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On Nov 22, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

3. Is there any provision to attach a flyer or other image to a calendar event?
Not really. You can embed an <img> tag for a photo hosted on another site and have it show up in the Event Description, but if the photo is subsequently moved or deleted a broken link will show instead. The process is kinda weird and unreliable, see /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/31532132#16547 for details. I don't know if it would work for a PDF or any other data type. If you try it, please report back on what you find out.

Ooooh, I tried putting in an img in the description and it came out great. I was able to reference an image in the photos section.

1) Find the photo in your photos section, and right-click on the download tab (I’m in Firefox), which let’s me “copy link”
2) Strip everything off the end from the “?” that link, and you have the URL of the image.
3) Edit the calendar event, go advanced, and source code, and put in <img src=“/g/yourgroup/photo/nnnnnn/n/photoname.jpg”/>. (or whatever)

If you make a “flyer” for your event, it looks pretty good.

Gilbert

Frances,

You might want to beef it up. I just put Mark's post from Duane.

Done. I also threw references to FAQ 14 into the Transfer details page:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

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Bruce,

If you click on the "View/Reply Online" link in any message footer, it
not only takes you to the message online, but opens the editor for you
to reply. ...

I find this annoying, and made a suggestion in beta not to open the
editor unless I ask for it, but the notion never got much traction.

I agree.

Fortunately for me it is only the links in Digests that do that, so I don't get hit with it very often.

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RFI-EMI-GUY,

While visiting some groups I subscribe to, but do not manage, I found
that in one case there were 4 drafts created. I deleted them. I don't
know what action created them.

If you begin a New Topic or Reply, but then leave the page without either Sending it or Discarding it then it will be saved as a Draft.

Is it a bug???

The mechanism is supposed to ignore an empty draft. But I don't know if it ignores spaces, tabs, returns or other non-printing characters.

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:01 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:

While visiting some groups I subscribe to, but do not manage, I found that in one case there were 4 drafts created. I deleted them. I don't know what action created them. Is it a bug???

Probably not.

If you click on the "View/Reply Online" link in any message footer, it not only takes you to the message online, but opens the editor for you to reply. This creates a draft, which persists until you log out, even if you didn't type anything. To avoid that, be sure to hit the Discard button before browsing away.

I find this annoying, and made a suggestion in beta not to open the editor unless I ask for it, but the notion never got much traction.?

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 09:01 PM, RFI-EMI-GUY wrote:

I don't know what action created them. Is it a bug?

Probably not a bug.? Any time you start a topic or reply, then move off the page for any reason, a draft is created.? I do that now and then without even realizing it.? I occasionally have trouble with my internet and one gets created.? Could also be a temporary glitch at GIO that doesn't allow you to communicate for some reason.? Mark has programmed the site to do the best it can to make sure you don't lose a message in case of problems.

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While visiting some groups I subscribe to, but do not manage, I found that in one case there were 4 drafts created. I deleted them. I don't know what action created them. Is it a bug???

Added to the FAQ late this afternoon. #14

You might want to beef it up. I just put Mark's post from Duane.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 08:57 PM, Raphael Vowles wrote:

Nope.? Editing is disabled on beta, but I can still delete my own messages.

I'm dreadfully sorry. The crucial point is that it must be my own message.?
Apologies.?I did test it but on Beta and since I have no recent messages there, it wasn't a proper test.

With editing turned off, if you open your own message on the website, you can edit it with the "more" menu.

Again, I am very sorry to waste your time chasing this up.?

Frances

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Duane,

Mark just posted this on the API subgroup of beta.

Mark Fletcher wrote:
If you can convert the messages into an mbox format, I can import
them into your group, along with your users, like we do with Yahoo
groups. For that, I ask that you pre-pay for a year of premium
service for your group. Contact me off list if/when you're ready
to go ahead with that.

Yay!

This should be a great boon to those would-be transfer users who were stymied by their inability to invite or promote the transfer agent to their Yahoo Group.

Now all they need is the mbox's returned by Y!'s getmydata function and they can at least get their messages imported.

Maybe we should work this into the transfer related wiki pages.

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Thank you Duane for clarifying deleting ones OWN MESSAGES on beta.
Frances says it is disabled. It evidently is not disabled. Do you know Frances?

Hey Frances - where do you get this evidence??? Are you attempting to delete someone else's message?
If so you are missing the point and causing unhelpful expectations. I have just spent 3 hours hunting down your assertions. Duh.

Stan,

But I see a variety, including the initial welcome message to
the group after migration from Yahoo, the first special message sent
since the migration, and the most recent special message.

That's intriguing.

I understand what Bruce is saying about the Bounce history being absent activity from other groups, but I'm not sure that applies to the Most Recent Successful Delivery box. And if it does, then those intervening messages in other groups should make the content go blank, not refer to an older post in this group.

The Message Selection option (Membership tab, Advanced Preferences) comes to mind, but my understanding is that Special Notices are supposed to bypass that. Also, I suspect very few members have even noticed that, much less used it.

Could they have been on No Email part of the time?

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Gerald,

Maybe I am missing something, but I don't understand why there aren't
many complaints about moderated messages being edited without
notifying the OP.

For Y!Group refugees that's par for the course.

On the other hand, Y!G does put fields in the message header to reveal approval and edit. I suggested in beta that Groups.io do likewise but the idea wasn't liked by owners who were afraid it would cause members to single out particular mods for their ire. It wasn't acted on.

On the other hand, I very much appreciate the moderator's notes on
this group when moderation has included editing.

I got into that habit long ago, at the example of a more senior mod. And I generally approve of transparency. So, "you're welcome".

Shal
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 06:54 PM, E Casterline wrote:

definitely weird at first having the sub-group interface look so much like the main group interface.

Of course, the interface will look the same but you can add a distinctive photo for each group.

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 06:57 PM, Su wrote:

1. Is there any way to copy an existing Calendar entry and use that to create a new one? The specific case I'm looking at has a 4-day event that is presented twice a day. I've created the events for the earlier time and would like to duplicate that and change the start / end times for the second set of presentations.

Su -- I wish.

What I do is open the "template event" in one browser tab and cut-and-paste the contents of each field manually into the "new event" dialog in another browser tab, changing things as necessary. It is burdensome, and hopefully someone smarter than me has come up with a better way.

2. If I set a reminder for the event, will it be sent before each day? (I ended up having to create an event that repeats for the 4 days. With a reminder say 5 days before the event, will it send one 5 days before the first day, then 5 days before the second day, and so forth?)

I believe so, but have not actually tested this for a recurring event.

3. Is there any provision to attach a flyer or other image to a calendar event?

Not really. You can embed an <img> tag for a photo hosted on another site and have it show up in the Event Description, but if the photo is subsequently moved or deleted a broken link will show instead. The process is kinda weird and unreliable, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/31532132#16547?for details. I don't know if it would work for a PDF or any other data type. If you try it, please report back on what you find out.

Bruce

Nancy,

Getting nervous as I have a subgroup to come over as well.

If neither the subgroup nor the Yahoo Group it is to come from are involved in other transfers at the moment then it should be safe to run this transfer concurrently with the one you're running now, even if that's to the primary group of the subgroup.

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 05:44 PM, E Casterline wrote:

it instead shows a picklist of people in the main group who I can choose from to add to the subgroup

If you go through your membership list on your main group a page at a time, you'll notice that some people have a check mark for Group A, some for Group B, and possibly some for both.? It will depend on which YG they were members of.

And yes, on the subgroup it only shows people that are members of the main group, but not that subgroup.? The ones that are actually members of the subgroup will be shown on the Members page for that subgroup.

BTW Frances, this works the same way for a free group with subgroups.

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1. Is there any way to copy an existing Calendar entry and use that to create a new one? The specific case I'm looking at has a 4-day event that is presented twice a day. I've created the events for the earlier time and would like to duplicate that and change the start / end times for the second set of presentations.

2. If I set a reminder for the event, will it be sent before each day? (I ended up having to create an event that repeats for the 4 days. With a reminder say 5 days before the event, will it send one 5 days before the first day, then 5 days before the second day, and so forth?)

3. Is there any provision to attach a flyer or other image to a calendar event?

Thanks,
Su

Thanks Shal! Yes, definitely weird at first having the sub-group interface look so much like the main group interface. It has finally clicked in my brain.