|
Re: Yahoo Group Suddenly Comes To Life
Two other old Yahoo groups I belong to have also had occasional messages posted after the group had moved here. In both a moderator replies fairly quickly, "Sorry! This group has closed. We moved the group -- including archives -- to Groups.io with the same group name. Here is the url- xxx.com. Please send future messages to that group."
What I did, when I moved any of my groups to Groups.io, was leave the Yahoo group set to everyone is moderated. That way, when someone sent a message to the old YG! group, I would delete the message and then email them and make the same explanation as above. Almost without exception, the person would email me back and say it had been a mistake. That they sent the message from their email and the auto-address had filled in the wrong url. They'd also usually then delete the Yahoo address from their email address book. tommy0421 |
|
Re: Yahoo Group Suddenly Comes To Life
jonathon,
The anti-spam measures I set up, used to work. However, with theWe had a similar situation in one of my Yahoo Groups. What we did was change the group to "Anyone can apply to join this group, moderator approval is required" (it had been set for moderator approval NOT required). This doesn't prevent a spammer who becomes a member from posting, but it at least stopped the "drive-by" spammers who would join and spam. Except in the couple of cases where they fooled me and I approved their membership... Sigh. Shal -- Help: /helpcenter More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Re: Yahoo Group Suddenly Comes To Life
Rli,
Under Groups Settings over there, there's a Messages Reply To: andNo. It means the same thing there as here: it adds a Reply-To field to the header of outgoing messages so that replies by email (the only kind now) are directed as specified. It won't affect a new message sent to the group's posting address. Shal -- Help: /helpcenter More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Re: Attachments in Full Featured Digest
Ajay,
A member of a group I own brought into my notice today that theCorrect. Is there a way to send files as proper attachments, not just links, inNo. A member can received proper attachments only by choosing Individual Messages. A member may optionally set the Max Attachment Size control (in the Advanced Preferences panel of their subscription) to receive only smaller files as proper attachments. Or a way to open the attachment links without the need to log into theNo. But logging in is easy, provided that you have both web and email service available. No password or prior set-up required, just request an emailed link to log in. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/8901 If you're using a limited device that can receive email but not browse the web then you're a bit stuck. But it is likely you wouldn't be able to receive a sizeable attachment on such a device, or perhaps none at all. Shal -- Help: /helpcenter More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Re: aliceposta accounts in hard bounce
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Hank Montgomery wrote:
they are the only service I have ever heard of that shuts off a recipient on a single bounceOn the first bounce, GIO will still try to send bounce probes every 3 days unless it's one of the specifc hard bounces looked for.? That allows for minor disruptions to be corrected and things go back to normal.? (No sense trying to send xx emails to someone until there's an indication that they're not bouncing any more.)? It's only after repeated failures over the course of many days that the person is placed in Bounced status and has to do something to continue receiving messages.? There's a good explanation of the process at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/9674 Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center. GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki |
|
Re: Yahoo Group Suddenly Comes To Life
I think the old owners of the suddenly active Yahoo group still have ownership rights. What I did with a couple of my old Yahoo groups (that had been moved to io in 2018) was remove all the members except for myself and one moderator. Or the Groups.io transfer agent. Why not just delete the group? Sentimentality? I came close to deleting a couple of them but...I just couldn't do it. LOL
Actually, I believe in never say never. Who knows what may be in store down the road. tommy0421 |
|
Re: aliceposta accounts in hard bounce
Unless you have an account on the service in question, they'll ignore you.? That's why the people using it are the ones that need to complain.? They'll eventually realize they're bounced when they don't get any messages from any group.
That's where I find my (paid for) email hosting company to be helpful.? If I get a bounce when SENDING an email, I just notify them that THEIR IP address is being blocked and they can usually take care of the problem.? I think a reputable internet service gets more cooperation from the recipient's email service provider than an individual user can expect to get.? I realize that this puts a burden on the sending email service, but in my case that's part of the service I pay for, and is the best way to handle it.? If enough pressure is put on by respectable email services then maybe the flaws in the spam protection methods like using blacklists (they typically don't just blacklist a single IP address, they blacklist a whole block of addresses at a time) and restricting list services would get corrected.?
But GIO is not an email service provider, it is more like an email list, and many email lists track bounces and stop sending to addresses that exceed a reasonable bounce rate.? But if I understand the GIO process, they are the only service I have ever heard of that shuts off a recipient on a single bounce.? To me this is just adding a bad response on top of a bad situation!? It seems like 2 services fighting each other and the users who were intended recipients, and who did nothing wrong, are the victims. There has to be a better way! IMHO - we need to move toward secure email account registration and tracking as a much better method.? By ONLY accepting email from a registered secure account you could virtually eliminate SPAM.? Yes a burden at first, and inconvenient when you change services, but if the spam problem is averted then there is less reason to be changing accounts as often as your socks!? I would be willing to pay for such service, but it would only be effective when the majority if email users buy-into it, and that isn't likely to happen.? As long as free email is available people will just put up with SPAM - and complain about it. -- K4HM HANK? MONTGOMERY Hank@... |
|
Re: aliceposta accounts in hard bounce
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 08:00 AM, Marina wrote:
as alice.it, aliceposta.it, tim.it, tin.it all belong to Telecom ItaliaIf you can find a user of one of those services that has some extra time (and it seems many of us do right now ;>), you could work with them to try to get this changed.? Maybe the service doesn't realize that GIO is a legitimate group site.? Or they're using a blacklisting service that is way behind. Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center. GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki |
|
Re: Yahoo Group Suddenly Comes To Life
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 10:05 AM, Tommy Meehan wrote:
On the group's old Yahoo homepage it says the group has been "abandoned in place."That may be because there's no one left that can "shut down" the Y! group.? If there's still an owner, or mod with enough permissions, they may be able to change settings to prevent messages being accepted, as well as reminding folks that the group has moved.? Things have changed a lot, so I'm not sure how much control still remains. Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center. GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki |
|
Re: Redirect on login omits subdomain
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 09:54 AM, RFS wrote:
This sees like a very obvious bug that would affect the entire platform, but I see no reports of it anywhere in this group. Only this 3 year old bug fix:??If using the send login link function to access a subdomain, the redirect was incorrect after logging you in.Not a setting that I'm aware of.? It does sound like they would be related, so maybe an oversight.? It would probably be best to report this #bug on the with all the details you can come up with, to make it easier to duplicate.? You could also contact [email protected] if you have a premium group. Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center. GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki |
|
Yahoo Group Suddenly Comes To Life
I guess with the ongoing stay-at-home restrictions, many groups have become much busier. I referred to this previously as one of the few bright spots in an otherwise especially bleak time.
A couple times over the past six weeks messages posted in an old Yahoo Group --that was moved to io last November -- suddenly began appearing in my inbox. Apparently a few members had not gotten the word that the group moved six months ago. One of the respondents is someone I know, someone who DID move to the new group and has been fairly active there. I emailed him to ask, 'Why would they be posting the messages in the Yahoo group, do you think they don't know the group moved?" The down side is, there were images attached to some of the messages and those images were not stored by Yahoo. Also, the Yahoo Group is extremely slow while the io group is running about fifteen messages a day. Any members who have not gotten the word on the move are missing all that. To my surprise, at first the gentleman I contacted was baffled as to what I was talking about. It turned out, when he read and replied to the messages he never noticed they were from Yahoo. On the group's old Yahoo homepage it says the group has been "abandoned in place." I'm just a member of this group, and not a very active one (though I enjoy reading the messages), so I'm reluctant to do anything other than to have contacted the man I know. Has anyone else seen anything like this happen? tommy0421 |
Tommy Meehan
Shal Farley
Duane
Hank Montgomery