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Re: Face Book

Glenn Glazer
 

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The short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is that Facebook does not provide identity information, and in particular, email addresses of members to Facebook group owners. At that point, one would have to ask every member for their email address and pretty much start a new group from scratch. The much longer answer involves a bunch of technical details on how Facebook groups store and present data in completely different ways than groups do.

Best,

Glenn

On 12/15/2019 14:26, Janice wrote:

I have been contacted by a friend who is a member of a health related Face Book group.? The owner of that group is looking for a different place to host her group.? I am not a Face Book user so my question may be silly.? Can Groups.io transfer a group from Face Book like they did for me from Yahoo?

Janice B
Utah
New Statler Siblings--a long arm quilting group.


Re: Failed transfers.....

 

I purchased the PGOffline program and with that was able to download and export the list of members by display name.? But I am NOT getting the email addresses or any other member data.? Does anyone know if there is a way to do that with PGO?? Or, failing that, can the Chrome app do it?

Frances, by purchase I meant the transfer service from iogroups.

I also tried the Archiveteam but it returned an error message.? Will try it again. ? https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups

Thanks.

Alan


Face Book

 

I have been contacted by a friend who is a member of a health related Face Book group.? The owner of that group is looking for a different place to host her group.? I am not a Face Book user so my question may be silly.? Can Groups.io transfer a group from Face Book like they did for me from Yahoo?

Janice B
Utah
New Statler Siblings--a long arm quilting group.


Re: Yahoo group deadline extension #yahoo #transfer

 

Don't know how long it will last, but as of December 15th at 3:15 PM CDT, all the files and data are still there.

Dennis


Re: Yahoo group deadline extension #yahoo #transfer

 

Bruce,
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Yes, you are so right.? That's why I've spend the entire day snagging more messages on this borrowed time.? Come Monday morning, the chances will be much slimmer.
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Per Yahoo's notice ...
Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites. ....
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The key word is STARTING.? So, speculating it will be a slow process.? Maybe whacking the lower fruit groups with the least members and small content along with years of in-activity.?? BUT, I could be wrong on that too.
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BMaverick


Re: Are other users of spectrum/charter getting this?

 

Not on my Spectrum, but our region was once Frontier and not the T-W region.?

Looks like you have to call your regional Spectrum/Charter folks and get things fixed.
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BMaverick


Re: Can polls show results but responder information?

Zhao Li
 

Yea, but it's unfortunate that the results cannot be viewed by regular subscribers...


On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 11:03 AM Frances <frances@...> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 03:51 PM, Frances wrote:
I haven't tested to see whether "only display results when the poll has closed" suppresses the individual voting choices and the names of responders. I assume that it won't show since the last possibility is "do not show who responded to the poll".
Just tested. The respondents' names do not show, even for the owner!?

Checked - Allow multiple choices.
Only moderators and poll creators can view results and responders, regardless of whether the poll is open or closed.
Checked - Only display results when the poll has closed. Moderators and poll creators can always view results.
Checked - Do not show who responded to the poll.

Frances
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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

 

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> I think the plain text in admin, settings modifies Attachments,
>?not the messages themselves.
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Plain text applies to the message itself. However if the sender doesn't actually send in plain text, the system has to do the conversion itself. It appears that occasionally that conversion can convert HTML to plain text instead of deleting it. Plain text will allow live links. I believe the system extracts to ASCII and not to Extended ASCII or UTF-8, because some characters don't come through.
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Normalize HTML Emails is not as restrictive as plain text and will allow through more than plain text, but as noted, strips out color and font information.
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Dano
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Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

 

On my two groups Plain Text Only is working. For one I chose Attachments - Strip, for another Attachments - Allow.


Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?

Zhao Li
 

Thank you Chris for the information and recommendation.? I will follow your advice :)

Thanks again for your time,
Zhao

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 08:39 PM, Zhao Li wrote:
Is it possible to send an email to an old topic and have it be related to the topic/thread?
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I see it's possible using the web interface,
That's almost certainly the best way.

but was wondering if it's possible by emailing.
Well... maybe. If the poster gets the subject line more or less completely correct and the previous post is less than 30 days old then it should thread correctly. Groups.io does its best but if the subject line is too much of a mismatch then it probably won't succeed, and the quoted figure of 30 days is a hard and fast rule; over that and it won't thread.

In your position I would recommend members to not try to play catch - up by email but to do if from the web UI.

Chris


Re: Can polls show results but responder information?

 

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 03:51 PM, Frances wrote:
I haven't tested to see whether "only display results when the poll has closed" suppresses the individual voting choices and the names of responders. I assume that it won't show since the last possibility is "do not show who responded to the poll".
Just tested. The respondents' names do not show, even for the owner!?

Checked - Allow multiple choices.
Only moderators and poll creators can view results and responders, regardless of whether the poll is open or closed.
Checked - Only display results when the poll has closed. Moderators and poll creators can always view results.
Checked - Do not show who responded to the poll.

Frances
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Re: Can polls show results but responder information?

Zhao Li
 

Hi Frances,

Thank you for the response.? I tried all of those settings but couldn't get the desired result.? Thank you for confirming that I did not miss a feature/setting somewhere.

Thanks again for your time,
Zhao

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 10:51 AM Frances <frances@...> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 03:43 PM, Zhao Li wrote:
Is it possible to configure polls to only show results but not give out information about who responded and their choices?
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The choices are:

Allow multiple choices.
Only moderators and poll creators can view results and responders, regardless of whether the poll is open or closed.
Only display results when the poll has closed. Moderators and poll creators can always view results.
Do not show who responded to the poll.

I haven't tested to see whether "only display results when the poll has closed" suppresses the individual voting choices and the names of responders. I assume that it won't show since the last possibility is "do not show who responded to the poll".

Frances
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GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers


Re: Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?

 

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 08:39 PM, Zhao Li wrote:
Is it possible to send an email to an old topic and have it be related to the topic/thread?
?
I see it's possible using the web interface,
That's almost certainly the best way.

but was wondering if it's possible by emailing.
Well... maybe. If the poster gets the subject line more or less completely correct and the previous post is less than 30 days old then it should thread correctly. Groups.io does its best but if the subject line is too much of a mismatch then it probably won't succeed, and the quoted figure of 30 days is a hard and fast rule; over that and it won't thread.

In your position I would recommend members to not try to play catch - up by email but to do if from the web UI.

Chris


Re: Can polls show results but responder information?

 

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 03:43 PM, Zhao Li wrote:
Is it possible to configure polls to only show results but not give out information about who responded and their choices?
?
The choices are:

Allow multiple choices.
Only moderators and poll creators can view results and responders, regardless of whether the poll is open or closed.
Only display results when the poll has closed. Moderators and poll creators can always view results.
Do not show who responded to the poll.

I haven't tested to see whether "only display results when the poll has closed" suppresses the individual voting choices and the names of responders. I assume that it won't show since the last possibility is "do not show who responded to the poll".

Frances
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Can polls show results but responder information?

Zhao Li
 

Hi GMF,

Is it possible to configure polls to only show results but not give out information about who responded and their choices?

Thank you for your time, :)
Zhao


Re: Failed transfers.....

 

I requested downloads from Yahoo on Oct 19 but
nothing ever happened. I have just repeated the
requests and they have been acknowledged.
Alan -
Did you check your Yahoo Mail box? I made that mistake the first time and the reply had been sitting there.

I just requested a new download in case this one gets something the last one missed.

Dano


Is it possible to email an old thread by it's message number?

Zhao Li
 

Hi GMF,

Is it possible to send an email to an old topic and have it be related to the topic/thread?

I see it's possible using the web interface, but was wondering if it's possible by emailing.

Can I include the message number (attached screenshot) on the subject line or something?

Thank you for your help,
Zhao
MessageNumber.png


Re: Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

 

I think the plain text in admin, settings modifies Attachments, not the messages themselves.

If you want to delete colour etc. in the message itself, tick this checkbox:
Normalize HTML Emails
Strip all different fonts and colors from HTML emails.

Hope this gets at part of your problem.

Frances
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Plain text only setting still includes HTML message part #settings #listmanagement

 

I've configured my group Messaging Formatting with only "Plain Text Only"
checks. (See attached.) This isn't working how I expected it to. A recent
message to the list [1] is showing up with HTML both on the Groups.io site
and in the copy that I received in my email. This is most obvious at the end
of the message where there is a link preview for a link to Google Groups.

I expected that by checking "Plain Text Only", that the HTML part of the
author's message would have been would have been dropped before the message
was stored in the group's archive or sent to members with email delivery
configured.

Have I misunderstood this feature? Can someone explain what it does & the
intended use?

It looks like the author of this message may have composed it in the Outlook
desktop client or with the Outlook.com web client. I can't tell from the
headers...

In the message source on Groups.io (not visible to the general public, but
at [2]), the Content-Type headers is

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_000_AM7PR04MB688855C84D1E91BC091B6937A4560AM7PR04MB6888eurp_"

And, indeed, there are two parts, a text/plain part and a text/html part:

--_000_AM7PR04MB688855C84D1E91BC091B6937A4560AM7PR04MB6888eurp_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

--_000_AM7PR04MB688855C84D1E91BC091B6937A4560AM7PR04MB6888eurp_
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[1]: /g/rapidq/message/13
[2]: /g/rapidq/original/13

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Christopher Warrington <lists@...>


Re: Failed transfers.....

 

I requested (purchased) two transfers of Yahoo groups.

Of the first (Greendel), the Yahoo membership was 991 and 436 ended up in the IO group.? Of course I was able to download the membership from Yahoo directly.

Of the second (Delaware State Freecycle) of the 9000 some members none got transferred.? And of course Yahoo limits the easy downloads to a max of 1000.

I requested downloads from Yahoo on Oct 19 but nothing ever happened.? I have just repeated the requests and they have been acknowledged.

So I am not sure what to do now.? Would people suggest buying the PGOffline product?? It triggers all sorts of "publisher unknown" warnings on my machine.? Is there another way to capature the membership list?

Have you looked at this wiki page on options?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io
See also: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/26169

I am puzzled though - who did you purchase the two transfers from?

Frances
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