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Re: in reviewing the transfer instructions

 

In my experience the EMAIL route to invite/join is broken. The invited
member does receive the email but if they just reply to that nothing
else happens and they are not subscribed. But if they click the link in
that email which takes them to the group home page they can then
complete the subscription. Groups.io presumably does that - remember
they know all the ins and outs of yahoogroups. Whatever, invites for
[email protected] clearly do work, many of us have done that recently.

Dave

On 12 Dec 2017 at 21:06, Ruth Levi wrote:

i am able to promote members to moderator status(that feature was
broken, but now fixed, surprisingly)

# 3 happens...i hv been trying it today myself, n anticipation of the
# big
move to IO, with various email addresses & the invites never arrive. the
system shows them as having happened, but the invite emails never
arrive.
Re: Reply to Message

 
Edited

NYILLogistics,

How do you set the reply to message only to the Sender ?
As a matter of group policy, go to the Settings page and in the "Message Policies" section set the "Reply To" option to "Sender".

If you're talking about replying to an individual message it does depend on the group policy (as above) and whether you're replying via the group's Messages section or via your email interface.

Assuming the group is set to "Group", and replying via the Messages section, click Reply then look below the reply composition box and to the right. Click the "Private" button. That will change the green "Reply to Group" button to a blue "Reply to Sender" button. When you're ready to send your reply click that blue button.

Assuming the group is set to "Group", and replying via your email interface, the details may depend on what email interface you're using. In Thunderbird, for example, I would copy your address in the From field of your message, click reply, then paste your address into the To field of my reply, replacing the group's address.

Because your email address is modified for DMARC, I then have to delete the "@groups.io" part and replace the = sign with an @ sign. That is, convert:
user = example.com @ groups.io into
user @ example.com

Shal
Reply to Message

 

How do you set the reply to message only to the Sender ?
I do not want the reply to set to the entire group
Re: in reviewing the transfer instructions

 

ruthie,

we have been experiencing this phenomenon in our group for months,
across all email providers. the invites just never arrive, not in spam
either.
Yes, but groups.io is not your typical email provider. Again, no harm in trying it.

perhaps a Plan B is needed for transfers, if this is a more widespread
problem
I think an email to [email protected], including the name of your Yahoo Group, is about as good a plan B as could be.

Shal
Re: in reviewing the transfer instructions

 

we have been experiencing this phenomenon in our group for months, across all email providers. the invites just never arrive, not in spam either.

perhaps a Plan B is needed for transfers, if this is a more widespread problem

On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

ruthie,

# 3 happens...i hv been trying it today myself, n anticipation of the
big move to IO, with various email addresses & the invites never
arrive.
A number of things can happen between the invite page and the invitee's inbox. Most common is that the invitation gets diverted to the invitee's Spam folder. Sometimes the invitee's email service drops or rejects the invitation. I suppose it is possible that sometimes Yahoo Groups fails to send the invite, but I don't know how to get evidence of that.

I'd say try it (with [email protected]) anyway. If it fails no harm done and if it works it saves you and Mark some time working around it.

Shal
Re: in reviewing the transfer instructions

J_Catlady
 

If yahoo invite is really not working, I'm sure you could persuade Mark to apply to your group To make it easier, you could make your group unrestricted temporarily, until he joins. Just an idea.
J

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Ruth Levi <ruthlevi@...> wrote:
i am able to promote members to moderator status(that feature was broken,
but now fixed, surprisingly)

# 3 happens...i hv been trying it today myself, n anticipation of the big
move to IO, with various email addresses & the invites never arrive. the
system shows them as having happened, but the invite emails never arrive.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:GroupManagersForum@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] in reviewing the transfer instructions

ruthie,

?> i am not sure how i can accomplish the first step.i have not been able? >
to use the invite feature in my yahoogroup for months, so how can i? >
invite [email protected] to my old yahoogroup?

If you can't you can't. But perhaps you could write to [email protected] and
ask them to subscribe to your group. Assuming you can approve the transfer
agent (if needed) and promote to moderator.

I'm curious what happens when you try to invite someone.

1) Do you not even see the Manage Invitations item in the group's Management
menu (meaning that you haven't been granted that privilege)?

2) Do you get some kind of error message when you fill in the Invite page?

3) Does the invite page seem to work, but the invitees never seem to get the
invitation?

4) Something else?

If (3) I would suggest trying that for the transfer address anyway. Mark is
more savvy than the average user.

Shal
Re: in reviewing the transfer instructions

 

ruthie,

# 3 happens...i hv been trying it today myself, n anticipation of the
big move to IO, with various email addresses & the invites never
arrive.
A number of things can happen between the invite page and the invitee's inbox. Most common is that the invitation gets diverted to the invitee's Spam folder. Sometimes the invitee's email service drops or rejects the invitation. I suppose it is possible that sometimes Yahoo Groups fails to send the invite, but I don't know how to get evidence of that.

I'd say try it (with [email protected]) anyway. If it fails no harm done and if it works it saves you and Mark some time working around it.

Shal
Re: in reviewing the transfer instructions

 

i am able to promote members to moderator status(that feature was broken,
but now fixed, surprisingly)

# 3 happens...i hv been trying it today myself, n anticipation of the big
move to IO, with various email addresses & the invites never arrive. the
system shows them as having happened, but the invite emails never arrive.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Shal Farley
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] in reviewing the transfer instructions

ruthie,

> i am not sure how i can accomplish the first step.i have not been able >
to use the invite feature in my yahoogroup for months, so how can i >
invite [email protected] to my old yahoogroup?

If you can't you can't. But perhaps you could write to [email protected] and
ask them to subscribe to your group. Assuming you can approve the transfer
agent (if needed) and promote to moderator.

I'm curious what happens when you try to invite someone.

1) Do you not even see the Manage Invitations item in the group's Management
menu (meaning that you haven't been granted that privilege)?

2) Do you get some kind of error message when you fill in the Invite page?

3) Does the invite page seem to work, but the invitees never seem to get the
invitation?

4) Something else?

If (3) I would suggest trying that for the transfer address anyway. Mark is
more savvy than the average user.

Shal
Re: using the invite feature

J_Catlady
 

This has nothing to do with moderation. It has to do with being a membership-restricted group or not. Once they're in, they will be moderated or not according to the group policy (unmoderated, moderated, or NuM).
J

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:
Hi Ruthie
Well, I am no expert, but if it is an unmoderated group, I believe the first message of each new member is moderated. Perhaps you could intervene at that stage with your questionnaire rather than approving the message.
Or this could be automated in some way.
Just a thought.

Frances

[mod note: the first message is moderated only if the group has selected New Users Moderated.]


Re: using the invite feature

J_Catlady
 

No. Once you invite someone, they are pre-approved.?
But you can send the person a link to the group's home page and suggest that they apply for membership.
J

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Ruth Levi <ruthlevi@...> wrote:

i like to invite new people to my group, but i need them to fill out the membership questionnaire first. it seems n IO, that once i invite someone, as long as they reply, even with a blank email, they automatically get added to the group. is there a way to keep an invited person in the pending status, until we approve their membership?

?

thanks,

?

ruthie levi

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Re: in reviewing the transfer instructions

 

ruthie,

i am not sure how i can accomplish the first step…i have not been able
to use the invite feature in my yahoogroup for months, so how can i
invite [email protected] to my old yahoogroup?
If you can't you can't. But perhaps you could write to [email protected] and ask them to subscribe to your group. Assuming you can approve the transfer agent (if needed) and promote to moderator.

I'm curious what happens when you try to invite someone.

1) Do you not even see the Manage Invitations item in the group's Management menu (meaning that you haven't been granted that privilege)?

2) Do you get some kind of error message when you fill in the Invite page?

3) Does the invite page seem to work, but the invitees never seem to get the invitation?

4) Something else?

If (3) I would suggest trying that for the transfer address anyway. Mark is more savvy than the average user.

Shal
Re: using the invite feature

 

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thanks, Shal & Frances. It is a moderated group. good suggestion, Shal. we just won’t use the invite feature. will send a form email instead. much appreciated advice, folks! thanks!

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 8:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] using the invite feature

?

Hi Ruthie
Well, I am no expert, but if it is an unmoderated group, I believe the first message of each new member is moderated. Perhaps you could intervene at that stage with your questionnaire rather than approving the message.
Or this could be automated in some way.
Just a thought.

Frances

[mod note: the first message is moderated only if the group has selected New Users Moderated.]

Re: using the invite feature

 

Ruthie,

it seems n IO, that once i invite someone, as long as they reply, even
with a blank email, they automatically get added to the group.
Correct. Just as in Yahoo Groups, an invitation constitutes approval of the member.

is there a way to keep an invited person in the pending status, until
we approve their membership?
Don't invite them. Instead send them an email with a mailto: link for the +subscribe command, and/or an http: link to the group's home page.

Shal
Re: when requesting to join my new IO group, via the subscribe email

 

Ruth,

a new member gets this initial email(below) & then my personalized
one. can this first one(text below) be deleted from my new subscriber
requests?
No, I don't believe you can.

This one is sent by the system regardless of your group settings. It serves as an email address confirmation. If the member does not reply to this mail I think they do not receive your group's welcome or pending message.

Shal
Re: using the invite feature

 

Hi Ruthie
Well, I am no expert, but if it is an unmoderated group, I believe the first message of each new member is moderated. Perhaps you could intervene at that stage with your questionnaire rather than approving the message.
Or this could be automated in some way.
Just a thought.

Frances

[mod note: the first message is moderated only if the group has selected New Users Moderated.]

in reviewing the transfer instructions

 

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i am not sure how i can accomplish the first step…i have not been able to use the invite feature in my yahoogroup for months, so how can i invite [email protected] to my old yahoogroup?

?

i promise i will have less questions soon. just very particular about getting this right. thanks for indulging me.

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ruthie levi

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using the invite feature

 

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i like to invite new people to my group, but i need them to fill out the membership questionnaire first. it seems n IO, that once i invite someone, as long as they reply, even with a blank email, they automatically get added to the group. is there a way to keep an invited person in the pending status, until we approve their membership?

?

thanks,

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ruthie levi

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when requesting to join my new IO group, via the subscribe email

 

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a new member gets this initial email(below) & then my personalized one. can this first one(text below) be deleted from my new subscriber requests? it really serves no purpose. my own pending subscription notice has a questionnaire that i want all new members to fill out.? thanks!

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“贬别濒濒辞,

Thank you for your interest in Groups.io and the group [email protected]. To complete your subscription, please reply to this email.

If you did not request - or do not want - a subscription to this group, please accept our apologies and ignore this message.


Cheers,
The Groups.io Team”
Re: Why no List-Post: header?

 

I actually went and read the RFC, so need to amend my previous comment.? For anonymous groups, when/if added, it wouldn't be needed since it would duplicate the only option available, but shouldn't hurt anything.? On those type groups, messages via email would never contain the original posters email address.? If that possible future mechanism were an option that could be implemented in groups that discourage direct contact, it would solve both problems.

Duane
Re: New io group not activated

 

? Thanks Dave!?

? ? I think it will work out and most of the members are looking forward to the move!

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