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On 12/12/2019 6:35 PM, Alex wrote:

I just now stumbled onto that subject in the group.io updates forum, if I understood right it is posted by Mark.
Maybe someone can tell me it ain’t so?
(I have a major group I was Procrastinating transferring from yahoo groups!)
what happened??

I guess most Yahoo users haven't heard about the impending closure.

Since there were at least ten million groups at Yahoo, of which Mark has said about 3000 moved here recently, that leaves 9,997,000 more who are about to get a pre-Christmas surprise.

Alex, as others have said, there are several tools you can use (but only up until Saturday) to retrieve and store your members and messages, in the hope that you can get them onto groups.io at some point.

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Darn!

I just now stumbled onto that subject in the group.io updates forum, if I understood right it is posted by Mark.

Maybe someone can tell me it ain’t so?
(I have a major group I was Procrastinating transferring from yahoo groups!)

what happened???

.....
I suppose I could just create a new identical group of the same ?members at groups.io....and ?manually add all my old members, or have them join. Right??
if so, I guess the biggest difference, aside from having the manual work about adding the members, is that the ?archives would not be transferred over? Rightz.

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Still totally confused.
I sent the message you recommended to the few that had the NC note.
No one has ever mentioned having to confirm.
I verified that their address was valid from another source that is verifiable.
No one has ever sent a message to me saying they do not get messages.
Confused
-- Richard

Is there any way that we can restrict members from exporting a database that has been set up by a moderator / owner ?
If not can this be put on a Wish List ?

Thank you,
Maria

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 05:10 PM, Kenny Williams wrote:

As the new members requested membership, I manually approved them, but a few are now showing "NC" (not confirmed) on the members list. What, exactly, does that mean...

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

These people won't receive any groups.io email, nor will they be able to post, until they respond to a groups.io messages to demonstrate that they own the registered email address and confirm that they want to receive group emails there.?

...and what should I do, if anything, to correct this?

If you want, you can re-send the confirmation email by opening each of their user records in turn and clicking the corresponding button at the bottom of the page. See /g/GroupManagersForum/files/Confirmation%20email%20example.pdf

At the moment, I am leaving these few members on a moderated status.

That's probably not necessary...they can't post anyway until they remedy the situation.

Bruce

For background, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List

You can go to the member's account in Admin, Members. Click on the member's name or email address.
Scroll down and ask Groups.io to send a confirmation email to prompt the person to reply.
- Click send confirmation email.

Frances
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I'm new at this group owner/moderator business. I recently became the owner of two small groups here on groups.io because no one else wanted the task of transferring them from yahoo, and I didn't want the information to be lost. This was done manually using "free" groups that I created. As the new members requested membership, I manually approved them, but a few are now showing "NC" (not confirmed) on the members list. What, exactly, does that mean and what should I do, if anything, to correct this? At the moment, I am leaving these few members on a moderated status.

Thank you for any advice,

Kenny Williams, group owner
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MTA (mail transfer agent) is the technical name for an email program, for example, Eudora or Thunderbird. Outlook is an MTA but some people would argue that it doesn't meet the definition of a "good MTA" as mentioned by J Erskine, primarily because of its divergence from standards. The web-based services (AOL. Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail/Live/Outlook) also qualify as MTAs.

One piece of the discussion here revolves around the fact that the user who is using his MTA may have up to four options:

1. Reply to group (placed in the footer by Groups.io)
2. Reply to sender (private message, placed in the footer by Groups.io)
3. Reply (an option in the mailer, usually treated as Reply to Sender, and generally quotes the current message)
4. Reply All (an option in the mailer, usually sending to everyone in the To: and Cc: fields, and generally quotes the current message)

Confusion exists for the novice user who responds via email, using the MTA he's familiar with. Suppose he wants to send a private message to the sender. In Yahoo, the display name appears to be the sending individual, although the actual email address is that of the group. So the user selects his customary option (3), the MTA's Reply, and sends to the group instead of the individual--with quoted text which is frowned upon in some groups.

Now suppose the user wants to reply to the entire group. He may select his customary option (4), the MTA's Reply All. Since there are no Cc:s in a Yahoo group message, it has exactly the same function as option (3) and replies to the entire group. This time it's what the user desired--but again with quoted text.

I never even attempted to train the users of our Yahoo group. I'm not sure it would have worked.

Larry

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 03:11 PM, David Stodolsky wrote:

I discovered that an update to the text on the home page of the group was not reflected in the Invite Message.

Nothing in the home page Description field is mirrored in the invitation.?

Click on Admin>Settings, followed by the Member Notices button at the top of the resulting page. Create a member notice of type Invite and save. See also?/static/help#membernotices?and?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices

To be of further assistance you will have to tell us exactly what you updated and what your expectations were with respect to how that would appear in an invitation.

Regards,
Bruce

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:27 AM, Laurence Marks wrote:

Beta test continues. Each version I've seen is better than the previous one.

And yet, 23 hours earlier...

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Wilson Logan wrote:

I have just finished loading a 3878 message group without incident and that concludes the beta test phase for PGO-2-GIO.

These are, of course, mutually inconsistent; and I guess we can assume a last-minute glitch was discovered.?

Bruce

I discovered that an update to the text on the home page of the group was not reflected in the Invite Message.
Is there some 'refresh' command?

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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 01:46 PM, David Grimm wrote:

Nothing has changed since I received both messages yesterday about a different member. And I have received other posts to the group, so I definitely am still receiving 'All posts as individual emails.' Any ideas? It ain't earth-shattering, but it has me curious.

David -- Go to?/account?page=bounces?and see if it got bounced. Or just sit tight, and it might show up eventually. Comcast is notorious for throttling/delaying messages for no apparent reason.

Bruce

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:46 PM, David Grimm wrote:

I definitely am still receiving 'All posts as individual emails.' Any ideas?

Have you checked your own email delivery history?? Some email providers have a (bad) habit of limiting delivery at random times.

Duane
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Update: New member was approved at 12:36.
New member message time-stamped 13:12:55
Message received via Comcast 13:47

Still curious why it took so long just to send out the message. I understand that the second delay is on Comcast.

Dave

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 07:08 PM, <andyt650@...> wrote:

When I am done with the Perl script, will the original time stamp and posting
number and order be preserved?

Posting number is not preserved. Order is (within the import).

Original time stamp by default is inserted into beginning of message body. There is no way (without Mark's intervention) to make imported messages to appear at original time, except you can ask Mark to import messages.zip for $220 per group.

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I'm owner of a group. This morning, I received a 'Membership approval needed' message. When I went to approve it, it had already been approved by a moderator. An hour later, I still haven't received a 'New Member joined your group' message. Nothing has changed since I received both messages yesterday about a different member. And I have received other posts to the group, so I definitely am still receiving 'All posts as individual emails.' Any ideas? It ain't earth-shattering, but it has me curious.

Dave