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I am sorry to bother you, but we followed the procedure exactly. I am owner of both the Yahoo and groups.io groups.

The process was started almost TWO MONTHS AGO. We have never received a response from the [email protected] email in the Yahoo group, thru email, or anywhere else.

Yes, I see the "outage" message at /yahootransfer. What the hell does that mean?

It is possible to download Yahoo group messages as a series of text files. How are they uploaded to groups.io as part of the message database? I already managed to download the FILES section of the Yahoo group and tried to upload it to groups.io--it appears to start the process, but NEVER FINISHES. It just hangs.

Please respond to my email synth@... if possible. Thank you for your attention.

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 01:48 PM, Patti Woodbury wrote:

If a topic is locked and a member uses the same subject line as a “new topic” does it start a new thread with the same subject line or is the same subject line rejected and the poster notified?

Patti -- That depends. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Avoiding-threading-topics---threading-algorithm?for details.

Summarizing:?
-- If an incoming EMAIL runs the subject line threading gauntlet described in the wiki page above, such that it would ordinarily be appended to an existing topic, then it runs up against the topic lock, and a rejection notice is sent.
-- If a subscriber is reading a locked topic online, the Reply button is disabled, such that he cannot post to the topic.
-- If the subscriber instead clicks on the "New Topic" button online, then it's NOT rejected, but is instead treated as a new topic, even if the subject lines match.

On a group I belong to, and another where I moderate, and topics are obviously not “locked”, when someone posts a subject line of “new member” or another commonly posted subject line, it often gets folded into really, really old threads which have a lot of posts to plow through (some containing outdated information). On my own groups I specify lock times to avoid this.

This kind of thing can happen, but in theory, if a given subject line has 30 consecutive days of inactivity, a new topic should be opened regardless of the message's origin, and that message will not end up being rejected by the previously-existing lock. More details at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/18863

I hope that made sense (it barely makes sense to ME).

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:26 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

So other than some possible duplication there's nothing to worry about it would seem.

If someone added to the subgroup is already a member of the main group under the same email adress, they won't get a duplicate account in main, they'll just be added to the subgroup.

Duane
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So other than some possible duplication there's nothing to worry about it would seem.

Thanks.

I don't know if anyone has thought of this but this site is a way for managers to learn all the editing and message mgte stuff. I frequently stop in the middle of doing something and explore all the ways to do something. Good OJT.

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:06 PM, Bob Shettler wrote:

For 1. there is no facility that I can see that allows us to do that upload from the Emailed Photos folder.??

No, they'd have to be uploaded directly, not sent as an attachment.

For 2. that is a shame and there must be a way around this. We are new to this, but we are forced to pay for groups.io because we are or will be just above the 1gb limit. That limit is exceeded almost completely by our photographs. It is really hard to justify that expense when the photos are displayed at such poor quality.?

You've found the easiest way that I know of, selecting download to get actual size.? Because so many different screen sizes are used, from phones to 42", Mark decided to show maximum size for each screen.? Another option is to shrink your browser window before viewing photos to make them smaller using the responsive technology of the site.

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 03:06 PM, Bob Shettler wrote:

Thanks Bruce, but.......

For 1. there is no facility that I can see that allows us to do that upload from the Emailed Photos folder.??

Bob -- Correct. You will have to first download the photo from Emailed Photos and re-upload it to an album.

For 2. that is a shame and there must be a way around this.

Not that I am aware of. But now I'm wondering if I really understand the problem.

Is the issue with a low-resolution image displaying pixelation on your high-resolution desktop screen? If so, please consider what might happen to those viewing a larger image with a smartphone if your proposal was to be implemented.

We are new to this, but we are forced to pay for groups.io because we are or will be just above the 1gb limit. That limit is exceeded almost completely by our photographs. It is really hard to justify that expense when the photos are displayed at such poor quality.?

GMF is a user-to-user help group...we have no more "powers" within groups.io than you do. Actual feature requests should be posted to?.?

Good luck,
Bruce

Thanks Bruce, but.......

For 1. there is no facility that I can see that allows us to do that upload from the Emailed Photos folder.??

For 2. that is a shame and there must be a way around this. We are new to this, but we are forced to pay for groups.io because we are or will be just above the 1gb limit. That limit is exceeded almost completely by our photographs. It is really hard to justify that expense when the photos are displayed at such poor quality.?

Bob

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:58 PM, Su wrote:

Answer: YES. (So Bruce was correct.) This behavior makes sense for events that repeat say weekly or monthly, but for a 4-day event, it really doesn't. I guess I could work around it by making two separate events - one for the first day, with a reminder, and another for the remaining days, with no reminder. A bit clunky but still doable.

Su -- That would certainly work. Consider also setting up a single, all-day event that spans multiple days (as opposed to a recurring event). This will give you a single reminder notification for the first day as desired, with the downside that the start/end times for each day will not appear on the calendar.

Bruce

I hope that request does get implemented!

Reporting back on another part of my original questions.

2. If I set a reminder for the event, will it be sent before each day? (I ended up having to create an event that repeats for the 4 days. With a reminder say 5 days before the event, will it send one 5 days before the first day, then 5 days before the second day, and so forth?)

Answer: YES. (So Bruce was correct.) This behavior makes sense for events that repeat say weekly or monthly, but for a 4-day event, it really doesn't. I guess I could work around it by making two separate events - one for the first day, with a reminder, and another for the remaining days, with no reminder. A bit clunky but still doable.

Su

Thanks, Frances.? I tried off and on all morning to open messages on various groups with no luck, it is a good outage.? I got to everything, I just couldn't open anything.? I hope they haven't deleted archives.? and I hope they get it fixed.? Someone on yahoo gmf said he thought they were trying to institute the 10/28 changes and couldn't figure out how to do it, so they had it all messed up.

Terri

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:49 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

Do persons have to be members of the groups.io main group before their Yahoo group membership can be transferred from the Yahoo group into the groups.io sub-group?

If you're transferring a YG to a subgroup, anyone that's not already a member of the main group will be added as they're transferred, so they'd be a member of main and subgroup.

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 02:29 PM, Bob Shettler wrote:

1. when including a photo with an email, the photos all get loaded into an album called Emailed Photos. Once they are in there, they cannot be edited or moved or anything. For example if you include a photo of a Northern Goshawk in your email but you load the image from your Iphone and the image is labelled Jpeg844 you cannot edit the photo to put a meaningful label of Northern Goshawk. This can't be right. Am I missing something here?

No, you aren't missing anything. The Emailed Photos folder provides only a convenient way to view (and delete) photo attachments, analogous to the Photostream in Yahoo Groups. To manipulate photos in the manner you suggest, they must be uploaded to an actual album.

2. All photos in the albums seem to be displayed by filling the screen to the maximum limit. This results in a very poor image quality. You can get a better quality image by clicking Download but that extra step is terribly inefficient and seems so unnecessary. Why are the photos not displayed as stored so that when you are browsing them, you get the best image quality??

Because doing so would then cause some images to overflow a small browser window and display scroll bars.

It would be nice to have a personal account setting that you can toggle back and forth, but considering all the various screen resolutions and aspect ratios in use, it seems unlikely that there is any one way to handle this that will make everybody happy.

Bruce

I am a new owner (Manitobabirds) and have recently converted from Yahoo. I am ecstatic how well groups.io is working. It has exceeded all expectations.?

There are a few things relative to photos that are perplexing however.?

1. when including a photo with an email, the photos all get loaded into an album called Emailed Photos. Once they are in there, they cannot be edited or moved or anything. For example if you include a photo of a Northern Goshawk in your email but you load the image from your Iphone and the image is labelled Jpeg844 you cannot edit the photo to put a meaningful label of Northern Goshawk. This can't be right. Am I missing something here?

2. All photos in the albums seem to be displayed by filling the screen to the maximum limit. This results in a very poor image quality. You can get a better quality image by clicking Download but that extra step is terribly inefficient and seems so unnecessary. Why are the photos not displayed as stored so that when you are browsing them, you get the best image quality??

Bob Shettler - owner Manitobabirds?

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 01:50 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

Is creating a sub-group as simple as identifying it in the group email address but using the sub-group address?

Go to Admin>Subgroups and click the Create Subgroup button.

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 01:50 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

Is creating a sub-group as simple as identifying it in the group email address but using the sub-group address? Like

[email protected]

???? and [email protected]

??????????? [email protected]

When you create the subgroup, you name it.
So it could be [email protected]
and the next could be [email protected]

The email address is automatically generated.
In my test group, I have:
[email protected]
and
[email protected]

Frances
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 01:49 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

Do persons have to be members of the groups.io main group before their Yahoo group membership can be transferred from the Yahoo group into the groups.io sub-group?

I hope I asked this right. As:

Yahoo group?????????????????? Groups-io group???????????? Groups.io sub-group
Bill Smith???????????????????????? Bill Smith???????????????????????? Bill Smith???????????????????????????????? Would transfer correctly (though NoMail perhaps in main group)

Jim Jones??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?? Jim Jones??????????????????????????? ? ?? Would not transfer correctly

Yes, members must be transferred to the main group from YG.?

They retain their same subscription when they are transferred to Groups.io, except "no mail" is transferred to Special notices only.
I believe this is only if you have disallowed no mail on your Groups.io group.
(I do - otherwise it isn't possible to send the very occasional email to everyone in your group without sending out individual or bcc emails or some other workaround.)

All of your main group people will be viewed available for direct adding to your subgroup. Go to Admin in the subgroup, and Direct Add. Check boxes beside all names with a button "+add members".

Frances

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Is creating a sub-group as simple as identifying it in the group email address but using the sub-group address? Like

[email protected]

???? and [email protected]

??????????? [email protected]
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Or is it something else ... and I missed it?

Do persons have to be members of the groups.io main group before their Yahoo group membership can be transferred from the Yahoo group into the groups.io sub-group?

I hope I asked this right. As:

Yahoo group?????????????????? Groups-io group???????????? Groups.io sub-group
Bill Smith???????????????????????? Bill Smith???????????????????????? Bill Smith???????????????????????????????? Would transfer correctly (though NoMail perhaps in main group)

Jim Jones??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?? Jim Jones??????????????????????????? ? ?? Would not transfer correctly

Being? an owner doesn't automatically confer all privileges. Go to your membership management page in the Yahoo group, find your membership (easiest is to select moderators) and set the required permissions. As Owner, you can change your own permissions to whatever you need.

Dave Rypma