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See the wiki page on moving to Groups.io.

Info on moving members as well as uploading messages.

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GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:13 PM, John Robertson wrote:

I have been lurking, but now have a question. Trying to move a Yahoo group (Dneprheads) and when I did the big download as an owner for the basic 1,000 list (doing the screen dump) a lot came through as "(not disclosed)". I did get all the archived messages, images, and data.

You have to be a Moderator of the group to get the email addresses.

Bruce

Back in November I set up a group (PAXBoard) as a test when an organization I belong to was considering moving to groups.io from Yahoo!groups.?

I would like to delete [email protected] in order to avoid confusion with [email protected], where we ended up moving our former yahoo group.

But somewhere along the line, I apparently managed to erase my group ownership so I can't delete or rename the group.

Does anyone here know if there any way in which I or someone else can erase PAXBoard@groups?

Thanks!
Mark Levy

Donald,

Per your comment,
"As I understand it, the PGO program will eventually be able to archive
GIO content for more thorough searching through the messages. That
will happen most likely after the work on P2G is finished."

That is really good.? At present reading on the GroupsIO website for messages or search is a bit time consuming.? PGO worked much like the old fashioned dial-up offline email readers did in the past.? Think JUNO and NETZERO era.???

Having a PGO4GIO Reader/Reply software would make a very useful interface to use.??

Not sure if the phpBB would take on.? phpBB is one of the most hack attacked softwares on the internet.? phpBB is user board software for web hosting sites.?? That's one big reason why our group chose GroupsIO in the first place.

BMaverick

I have been lurking, but now have a question. Trying to move a Yahoo group (Dneprheads) and when I did the big download as an owner for the basic 1,000 list (doing the screen dump) a lot came through as "(not disclosed)". I did get all the archived messages, images, and data.

Is there a way to get the real email addresses? Should I RTFM again?

Thanks!

John :-#)#

I passed on the Wiki information to my member and now at least Comcast is not deleting the IO messages before they even hit her spam folder on their website. However they are now landing in the spam folder there so she has to contact them to ask how to mark them as "not spam" as she can't find a way to do that there. So there is some progress anyways and some of the emails are finally coming through to her.
Annick

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 06:49 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:

This should actually say:

Go to Members. Select the member.
Click on "Send Message" button (at bottom of page)
Select "From:" address (drop down menu) either Owner or personal (this is the only address that will be used)
Fill in Subject
Compose message body
OR
Change "--Notices--" (in drop down menu) to other Member Message (e.g. "Pending Subscription" Member Notice)
THEN choose whether or not to check BCC: "Me" and/or "All Moderators"
Click "Send to Member"
NOTE: the message sent will have your group's Message Footer appended.

Wiki updated.?

Note that the wiki (for the most part) is editable by all GMF subscribers. A community effort!

Frances
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Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)

GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 05:12 PM, J Forster wrote:

Has anyone actually used a Yahoo download to move a group? If so, any hints?

See /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69538488 and /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io#Upload-Services

Duane
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GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
Help: /static/help
Search button at the top of Messages list
A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions

I don't know about other default messages, but the invite message is only 4 lines telling the recipient that they have been invited to the list, how they can contact someone for more info and how they can accept the invitation. I don't see how it could be made any shorter. I add another paragraph with a little info about what the content of the list is like and welcoming them to our group. There's never been any problems with this as far as I know. I really don't see what the issue is.

Jonathan

On Jan 10, 2020, at 1:11 PM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:

You can also send a "note to member" with just the group owner email address. Your personal login email address will not show.

Go to Members. Select the member.
Go to +Owner Messages button.
Click Reply.
If Note To Member doesn't come up, change to that from the dropdown list.
BCC yourself or all mods.
Send.
The message will only have the group owner email address.

This should actually say:

Go to Members. Select the member.
Click on "Send Message" button (at bottom of page)
Select "From:" address (drop down menu) either Owner or personal (this is the only address that will be used)
Fill in Subject
Compose message body
OR
Change "--Notices--" (in drop down menu) to other Member Message (e.g. "Pending Subscription" Member Notice)
THEN choose whether or not to check BCC: "Me" and/or "All Moderators"
Click "Send to Member"
NOTE: the message sent will have your group's Message Footer appended.

Paul . . .

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:31:01 -0800, "Events events"
<events@...> wrote:

Why are we forced to use these defaults??

This would be best posted in the beta group as a suggestion since we,
as a self-help group, can't make that happen. I don't think we know
why it's not more flexible. I agree that I'd like to customize the
messages.

If you're a premium group owner maybe send a note to support.


Donald

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 06:32 PM, Events events wrote:

Is there something that can be done about this? ?It seems like the default messages do not meet the needs of many group owners. ?

For me, they are too long and emphasize things that are not important to the way that my members will be using Groups.io. ?

Why are we forced to use these defaults??

The main example given was the Invite email.
I don't see a problem.

Here's what is in the boilerplate:

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GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

John . . .

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:01:03 -0500, "J Forster"
<JFor.Groups@...> wrote:

Has anyone actually used a Yahoo download to move a group? If so, any hints?

There is some information either here or in the YG equivalent of this
group about a utility that can be used to upload the MBOX format files
Yahoo sends you. It's not easy-peasy though. I think the developer of
the script that does that is Lena, so look for her name to locate
those posts.

This might get you started:

/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251

Also, is the PG message upload utility fully operational now?

Not yet. You will no doubt see an announcement here when it's ready so
just watch this group for when it's ready.

I'm waiting for the next version to test. I would recommend remaining
patient and consider yourself fortunate as long as you have your group
data downloaded by PGO. In most cases, waiting to upload them is much
better than having to pay $220 to move the group (before the YG!
cutoff for that) or losing the posts altogether.

The developer was also working on a port of GIO groups to phpBB for
hosting on a web hosting service to turn it into a forum of sorts. He
has a separate person doing the coding for the P2G uploader.

As I understand it, the PGO program will eventually be able to archive
GIO content for more thorough searching through the messages. That
will happen most likely after the work on P2G is finished.

Donald


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Is there something that can be done about this? ?It seems like the default messages do not meet the needs of many group owners. ?

For me, they are too long and emphasize things that are not important to the way that my members will be using Groups.io. ?

Why are we forced to use these defaults??

Paul

Has anyone actually used a Yahoo download to move a group? If so, any hints?

Also, is the PG message upload utility fully operational now?

-John

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 05:58 PM, Thomas Gruber wrote:

I just received a message from Yahoo that they extended their deadline for downloading content to 31.January.
Maybe interesting for some.

If you are still trying to move a group to Groups.io, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

Frances

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Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)

GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

Hi,
I just received a message from Yahoo that they extended their deadline for downloading content to 31.January.
Maybe interesting for some.
Thomas


Mod's note: not new, but worth a reminder!

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:00 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:

update the email

Not sure what you mean by that...

Chris

I had a similar situation with Roadrunner email and the solution was
also similar. I had the option in the email setup on their web site to
have them mark in the subject line SPAM for those messages they
thought were spam but send them on to me and NOT put them in a spam
folder. I use an email client on my PC and occasionally see SPAM on
the subject line. As often as not, the email is not spam.

That was happening after they made a change a few years ago and I lost
some emails that way. I no longer have the problem.

Now I get all messages and I do the choosing of what's spam and what's
not. I don't mind the SPAM appended to some subject lines as it gives
me a heads-up to check to be sure.

Donald

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:06:13 -0800, "Frances" <frances@...>
wrote:

Hope this helps, Annick - see attached email.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Comcast.net

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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM
/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp