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Re: Owner really messed up and got dropped #changeemail

 

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If you wish ?to help with this, email [email protected]

We can give advice but we are just users, like you.

Frances

On Dec 10 19, at 11:50 AM, D&J Edgar <djedgar1970@...> wrote:

I think my group is in limbo now since the owner has no control, unless someone at??can fix the error. ? Just fix the .net to .com on my address or confirm my error email address so I can sign in.



Re: Owner really messed up and got dropped #changeemail

 

I already have a second account (but not as an owner). I therefore can go in and see the group site and see myself as an owner. However my owner listing has a NC (Not Confirmed) by it since the address has the wrong domain and therefore I never could have received or have seen the confirmation email. I also cannot sign in with the error email account since it I get the message that email is not verified and thus cannot get in and change it or make my second account an owner.

I think my group is in limbo now since the owner has no control, unless someone at Groups.io can fix the error. Just fix the .net to .com on my address or confirm my error email address so I can sign in. I should have never done the address change when I was so tired. What a mess. Always though of having a second owner but never got to it.

Worse yet, there is no way I can see to even delete the group and start over or even start a new group since the name is already taken. Have 68 subscribers so while not convenient, certainly could.

David

On Dec 10, 2019, at 8:02 AM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:

On Dec 10, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Sandi D. <sandi.asgtechie@...> wrote:

As a future safeguard, if you are the owner, it may behoove you to create an email alias for yourself and give that alias owner privileges.
Just a point. Groups.io allows you to create an email alias for your account. You can email from that account to your group. You can¡¯t log into your account from the alias.

So create another account for yourself with a different email address as a backup.

Frances


Re: Embedding the signup form in wordpress.com?

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 01:17 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:
anyone here, who codes, could we discuss about taking that code in the promote tab and making it wordpress.com friendly?
IANAL but that idea might be in contravention of Terms of Service / Intellectual Property Rights / Service Content, Software and Trademarks.

It might be better to check with Mark first.

Chris


Re: change front page image

 

In Admin, Settings, Cover Photo button.

See #4, 3) of this wiki page for a few details.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation
There also has been recent discussion here about adding colour banners on each side of a square image.

Frances

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Re: change front page image

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 03:58 PM, <wscotstrut@...> wrote:
I can't find in the help how to change the image on the front page
Click on Settings tab at the LHS of your web UI; close to the top of the page (a little bit left of centre) there will be a blue tab called Settings; two tabs to the right of it is a grey tab called Cover Photo; click on it. What follows should be more or less obvious. :)

Chris


Re: Owner really messed up and got dropped #changeemail

 

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On Dec 10, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Sandi D. <sandi.asgtechie@...> wrote:

As a future safeguard, if you are the owner, it may behoove you to create an email alias for yourself and give that alias owner privileges.
Just a point. Groups.io allows you to create an email alias for your account. You can email from that account to your group. You can¡¯t log into your account from the alias.

So create another account for yourself with a different email address as a backup.

Frances


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Re: Owner really messed up and got dropped #changeemail

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 03:17 PM, Sandi D. wrote:
it may behoove you to create an email alias for yourself and give that alias owner privileges.
Not sure about that. An email alias is just a different address from which a member can post to a group; it isn't a second membership as such.

Now setting up a second membership... that's fine!

Chris


change front page image

 

New user here - I can't find in the help how to chnage the image on the front page - id like to chnage iot to an appropriate photo and or logo for our group.

Any help appreciated,
Thanks
Ian


Re: Owner really messed up and got dropped #changeemail

Sandi D.
 

I sense your frustration. Email Support with screen shots. Theoretically it should not be possible for the email address change to go through under a non valid email address.?

As a future safeguard, if you are the owner, it may behoove you to create an email alias for yourself and give that alias owner privileges.?

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Sandi Dickenson
Moderator of ASG Volunteers Group


Re: LInk Forum Membership with Organization Membership #membership #api #website #subscription

Sandi D.
 

Hi Gary,?

I joined GIO to create my own groups just over a year ago when I deleted my Yahoo! and FB groups. Additionally, I am the? Tech Liaison volunteer at the National level. ASG is a 501c with an educational and community service mission.

I was able to encourage volunteers at the national level to create a new group on IO and jump ship with YG. We did that in October just before things went crazy. I have learned a ton more about GIO functions reading all the posts from others.?

I am the IT Admin for the local ASG chapter and our needs are nearly identical to yours.?I set up our MX records on GSuite and that is where I set their initial password. It used to be called the "Educational" version but that version was removed and converted to the regular business version a couple of years ago.

I have been thinking along the lines of your post today, wondering about bringing my domain account users into GIO and weighing the pros and cons.?I control their domain email accounts completely which means I am in control of the email addresses that would join a created GIO group for them. If they do not renew their membership, then I would suspend their domain account and I can delete that same domain email address from my GIO group. [I don't think GIO has a "hold/suspend" feature at the group level.]?

The above would seem to meet your criteria for #2 & 3.?

[Note that their domain address would not keep them from web accessing other groups they joined on GIO but it would block them from sending or receiving emails to those groups and require them change their GIO account email address if they wanted to communicate over email in their other GIO groups.]

I would choose to set up 2 groups. One Main Group consisting of all local chapter Board Appointed Volunteers (18-23) and a Subgroup consisting of the Chapter's Board of Directors (5).?

One of the pros of doing so is that I am the only person in my chapter who understands the IT Admin-Domain side of things and it would be great to have some help in certain tasks. It's not difficult to learn the management side of GIO. I am certain I can leave GIO management to a Board Member and get the GSuite managed Google Group off my plate.

Additional Background Information:
I can suspend their domain account in GSuite with a button click so they can't access it and that serves to remind them to renew their membership. After renewal, I click the restore button so they are back in business. I can add a set forward to their account so they never have to log into the domain email address. In fact, none choose to do so, they all operate from their personal email accounts instead of their domain account.?

I currently use the domain Google Groups feature in GSuite. I can add and remove them directly. I enabled a feature that lets me add and remove their non domain email addresses so that they can post from anywhere and even text into it. I set the entire group on "individual email" so every participant receives all emails and attachments with any post. I have been exceptionally pleased with the spam feature over the past 6 years.?

Perhaps a combination of MX domain records and GIO will give you the control you are seeking. If not, GSuite Google Groups would be meet your needs entirely, but you would need to create 2 separate groups and keep your public group on IO. ?

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Sandi Dickenson
Moderator of ASG Volunteers Group


Re: Owner really messed up and got dropped #changeemail

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 08:47 AM, John Pearce wrote:
I was able to set myself (a moderator) to an owner at the end of November.? Probably a bug but it worked.
That would be because you were given Set Moderator Privileges permission.? There's a warning, in red, about giving moderators that permission on the Wiki page, /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Promotion%2C-Status-or-Permissions-Change-to-Moderator-or-Owner

Duane
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Re: An announcement from PG Offline - Y! group transfer extension!?

 


Great.
PGO needs to be on a self sustaining business model. Nothing is free in life.
We need to support all good efforts at reasonable price and the people who work on them need money to for food and shelter.

MKR


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 7:46 AM Andy W <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Hi,

I just received this from PG Offline. Make of it what you will.

Hi All,


I have it on good authority that Verizon have extended the Yahoo Groups deadline to January 31st.

Wait for an official announcement from Yahoo before slacking off your downloading!

Also I hear that?PG Offline has been UN-blocked for all USA-based IP ranges.

Which is nice!

The PGO-2-GIO program is in development hell but I expect us to break through in the next couple of days.

Whither PGO when Verizon finally pulls the plug?

Plans are afoot to transition PGO to a new data source and a new revenue model.

PGO's Achilles heel has always been its perpetual licence.??

Perpetual licences are OK for Paint programs but not for an app that depends on a 3rd party data source that could change at any time.?

Therefore, moving forward, the new PGO will transition to multiple data sources starting with Groups.io and Facebook groups (maybe also Google groups & phpBB) and it will move to a subscription model.

I'm thinking.. $24.95 initial with $10 a year thereafter?? With no payment needed for anyone who registered within the last 12 months.

If you didn't register in the last 12 months but do have PGO then to move to the new PGO will be $10.?

You can stay with the old PGO.? It'll still read, sort & search your existing downloaded YG data.

And you can swap data with other PGO users using the Export & Import functions.

Moving to the new PGO is not mandatory.

Cheers,

Wilson.


Regards,
Andy


Re: Owner really messed up and got dropped #changeemail

John Pearce
 

If you have a moderator in the group maybe they can help.? They have an amazing amount of ability at times.? I was able to set myself (a moderator) to an owner at the end of November.? Probably a bug but it worked.? Don't know if it still will.? It's always good to have 2 owners.


Re: Export database with images

 

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM, Charles Roberts wrote:
I need something for the casual user.
There have been some discussions over the last 3 years about having a Print button for databases on the beta group.? You could join one of those to add your support or additions.? A few that I found:


(most recent)

Duane
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An announcement from PG Offline - Y! group transfer extension!?

 

Hi,

I just received this from PG Offline. Make of it what you will.

Hi All,


I have it on good authority that Verizon have extended the Yahoo Groups deadline to January 31st.

Wait for an official announcement from Yahoo before slacking off your downloading!

Also I hear that?PG Offline has been UN-blocked for all USA-based IP ranges.

Which is nice!

The PGO-2-GIO program is in development hell but I expect us to break through in the next couple of days.

Whither PGO when Verizon finally pulls the plug?

Plans are afoot to transition PGO to a new data source and a new revenue model.

PGO's Achilles heel has always been its perpetual licence.??

Perpetual licences are OK for Paint programs but not for an app that depends on a 3rd party data source that could change at any time.?

Therefore, moving forward, the new PGO will transition to multiple data sources starting with Groups.io and Facebook groups (maybe also Google groups & phpBB) and it will move to a subscription model.

I'm thinking.. $24.95 initial with $10 a year thereafter?? With no payment needed for anyone who registered within the last 12 months.

If you didn't register in the last 12 months but do have PGO then to move to the new PGO will be $10.?

You can stay with the old PGO.? It'll still read, sort & search your existing downloaded YG data.

And you can swap data with other PGO users using the Export & Import functions.

Moving to the new PGO is not mandatory.

Cheers,

Wilson.


Regards,
Andy


Re: Embedding the signup form in wordpress.com?

 

That HTML code in the promote tab does not work with wordpress.com. There is something in that code that wordpress.com does not allow, because when I paste it in their HTML editor and save, and go to the page, the form does not show up at all. anyone here, who codes, could we discuss about taking that code in the promote tab and making it wordpress.com friendly? I'm willing to pay for this job.


Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 02:38 AM, Cal wrote:
I thought you said there was an option to use Mark's YahooMessagesApplication in Chrome, yes?
To download messages from Yahoo, yes. But you already have a download.

Recall that you asked me how Mark downloaded the messages from Yahoo group, if he wasn't using the Privacy Dashboard. I responded by telling you about that script.

Bruce


Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups

 

I have the information about Lena's script.
I thought you said there was an option to use Mark's YahooMessagesApplication in Chrome, yes?

On 12/10/19 2:28 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Cal -- Um, I think your expectations are more than a little unrealistic. But you can want what you want to want.

Here are your free options:

-- Upload the messages to your files area, converted to plain text or not, or...
-- Figure out how to use Lena's Perl script.

I already told you how to do these things in message #25789 </g/GroupManagersForum/message/25789>. Not going down that road again.

You can contact Mark at [email protected], <mailto:[email protected],>?but I can guarantee that he won't upload your mbox files for nothing. If he was to do that, he'd have to do it for everybody; and I'm sure he has other fish to fry.

Bruce


Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups

 

Cal -- Um, I think your expectations are more than a little unrealistic. But you can want what you want to want.

Here are your free options:

-- Upload the messages to your files area, converted to plain text or not, or...
-- Figure out how to use Lena's Perl script.

I already told you how to do these things in message #25789. Not going down that road again.

You can contact Mark at [email protected],?but I can guarantee that he won't upload your mbox files for nothing. If he was to do that, he'd have to do it for everybody; and I'm sure he has other fish to fry.

Bruce


Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups

 

(I'm responding to both Frances' and Bruce's replies herein.)

I can't spend any money on this, unless Mark wants to do all the small groups for one price.? And I already spent hours getting this done in time for the Dec 5 deadline, so I don't have much more time, though I might have a couple of volunteers.

These are about 8-10 small groups, most with only a handful of files (some with no files), most with a few hundred messages (or less).

As I said - no Windows, please.? I'm looking for free solutions that don't involve anything related to Windows.? This is a one-shot deal and I'm going to learn how to use Windows, which does a number of fundamental things counter-intuitively to my 20 years of "muscle memory built on the Mac.? Sorry, just consider it a limitation of mine.

Bruce, how would I contact Mark to see if he'd I might get him to upload the mbox files?

On 12/9/19 4:57 PM, Frances wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:

I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.
Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the
message date work properly?

My programmer husband has used a Windows emulator on his Mac. But you have to get the emulator plus buy Windows.
He suggests you look at Wineskin - free open source.
or
Crossover - costs about $60 but it won't run all applications.
It is based on Wineskin but is easier to use.

He says that if you have more money than time, your best bet is the emulator.
On 12/9/19 5:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:

I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.

If you don't want to run an emulator, then PG Offline is off the table.

Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the
message date work properly?

Presumably. If you contact Mark and get him to upload your mbox files for you, please report back on how things went and what the price point is.

Bruce