar thing built on the member Directory so that it could be made available to members if desired. In my classmate groups it would be desirable to allow members to add their current address, phone number, nick-name in school, activities, or other information to help everyone remember them. Even a second "then" picture to go with their current profile photo/avatar.

> Couldn't find anything searching old topics - is this wish list
> worthy?

I'd say yes. We could kick it around here some more if you like, or just go for it in beta.

Shal
Re: Cannot access group I just created #groupowner

 

On 10.01.2018 18:42, Shal Farley wrote:
Pedja,

> I am new to this. I just created my first group and set it to bi
> private. It seems it is not visible even for me. I just get error
>
>> Hmm. We¡¯re having trouble finding that site.
>> We can¡¯t connect to the server at ...

It sounds like you have the address wrong, and/or are not logged in
to Groups.io. Try going here:

/

If that page shows you a list of your group memberships then click on
the group you wish to visit.

If that page shows you general information about Groups.io then you
are not logged in. When you log in, be sure to use the same email address that you used when you created your group. Then go back to that page.

> Actually, after I created group it seemed normal, but then I decided
> to set how subgroups work, and created subgroup which I also set to be
> private. After that I was unable to access group or subgroup.

Creating a subgroup does change the address (both web and email) for
your group, but the old address should still work - it should automatically redirect you to the new address. And in any case, the group should be in your group list (at the link above).


It seemed like address was resolved by DNS but was still unknown to server. Some time later it settled and group is now accessible.

Thanks.

Pedja



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