Mike,

I have yet to find a method of stopping the default message appearing;
a message that doesn't suit my needs.

As others have said, you can't.

But you can use a horizontal line at the top and bottom of your custom insert so as to clearly separate it from the boilerplate.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/27136

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That is too easy! We have about 1200 members so should have no trouble following your instruction.

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 08:44 PM, Mark Levy wrote:

But somewhere along the line, I apparently managed to erase my group ownership so I can't delete or rename the group.

The last owner can't be deleted or leave.? There's either another owner or you used a different email address to create the account you used to create the group.? If it were me, I'd log out of the site, then try entering various email addresses I have in the "Email me a link to login" page to see if one of them works, /sendloginlink

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John,

As owner or moderator over at YG, when you see the member listing, yes there are a random mix of the not-disclosed people with no email.? Thank Yahoo for the Geocities merge on that one.

How to get another 1,000 members?? Simple, click on the first or last name column.? It will the sort to that click.? Now do another download of the membership. :) :) :)

Now you can take all of these lists and do a sort for duplicates in EXCEL.? When done, you could have a good listing to do INVITES here from GroupsIO.
?
So, pick the columns you can sort by before downloading in YG.

BMaverick

I left out -- in ADMIN (if found) go to Settings next.

Rick

Go to the following link:
/g/paxboard
See if there is an ADMIN section in the left side listings.
Click on it and scroll to bottom. Look at right side.
If not -- are there any other Owners/Co-Owners you could contact?

Rick

Bryan,

In our case, I'm considering creation of a subgroup that is
restricted to moderators/owners, and private, for them to have a
private place to discuss, share knowledge, training, etc.

I think that's a fine idea, with just one caveat: you end up with the subdomain addressing scheme.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup#Subdomain-addressing

If you have, or are planning to have, other subgroups then you'll have that anyway, so one more subgroup is fine. Otherwise you might care because:

1) Having that addressing scheme will tip off the members to the fact that there is at least one subgroup, even if that subgroup's privacy settings prevent them from even learning its name.

2) Some people think the subdomain addressing scheme "looks funny" or is otherwise undesirable.

Essentially, modeled after this very Group Managers Forum... just for
our group, only.

Two of my Yahoo Groups have a separate group for the moderators, most do not. Sometimes it was convenient when there were things to discuss, but largely they went unused. I didn't make a subgroup for the mods of this GMF largely because the Yahoo GMF ran without a separate moderators' group and I don't think we ever missed having one.

One of my Yahoo groups that moved here years ago had a separate moderators group, and I'm quite happy having that as a subgroup now. But that group has other subgroups that the primary members can see and join.

So I think it is very much a "Your Mileage May Vary" situation. It will depend a lot on the culture, activity, and size of your group; as well as of your moderating team. GMF is a very open group, so we don't need to have private discussions about whether someone should be admitted to the group and other matters of member management. My Yahoo Groups that had mod team groups were restrictive in their membership.

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I have Comcast email, and I believe that I'm getting all of my messages from all of my groups.? I do NOT use MS Outlook, so maybe that is the problem (both together).? I usually use Chrome, but I'm out of town and my laptop uses Firefox (my phone uses Chrome, too).?

Cheryl

Hi all,

This week's change log:



Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

CHANGE: Modified message import code to support mbox files from Yahoo
Group's export system.

Yay! That will help many who've received their GetMyData files and have been wondering how to import the messages. I'm assuming that the pre-paid upgrade of the target group to the Premium Yearly plan is required for this too.

BUGFIX: When changing your email address, we were sending the warning
email to the new email address when we should have been sending it
to the old email address.

That could explain some of the confusion people have reported in GMF...

NEW: Added additional information to the Sent message requiring
approval activity log line, specifying exactly why a message was
moderated. This duplicated the Message from member required approval
because of virus line, which I have removed.

Excellent. I recall we had some in GMF who were puzzled by why some messages were held pending. This could help resolve cases like that in the future.

NEW: Added 'Deleted Account' activity log entry for when people delete
their accounts.

Another good one for resolving mysteries.

CHANGE: Changed Zendesk to send back an acknowledgement when a support
email is received.

Is that a change, or a bugfix, I wonder. It used to send acknowledgements. The last one I kept was back on October 13.

NEW: Special messages are now sent with the subject tag [Special].

Helpful in those groups that use the feature.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

BUGFIX: When a poll was created and moderated, if a group moderator
edited the poll before approving it, the poll ownership was
mistakenly changed to the moderator.
CHANGE: All premium groups now have 20GB of storage.
CHANGE: The 'Note Sent To Attendees' email sent to people reply yes to
an event, as well as the email notifying someone they have been
moved from the waitlist to the attending list, were sent from the
+owner email address. They are now sent as coming from the creator
of the event.
INTERNAL: Wrote a new utility to do some consistency checking and
cleanups of the various databases.
API: We are now ratelimiting the /downloadarchives endpoint because of
abuse.
INTERNAL: Developed a new system to make it easier to grep through all
the various logs to research problems in the system.
INTERNAL: Switched from a redis-based rate limiting system to a custom
system.
INTERNAL: Switched from a redis-based session tracking system to a
custom system.
CHANGE: Display the updated date in the 'Uploaded' column in the files
section.
CHANGE: Previously, when a group had separate footers checked, we
would not try to strip out any remnant footers from incoming
replies. Because some mailers combine multiple text parts when
replying, we still need to look for these footers in replies,
otherwise unsubscribe links could be inadvertently sent out.
BUGFIX: For some reason, a few people started receiving duplicate
summaries the last couple of days. I refactored the code that
generates the summaries and that fixed the problem even though that
code hadn't been touched in months.
NEW: Added new Event Summary Email interval: Bi-Weekly on Fridays.
BUGFIX: For enterprise groups without a custom home page, setting
disable sign up to true would result in an endless redirect.
API: Added /updatewikipage, /deletewikipage and /deletewikirevision
endpoints.
BUGFIX: For people on special messages only, the message footers
wrongly said You receive all messages sent to this group.
API: Changed moderated to moderation in the Group object.
SYSADMIN: Upgraded hot spare database instance to have the same
resources as our main database.
BUGFIX: Fixed line breaks in the index in the plain text digest.
API: Added plan field to group object.
API: Added nice_group_name, cover_photo_url, icon_url, subs_count,
most_recent_message fields to the member_info object.
API: Changed the sort options for the /getsubs endpoint and added the
set_home_page parameter.
API: First pass at /getdatabaserows endpoint.
API: Added is_reply field to Message object.
INTERNAL: Lots of technical debt formatting issues cleaned up.
API: Added /getdatabases endpoint.
INTERNAL: Split smtpauthd from smtpd server to make things more clear.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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See the wiki page on moving to Groups.io.

Info on moving members as well as uploading messages.

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:13 PM, John Robertson wrote:

I have been lurking, but now have a question. Trying to move a Yahoo group (Dneprheads) and when I did the big download as an owner for the basic 1,000 list (doing the screen dump) a lot came through as "(not disclosed)". I did get all the archived messages, images, and data.

You have to be a Moderator of the group to get the email addresses.

Bruce

Back in November I set up a group (PAXBoard) as a test when an organization I belong to was considering moving to groups.io from Yahoo!groups.?

I would like to delete [email protected] in order to avoid confusion with [email protected], where we ended up moving our former yahoo group.

But somewhere along the line, I apparently managed to erase my group ownership so I can't delete or rename the group.

Does anyone here know if there any way in which I or someone else can erase PAXBoard@groups?

Thanks!
Mark Levy

Donald,

Per your comment,
"As I understand it, the PGO program will eventually be able to archive
GIO content for more thorough searching through the messages. That
will happen most likely after the work on P2G is finished."

That is really good.? At present reading on the GroupsIO website for messages or search is a bit time consuming.? PGO worked much like the old fashioned dial-up offline email readers did in the past.? Think JUNO and NETZERO era.???

Having a PGO4GIO Reader/Reply software would make a very useful interface to use.??

Not sure if the phpBB would take on.? phpBB is one of the most hack attacked softwares on the internet.? phpBB is user board software for web hosting sites.?? That's one big reason why our group chose GroupsIO in the first place.

BMaverick

I have been lurking, but now have a question. Trying to move a Yahoo group (Dneprheads) and when I did the big download as an owner for the basic 1,000 list (doing the screen dump) a lot came through as "(not disclosed)". I did get all the archived messages, images, and data.

Is there a way to get the real email addresses? Should I RTFM again?

Thanks!

John :-#)#

I passed on the Wiki information to my member and now at least Comcast is not deleting the IO messages before they even hit her spam folder on their website. However they are now landing in the spam folder there so she has to contact them to ask how to mark them as "not spam" as she can't find a way to do that there. So there is some progress anyways and some of the emails are finally coming through to her.
Annick

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 06:49 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:

This should actually say:

Go to Members. Select the member.
Click on "Send Message" button (at bottom of page)
Select "From:" address (drop down menu) either Owner or personal (this is the only address that will be used)
Fill in Subject
Compose message body
OR
Change "--Notices--" (in drop down menu) to other Member Message (e.g. "Pending Subscription" Member Notice)
THEN choose whether or not to check BCC: "Me" and/or "All Moderators"
Click "Send to Member"
NOTE: the message sent will have your group's Message Footer appended.

Wiki updated.?

Note that the wiki (for the most part) is editable by all GMF subscribers. A community effort!

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 05:12 PM, J Forster wrote:

Has anyone actually used a Yahoo download to move a group? If so, any hints?

See /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69538488 and /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io#Upload-Services

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I don't know about other default messages, but the invite message is only 4 lines telling the recipient that they have been invited to the list, how they can contact someone for more info and how they can accept the invitation. I don't see how it could be made any shorter. I add another paragraph with a little info about what the content of the list is like and welcoming them to our group. There's never been any problems with this as far as I know. I really don't see what the issue is.

Jonathan

On Jan 10, 2020, at 1:11 PM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:

You can also send a "note to member" with just the group owner email address. Your personal login email address will not show.

Go to Members. Select the member.
Go to +Owner Messages button.
Click Reply.
If Note To Member doesn't come up, change to that from the dropdown list.
BCC yourself or all mods.
Send.
The message will only have the group owner email address.

This should actually say:

Go to Members. Select the member.
Click on "Send Message" button (at bottom of page)
Select "From:" address (drop down menu) either Owner or personal (this is the only address that will be used)
Fill in Subject
Compose message body
OR
Change "--Notices--" (in drop down menu) to other Member Message (e.g. "Pending Subscription" Member Notice)
THEN choose whether or not to check BCC: "Me" and/or "All Moderators"
Click "Send to Member"
NOTE: the message sent will have your group's Message Footer appended.