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Rob,

My group has a foodbank collection last saturday in each month. Is
there any way of setting that up in Calendar?

Alas, no.

If you go to a last Saturday of a month that has five and create the event there you can select:

Repeats: Monthly
Repeats Every: 1 months
Repeat by day of the week

Then the Repeat summary says "Monthly on the Fifth Saturday", and it means exactly that.

You could also set up a repeating event for the Fourth Saturday, but in months that have a fifth you'd have to manually delete the instance on the fourth.

Shal


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Hah, that did help, thank you! I conceptually already understood the relationships between the main group and subgroups, and how membership in the main group is required first, but the interface was really confusing to me... It has now clicked in my mind. For example, in a subgroup, even though it's called "Direct Add" it's quite unlike the "Direct Add" in the main group... it instead shows a picklist of people in the main group who I can choose from to add to the subgroup. And where it says "Directly add members of the parent group to this subgroup" I can interpret that to mean "Here are the people in your main group to pick from to add to this sub-group, 'cause they have to be in your main group first -- if you want to add someone else, add them to the main group first and they'll pop up here, or go to admin/subgroups and manage their sub-group memberships there, and everyone will be happy!" not "The system will automatically add members of the parent group to this subgroup". Granted, my version is way too wordy. :)

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 05:59 PM, E Casterline wrote:

I'm in the subgroup (let's call it subgroup A). The people listed in subgroup A in the "Direct Add" section are already in the Main group (I spot-checked) and in subgroup B (also spot-checked) -- and I don't want to add them to subgroup A -- they mysteriously appeared in the "Direct Add" section of subgroup A during the transfer.

If it doesn't automatically add people in the parent group to the subgroup, why does it say "Directly add members of the parent group to this subgroup" at the top?

Is it as simple as giving you the option of adding people who aren't part of subgroup A already? These are people who are in your main group and the system might be saying, hey, want to add these?

I am not sure if there is an option to clear the direct add box since I have never managed a Premium group.

Frances
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Edith,

2. Is there a way to clear all these emails out of the "Direct Add" so
that it's blank ...

No. From the subgroup's point of view those are the only people eligible to be added.

and I can directly add people myself?

Yes.

But you do it on the Direct Add page of the Primary group (because they must also be members of the primary group). On that page there are checkboxes for which subgroup(s) you want them to also be added to.

It seems a bid weird at first, but it is easy once you realize what's going on.

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 05:59 PM, E Casterline wrote:

The people listed in subgroup A in the "Direct Add" section are already in the Main group (I spot-checked) and in subgroup B (also spot-checked) -- and I don't want to add them to subgroup A -- they mysteriously appeared in the "Direct Add" section of subgroup A during the transfer. If it doesn't automatically add people in the parent group to the subgroup, why does it say "Directly add members of the parent group to this subgroup" at the top?

Because that's all you CAN do.

Let me see if I can walk you through it.

-- You did a transfer from a Yahoo group into subgroup A. During that transfer, every individual added to subgroup A was also added to the parent group.
-- Then you did a transfer from another Yahoo group into subgroup B. The same thing happened to the parent group as above.
-- So now the parent group contains all members that were in EITHER of the two originating groups. Follow me so far?

As for the pick-list, there is nothing mysterious about it. When you open up Direct Add in a subgroup, you are presented with a list of people in the parent group that you can add. This will be a long list, for reasons already stated. To add someone to the subgroup, you tick the checkbox next to his name and click the "Add Members" button.

You cannot add anyone to the subgroup who isn't on this list. If you want to do that, you have to add them to the parent group first. At that point they will appear on the list and you can add them to the subgroup, too.

If your parent group and its subgroups do not follow this kind of natural relationship, jumping through these hoops can be very burdensome. That's why we recommend people carefully read the "why use a subgroup" wiki entry I linked previously before they do their transfers, lest they end up having problems with member management.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

Bruce, I think you are misunderstanding my issue, sorry if I wasn't clear -- I super appreciate your taking the time to answer, so I hope you'll take another look. To try to clarify: I'm in the subgroup (let's call it subgroup A). The people listed in subgroup A in the "Direct Add" section are already in the Main group (I spot-checked) and in subgroup B (also spot-checked) -- and I don't want to add them to subgroup A -- they mysteriously appeared in the "Direct Add" section of subgroup A during the transfer.

If it doesn't automatically add people in the parent group to the subgroup, why does it say "Directly add members of the parent group to this subgroup" at the top?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 05:17 PM, CStevenson/Geotrees.Com wrote:

Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what's going on?

If we're talking about the "error while loading the content" problem, it's a bug in Yahoo Groups, not groups.io ... and it happens A LOT.

The answer is what Shal said (/g/GroupManagersForum/message/24570).

Keep trying, refreshing the page beforehand, or even try a different browser. Oh and by the way, you must be an Owner of the Yahoo group, or a Moderator with "promote" permissions. If you're not, find someone who is.

Good luck,
Bruce

There are 84 'Last Weekday of Month' each year (7x12) that can not be referenced, e.g. Last Friday of the Month
see "Calendar missing "Last" function for repeating events"

2018-06-25

We should bring it up again in 2020 on the beta (suggestion) group
and hopefully this oversight will be addressed...

Friday, November 22nd, 2019
4:08 PM, DC Time, First Try
4:33 PM, DC Time, Second Try
5:08 PM, DC Time, Third Try

(Responding to Doug Boulton's message to the group at 2:05 PM today)

I'm having the same problem, Doug, and await any explanation or correction that Groups.Io has to offer. Haven't seen anything on it so far.

Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what's going on?

Charles Stevenson
Northern virginia
anjinsan AT geotrees com

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:38 AM, Ann Wild wrote:

Is it possible to make the message titles live so that if you click in the title, it takes you down to the specific message within the digest itself?

Ann -- The Full Featured Digest does exactly that, if viewed using webmail in a browser. I cannot predict what might happen in an email client, but I suspect it could vary depending on the client [mail reader software] and its configuration. Perhaps if you tell us what client you are using someone here can help you with that.

Bruce

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 11:27 AM, Ann Wild wrote:

I think another way to solve this is to delete the member's membership and then Direct Add that person as a new member with the new email address. ? I think I have done this, and it worked.

Ann -- Good point...IF ownership of content (messages, photos, etc) is not an issue. If it's important to maintain ownership of content currently held under both email addresses the only good path forward is to merge them.

Regards,
Bruce

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:45 PM, Christina Ferrigno wrote:

Any ideas why this may be occurring?

As a member, you must be logged in with the account/email you used to send the message.? As an owner, you can delete any message.

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John, no Groups.io staff on this group. Just peer-to-peer help.

If you wish to suggest this, please do it on Beta when things calm down.?

I have to say that I have moved messages, and it works. As Bruce said, there are some downsides.?
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/24257

Here are the instructions for merging threads:?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads

And for splitting threads:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Split-Threads

Frances

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It is admitted that moving a post is a tedious thing.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to make it a simple process? Maybe, technically, it is quite a difficult development but I am sure it would be appreciated by many owners and moderators if there was a simple command/process to move posts.
PLEASE consider it soon.
Regards
John

Givens:

• I am a Owner of a group, I also set myself up as a user with one of my alternate email addresses.
• I have settings on the group to ALLOW members to edit/delete THEIR messages.

When try to edit/delete my messages (as a member, not owner) I cannot do so. When I log in as owner, of course I may. However, we have a member who was able to delete his message, this per the activity log.

Any ideas why this may be occurring? I anticipate questions from members about why they cannot edit their own messages.

Thanks!

Tina

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:31 PM, Art_in_NJ wrote:

my inclination is to just double-click on the desired group

You actually only need a single click.

That page used to catch me regularly, but I finally realized I could use the column on the right for Messages view.? Makes sense that you could do both since it's an overview.? Now all you need to do is teach your finger not to click on the group name. ;>)

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Mark just posted this on the API subgroup of beta.? Since it's not a group that many would pay attention to (52 members), I thought I should repost it here for clarification of some previous messages:

Thanks, Duane ...? That does the trick ... but since my groups (only 2) are already displayed on the screen of the overview page, my inclination is to just double-click on the desired group instead of going through the extra step of using the "Your Groups" drop-down.? Oh, well ...

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:32 PM, Edith Casterline wrote:

Questions:
1. I don't want the parent group members to be automatically added to the subgroups. Is this a setting I can turn on/off? If so, where/how?

Parent groups members are NOT automatically added to subgroups. The people already there now are those that were added via the transfer operation.

2. Is there a way to clear all these emails out of the "Direct Add" so that it's blank and I can directly add people myself? (Perhaps that'll be fixed by question 1...)

No.

All members of a subgroup must be members of the parent group, too. As a corollary to this, there is no way to Direct Add someone from outside your group directly into a subgroup. You have to Direct Add them to the parent group first...after that's completed, you can then Direct Add them to the subgroup.?

You can, however, Invite someone directly to a subgroup. When that person accepts the invitation, he will automatically be added to BOTH the primary group and the subgroup.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup

Bruce