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Re: Delete invite after it's been accepted

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 08:58 AM, John Pearce wrote:
Can I now delete them to keep that list clean or will that have some additional consequences that would affect those users, such as remove them from the group for example.
John -- You can delete the Accepted invitations with impunity. I believe that deleting ones still in Sent status withdraws the invite.

Bruce


Re: mbox upload - dates are missing #mbox #ioimportpl

Sandi D.
 

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 04:01 PM, Sugar Lopez wrote:
How do open these files?
I use?, on my Mac. It's a mail Software program also available for Windows.?If you want a program to store them and be able to search for them and email them to others, consider Postbox.?It might be overkill for your needs.?


I requested an archive download in a Gmail account I wanted to close. It came to me in mbox file. I opened Postbox and created a new Folder. Then went to File -->Import and selected the FOLDER containing all the mbox files. They were all imported into the new Postbox folder and positioned under their appropriate folders and subfolders.

Postbox has extensive search functions that work well in tracking down archived messages. It can search in specific folders or across all my accounts.?I can open and forward messages to others. I can move individual files across IMAP and POP accounts and sync them online in those active accounts if I choose.

Postbox preserved all the images and attachments to each message and I can download the messages and their attachments to my computer in a readable format.?

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Sandi Dickenson
Moderator of ASG Volunteers Group


Re: Upload ownership if that person leaves?

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 03:18 AM, Mike Strange wrote:
So that could be a way of being able to reassign ownership of files which currently cannot be achieved in a manual transfer by the group owner. Create a dummy temporary account, uploads their group's files using the dummy, close the subscription of the dummy and assigns file ownership as the true owners subscribe.
Mike -- I'm kinda struggling to understand what groups.io behavior you're trying to work around.

Photos can be reassigned to any current subscriber at any time. You don't need a dummy account to do that.

Files ownership cannot be reassigned...they have to be uploaded by the person who you want to "own" them.

If you want to upload files or photos but not have ANY name associated with them, then creating a dummy account would indeed be a way to achieve that objective. You would have to delete that subscription after the upload to make the ownership disappear.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Delete invite after it's been accepted

John Pearce
 

99% of our users were brought over by the transfer from yahoo groups.? We had a few that because of problems with their email bouncing during the time the transfer was taking place.? So I sent invitations to a few people rather than direct adds.? They have accepted a week or more ago and are participating normally.? When I look at the invitations screen they show up as accepted.? Can I now delete them to keep that list clean or will that have some additional consequences that would affect those users, such as remove them from the group for example.


Re: mbox upload - dates are missing #mbox #ioimportpl

 

Dear Lena,

so many thanks to you for having done this (and in not more than some hours - at 8 in the evening I was talking on the phone with Andrea about this problem, when I went to my notebook in the morning changes were ready!)

It is wonderful! Now our members have same information as in original message! (We could not make transfer, because our owner had died and so your program is like heaven-sent for us).

Kind regards
Ingrid

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Locked Re: Bug? Spontaneous Drafts???

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 08:56 AM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:
?I read? the entire thread. you are just adding confusion by revisiting it.
Any chance that you can include selective quotes above your posts? In some cases it is totally unclear about what (and who) you are replying to, and a bit of careful selective quoting should eliminate that.

Chris


Locked Re: Bug? Spontaneous Drafts???

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 02:56 AM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:
?I read? the entire thread. you are just adding confusion by revisiting it.
The post from Mark says that using View/Reply in the digest will go to the site and open a Reply.? I don't see anything confusing about that.? If you're not typing anything, including a signature, then saving a draft does seem to be a bug.

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Re: API Access #api

 

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 07:14 AM, Jon Matcho wrote:
I can't seem to find the link to see the list of API endpoints that exist.
The API documentation is at /api? It's changing quite a bit right now because of the app development.? There's also a group for it at

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Re: Using smaller screen size iPads in portrait mode

Sandi D.
 

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 02:21 PM, Sandi D. wrote:
It will be interesting to see if that active button option of Reply to Sender now "sticks" regardless of mode like the formating icons did.?
It does!
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API Access #api

 

I can't seem to find the link to see the list of API endpoints that exist.? I just want to take a look at this point.? I am on the paid plan.

Thanks!
Jon


Locked Re: Bug? Spontaneous Drafts???

 

Bruce, Gmail does this, at least mine does. ?I have a bunch of blank emails in drafts. And it¡¯s happened to me a few times here. ?If you¡¯re talking about digests, I haven¡¯t a clue, but for posting from the group- and in Gmail- it doesn¡¯t seem to be that big a deal. ?I just delete them when I get around to it.?


I¡¯ve had the same experience you have, leaving a half finished email and being glad it was saved when I realized what I¡¯d done.

Terri


Re: my yahoo group was transferred, but nothing seems to be happening. What am I missing #access

 

Probably simple human factors rather than anything technical. Our group went quiet for a few days post-transfer. We spent a lot of time pre transfer trying to keep folk aware of what was happening, but it was a little odd.

As well as Jeremy's comments on the Y! side, try sending a special notice to the group (this overrides most email subscription settings) asking them to simply reply to that one message. And/or contact your normally most active members with a direct message askibg then to confirm.

You should also be checking the group activity, and in particular the email delivery history. Y! used to get away with a lot of stuff simply by being an 800lb gorilla, GIO are at pains to play by the rules for email which can have consequences for some email addresses.?

Also, we've found that quite a few members changed their email addresses over the years on Y! without necessarily removing the old addresses, or rejoined the group with a new id 'cos they forgot the old one etc., all of which have been carried over to GIO. Looking at the email delivery history, and members with bouncing email can be quite enlightening...

Derek

On Sat, 7 Dec 2019, 09:23 Jeremy Harrison via Groups.Io, <jeremygharrison=[email protected]> wrote:
My first thought is, is your Yahoo group still active - are there still posts being made to it? I would suggest you send a message to it (the Yahoo group) saying that it has been transferred to Gio, and posts should now be made there (give new group details); and enforce this by setting the Yahoo group to moderated - you can than reject all or most posts, with an appropriate message.


Re: Did all messages migrate from Yahoo? #migration #messages #yahoo

 

Droxine,

You've probably seen many of the references to PG offline. From your comments I think you have a use case beyond just backing up the Y! group (search etc), but in any case; PGO (subject to Yahoo not melting) would give you a second copy of your group, and if both GIO and the PGO download report the same messages then you can be fairly certain you're getting everything Y! is prepared to let you have. Worth a $25?punt, to be honest.

As mentioned, Y! have not had a stellar record over the years, it is quite possible they've lost records here and there. Mark & co. can only work with what they're given, after all, so if the transfer glitched or Y! have lost records, game over.

Y! themselves give you an option to download all if your group data, but from reports here it's a bit hit and miss, takes some time to be available and it's not clear if it'll still be possible after the 14th, but you could at least make the request.

Derek

On Sat, 7 Dec 2019, 08:18 Gerald Boutin, <groupsio@...> wrote:
Droxine,

At the end of the Easy Group Transfer process, you should receive a summary email that includes a list of items that were not able to be transferred. Did it say anything about how many messages could not be transferred?

There was another report recently that had a substantial discrepancy between messages on the Yahoo group and messages that were seen on GIO. That turned out to be an error in reading the number of messages on GIO. The user was looking? at the number of Topics instead of the number of messages.

When I transferred a group a while back, I also noticed a discrepancy in the number of messages, but there was no indication of missing messages in the summary email. I went back and started comparing the Yahoo and GIO messages to see what had happened. It didn't take me long to realize that there were quite a few messages that had been deleted over time and that the highest message number on Yahoo was not a representative count of the actual total number of messages.

It may be worth your time to take a couple months and do an actual comparison to see if there really are missing messages, or if the "deleted" messages likely make up the discrepancy in numbering.

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Gerald


Re: my yahoo group was transferred, but nothing seems to be happening. What am I missing #access

 

My first thought is, is your Yahoo group still active - are there still posts being made to it? I would suggest you send a message to it (the Yahoo group) saying that it has been transferred to Gio, and posts should now be made there (give new group details); and enforce this by setting the Yahoo group to moderated - you can than reject all or most posts, with an appropriate message.


Locked Re: Bug? Spontaneous Drafts???

 


?I read? the entire thread. you are just adding confusion by revisiting it.


On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:18 PM, Duane wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 08:42 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:
I sent a message to support. It is a bug not a feature.
Apparently you didn't bother reading the link that Shal posted earlier.? It is an asked for feature:
"Alas, it was suggested as a feature, and implemented as such. So it isn't seen (by the developer) as a bug to be fixed.
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Re: Upload ownership if that person leaves?

 

Thank you Bruce. So that could be a way of being able to reassign ownership of files which currently cannot be achieved in a manual transfer by the group owner. Create a dummy temporary account, uploads their group's files using the dummy, close the subscription of the dummy and assigns file ownership as the true owners subscribe.

Mike


Re: Did all messages migrate from Yahoo? #migration #messages #yahoo

Gerald Boutin
 

Droxine,

At the end of the Easy Group Transfer process, you should receive a summary email that includes a list of items that were not able to be transferred. Did it say anything about how many messages could not be transferred?

There was another report recently that had a substantial discrepancy between messages on the Yahoo group and messages that were seen on GIO. That turned out to be an error in reading the number of messages on GIO. The user was looking? at the number of Topics instead of the number of messages.

When I transferred a group a while back, I also noticed a discrepancy in the number of messages, but there was no indication of missing messages in the summary email. I went back and started comparing the Yahoo and GIO messages to see what had happened. It didn't take me long to realize that there were quite a few messages that had been deleted over time and that the highest message number on Yahoo was not a representative count of the actual total number of messages.

It may be worth your time to take a couple months and do an actual comparison to see if there really are missing messages, or if the "deleted" messages likely make up the discrepancy in numbering.

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Gerald


Locked Re: Bug? Spontaneous Drafts???

 

RFI-EMI-GUY,

On Dec 6, 2019, at 9:32 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY <rhyolite@...> wrote:

Nope, not so. I have no signature and my draft folders are filling up.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 12:02 PM, Lena wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 05:57 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:

My test consisted of clicking on Reply in the browser and then closing off the
browser
a draft is saved even if nothing is typed.
Because you have a signature.
Without signature empty draft isn't saved.
A Reply (with or without a signature) is always saved as a Draft, if it is not Discarded.



When I click on "View/Reply Online" button in an Groups.io group email message, it only takes me to the website to view that message.

At the website viewing that message, there are several options, including:
Reply
Like
More
View all Messages in this Topic
each of these option require at least one additional click.

Only if I click on Reply, is a form opened to compose a reply,
under that form are three buttons (green, red, and, white) :
Reply to Group
Discard
Private (prefixes subject with the word Private, and changes the Reply to button from Group to Sender and from green to blue).

A Draft is saved, if (and only if) I have clicked on Reply (whether I type anything or not) AND fail to click on Discard (for whatever reason).
This is how it is meant to function AND fits the behavior you describe...


Did all messages migrate from Yahoo? #migration #messages #yahoo

 

Hello all,

Newbie here.? Just transferred my group from Yahoo.? Thanks Mark and everyone involved for all your hard work at this stressful time!? So, as Mark is swamped at the mo, he advised me to put my question/s to you kind folks.? I didn't find anything on help or wiki.??

Following the transfer, Mark advised that he had trouble migrating the links due to a yahoo glitch, and I'm having to do those manually.? I went to the group's new home here to see if the messages had all transferred (if the number of messages were about the same), and discovered that the number of my last (most recent) post/message in the new/io group is , whereas, in the old (yahoo) group it is labeled #8537. I might expect a small discrepancy, if I had to delete a message or two (in yahoo group) due to human error here and?
there, (spammers didn't really get in because it was a private group, mostly by invitation).? So, maybe a handful of times at most I remember deleting a message to replace or correct it. (Hated having to do that because it messed up the number continuity!|? But 766 messages is a notable discrepancy.? When I asked if this indicated that not all messages were successfully migrated Mark replied:
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"Due to the high volume of support requests right now (aka we're a bit overwhelmed!), we're unfortunately unable to provide a specific answer to your question.

That said, I will say that we see a lot of duplicate emails in the Yahoo Group archives, due to past bugs in their system (and not mistakes from users). We do not import duplicates, so often times the number of messages we import will be lower. That does not mean that we missed any messages."

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So, I guess I'm asking for thoughts and if anyone here can relate or confirm anything. It sounds like he's supplying a plausible explanation but that there is no way to definitively tell whether all msgs were copied. Is this "apparent volume loss" a normal percentage to expect when migrating from Yahoo?? I want to believe this explanation!? But the thing is, I pretty much lived on that group (it was like a full time job), and paid attention to everything, even the message numbers.? I think I would have noticed if that volume of messages (or message numbers) were being duplicated because of a glitch.? But maybe somehow I didn't notice(??) ?

It is important to me to have a complete, searchable database particularly of my contributions (which accounts for most of the material), so I can gather together material for a book. ?

Also, is there an easy way to establish whether all messages were transferred other than random checks or some kind of exhaustive side by side comparison (days are numbered, remember)?

Thanks in advance for any ideas,

Droxine


Re: download entire directory

 

Hi all, It's a good idea to say FROM WHERE?? are you talking about trying to download "an entire directory of files" from yahoo group?? from groups.io group??

and then, say "what settings are you talking about".?

We all tend to assume everyone knows exactly what we're wondering about, but it helps to say it!? thanks, Gesine