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Two questions about new members joining

We’ve just been transferred and have two questions regarding new members joining.

We have two different applications. The first occurs when they click join (all members must be approved; this is a closed, private all-moderated group). On Yahoo a box pops up asking why they want to join. We use it to screen and accept or reject members. We want that box.  The second application contains several questions they must send in. We want to that to go to them automatically after we approve them as members. 

In addition we have about 6 welcome messages that have various purposes - guiding them around the forum, rules of the road, etc. We want those to also go out upon approval for membership - automatically.

Can you tell me if these things are possible and if they are, how would I go about setting up each one?

Thank you very much -
Susan B

Re: Growing my group

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Re: Only Daylight Time? #timezone

Gerald Boutin

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:38 PM, <eric.weiss@...> wrote:

When setting up my new account the timezones don't include DT and ST options. For example, Eastern (US) Time only lists EDT, but EDT ended several days ago. For repeating events or for events created on one side the DT/ST switch that occur on the other side, this can cause problem.

So I can use CDT, but then when we actually go back to DT, I'll have to change to EDT.?

I've never seen a time zone list that doesn't take care of DT and ST.

Eric,

I also find the timezone naming confusing.

However, it does seem to work if you just ignore where it says DT and the UTC offset. At least, mine says UTC-3 ADT and yet it is displaying my correct time now.

I think it may be that the intention of the label was to identify the timezone and whether or not daylight savings? is used for that timezone. Either that or the labels were supposed to change to reflect when DST ended, but that didn't happen.

I assume from your post that you are in Eastern timezone. Set your choice to Eastern Time. While it says something about EDT, you can check and see that your display time is actually correct. With the change to EDT in the spring, you won't have to change your preference.
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Re: Member Switchover Timing

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Gilbert,
Thanks for your information. I created my groups at Groups.io with a different email address, but then added my Yahoo email that I used to create the Yahoo groups I am transferring. Since I read your advice, I removed the Yahoo owner email so it will get transferred back here with my group members. Nostalgia counts for something.?

Growing my group

Fabien

#22564

Hello everyone,
I have my own group on groups.io, and I’m trying to grow it, so more people will join. What are some ideas that I can do this? If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, feel free to reply.
Blessings,
Fabien

Only Daylight Time? #timezone

#22563

When setting up my new account the timezones don't include DT and ST options. For example, Eastern (US) Time only lists EDT, but EDT ended several days ago. For repeating events or for events created on one side the DT/ST switch that occur on the other side, this can cause problem.

So I can use CDT, but then when we actually go back to DT, I'll have to change to EDT.?

I've never seen a time zone list that doesn't take care of DT and ST.

Re: Files in transfer are assigned to what members?

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Ah gotcha.? She was the initial owner of the groups.io (started it), but I initiated the transfer, so that would make sense that they were assigned to her.? The members who uploaded those files are most likely not members anymore as we have a somewhat fluid membership.? ??

The transfer also seemed to indicate 150 files, but they aren't in the files section.? It looks like they are actually emails that are somehow saved as *.eml files within messages.? I assume those files are still readable in some way?

Is there any way to edit the timestamp on messages that were transferred over?? There are two messages that are somehow time stamped in 1999 (which is 2 years before our Yahoo Group started), but reading the content tells me it should be sometime in 2004.

Re: Files in transfer are assigned to what members?

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 09:07 PM, Linda Liao wrote:

We had a small number of files and photos transfer over (<200).? They mostly seem to be assigned to one of our moderators even though she didn't upload them and some even predate her joining the original Yahoo group.

For any files or photos where the original posting member didn't get transferred, ownership should be assigned automatically to the person that handled the transfer (or possibly the group owner?).? Photos can be reassigned to another member with some work, but not files.

Duane
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Re: how do add attachment to old messages #messages

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 08:36 PM, chandra ganga wrote:

I went to edit imported messages from yahoo where there was a missing attachment.

There is no add attachment tool when editing a message.

Duane
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Files in transfer are assigned to what members?

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Hi everyone.

Our transfer over from Yahoo Groups just finished!? Super excited, but I had a question.? We had a small number of files and photos transfer over (<200).? They mostly seem to be assigned to one of our moderators even though she didn't upload them and some even predate her joining the original Yahoo group.? It's not that big a deal to us, many of these files aren't relevant anymore and we will probably be cleaning a lot out.? But I was curious as to why this happened. Has anyone else encountered this?

Thanks!
Linda??

Re: Growing a group #promotion

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If your group is in the directory of publicly listed groups, check how much of your homepage description shows up in the directory. Make sure you have good keywords. Google retrieves the links to the group.

Frances
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Re: how do add attachment to old messages #messages

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I just looked at very early messages in my travel group - it had been transferred from Yahoo several years ago. No toolbar.
You can edit the message - open a message and use the hamburger menu to get a few options including Edit Message.

However there is an associated URL for each - the number in the top right. Could you rig something up by putting something in Files or Databases with a link to the right post?

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how do add attachment to old messages #messages

#22556

Hi
My group has? now been imported from yahoo.? I went to edit imported messages from yahoo where there was a missing attachment. However there was no paperclip showing in the edit message editor that i could see .(there is one for new messages) . How can I add attachments to old messages?
thanks

Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer

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I cannot find the place to pay for the accelerated transfer and I have NOT revived the response to the invite I sent 2 weeks ago Sunday?? everything seems yo have died?

Re: How can I keep messages from hiding email address information after @

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There is a setting: Admin->Settings->Settings Tab->Privacy Section->Hide Email Addresses in Archives
which can be set to “Do not mask email addresses in the archives.” or “Mask all email addresses in the web archives.”

When it is set to the “Mask” setting, when viewing the messages in the archive the messages show up like your example.  When it is set to “Do not mask”,
addresses show unmodified.

However, the setting does not affect how the message is sent out in email messages.  It only affects how things look in the Archives, ie. when you look at the email messages on the groups.io website (at /g/yourgroup/messages or  )

I’m not aware of a setting that enables/disables the displaying of email addresses in the actual emails sent to members from your group.

Gilbert

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On Nov 5, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Reda Sheinberg via Groups.Io <rjsheinberg@...> wrote:

       Is there any way of  allowing email addresses such as  name@... to be displayed in email body?     

Example below:  

 Also on this page is the name of DDA's Constituent Services contact:     Anthony.Jackson@...   You should also send an email about your issue directly to him.  
              DDA's Statewide Self-Direction Coordinator should also be emailed:  
natoya.mitchell@...    or you can just cc her on the email you send to Anthony Jackson.

Re: Yahoo Group Import Question

#22553

I recall Mark commenting how PGO is going to do it. Surely the process is not going to be very easy. Mark has invested in GIO heavily and he is not going to idly watch all the work go down the tube. Looks like after Dec 14, the future financial sustainability of GIO is going to be based on subscription. All the back end operation costs a lot of money and it cannot be sustained without sufficient income.

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:44 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Bill -- This isn't going to make me very popular, but I for one hope this doesn't come to pass.

The existing transfer process at least involves some semblance of consent from someone in a position of authority in the originating group. If anyone with an email address and this software can subscribe?for a day and immediately clone a group here in , this raises issues both ethical and legal. In fact, it bears a strong resemblance to DVD or software pirating.

As someone fully vested in the future of this platform, I do not want to see ?get embroiled in some sort of court battle regarding group/content ownership. To the casual observer, that may seem unlikely -- but it only has to happen once. And if it does, we will ALL be affected.

My $0.02,
Bruce

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Re: Yahoo Group Import Question

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I am an owner of several YG and am also blocked from promoting new or existing members to moderators????

On 11/5/2019 4:06 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

That's unfortunate, but let's be totally honest...if you're neither the Owner nor have his cooperation, then this Yahoo group is simply not yours to transfer.?

There is nothing keeping you from creating a parallel group and inviting people over, or even uploading the content. You just won't be able to use the Easy Group Transfer process to do it.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Member Switchover Timing

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Awwww! I assumed the owners date would have been preserved, since we had to create the group.

Thanks for the info - had I known what to ask on October 18……

Diane

On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Gilbert Coville <gilbert-groups@...> wrote:

When I migrated my Yahoo group over, I did not allow new members to join the new group.  When the migration finished, I received a summary email explaining how many messages, files, photos, members were transferred, including a list of members that were not transferred.  There was only one address not transferred, mine, because it was already subscribed.

All the join dates of the members were preserved, but mine was not.  It’s a tiny bit of nostalgia lost, but not too bad.

If I were to do it over, I would have used a separate email address as the owner of the groups.io group, let all the members transfer in, then merged my new account into my old account to retain my join date.

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How can I keep messages from hiding email address information after @

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? ? ? ?Is there any way of? allowing email addresses such as? name@... to be displayed in email body?? ? ?

Example below:??

?Also on this page is the name of DDA's Constituent Services contact:? ? ?Anthony.Jackson@...? ?You should also send an email about your issue directly to him.??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? DDA's Statewide Self-Direction Coordinator should also be emailed:??
natoya.mitchell@...? ? or you can just cc her on the email you send to Anthony Jackson.

Re: Question about paying for premium

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I used my credit card (not Pay Pal) to pay for both Premium and the priority fee. ?Never went through Stripe.

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